Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi there Gina, Welcome to the group! If there's anything want to know while making the change - jus ask! Cheers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Mike, Thanks bunches... what a nice personal welcome! I appreciate it very much. I have alot to learn as this is a radical change!!! I am looking forward to reading everyones posts! GinaMichael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: Hi there Gina, Welcome to the group! If there's anything want to know while making the change - jus ask! Cheers Mike Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Don't let anyone put you off, it's all very easy really. You can get good introductory books and information both at the Viva! website and at the Vegan Society website. Cheers M On Behalf Of Michael Benis04 April 2006 16:16 Subject: RE: Questionnaire Answers Hi there Gina, Welcome to the group! If there's anything want to know while making the change - jus ask! Cheers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Michael, I have ordered a bazillion Vegan cookbooks etc... and Vegan living books and have joined a plethora of newsletters etc. It is a major change in lifestyle... and I am realizing just how many things in my house are the products of cruelty to animals.. its a bit overwhelming ....Right now I am determined to be as cruelty free as possible.. but I am having mixed feelings about some of it... I will no longer be a leather consumer but do I have the strength to rip the all leather seats out of my new car... sadly, no... or to throw away an expensive leather purse that was given to me several years ago? How long have you been Vegan? Do you or have you gone through any similar issues? Becoming a teetotaler and tossing out everything in my house that has come from cruelty to animals is not the easiest thing to do... Are there any other Vegans who have just recently "converted" who are also trying to reconcile what is right with what you practically have at the time.. will I buy any more leather? Certainly not.. but do you toss expensive shoes? Ugggh? Gina Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: Don't let anyone put you off, it's all very easy really. You can get good introductory books and information both at the Viva! website and at the Vegan Society website. Cheers M On Behalf Of Michael Benis04 April 2006 16:16 Subject: RE: Questionnaire Answers Hi there Gina, Welcome to the group! If there's anything want to know while making the change - jus ask! Cheers Mike Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Gina, Fraggle is our font of all knowledge moderator, if he dont know it it aint happenin! I think that there are a few of us tied into a family an the rat race living vicariously through him! I have been vegan for about 15 years or so, prolly more I forget that I am 45 this year, still think I am half that! My wife is an omnivore and my two daughters 9 & 12 are vegetarian from birth. They do tend to give her a hard time when she eats an animal. The Valley Vegan.............. Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Isn't Fraggle on Vegan Chat, or is he on here too? Cheers M On Behalf Of peter hurd04 April 2006 21:50 Subject: Re: Questionnaire Answers Hi Gina, Fraggle is our font of all knowledge moderator, if he dont know it it aint happenin! I think that there are a few of us tied into a family an the rat race living vicariously through him! I have been vegan for about 15 years or so, prolly more I forget that I am 45 this year, still think I am half that! My wife is an omnivore and my two daughters 9 & 12 are vegetarian from birth. They do tend to give her a hard time when she eats an animal. The Valley Vegan.............. Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 He`s omnipresent! The Valley Vegan...............Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: Isn't Fraggle on Vegan Chat, or is he on here too? Cheers M On Behalf Of peter hurd04 April 2006 21:50 Subject: Re: Questionnaire Answers Hi Gina, Fraggle is our font of all knowledge moderator, if he dont know it it aint happenin! I think that there are a few of us tied into a family an the rat race living vicariously through him! I have been vegan for about 15 years or so, prolly more I forget that I am 45 this year, still think I am half that! My wife is an omnivore and my two daughters 9 & 12 are vegetarian from birth. They do tend to give her a hard time when she eats an animal. The Valley Vegan.............. Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Peter, Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes? Also, my daughter has been really playing the major debator with me about the whole vegan issue... stating that we are omnivorous biologically... and that God intended us to eat meat via Genesis... have to go back and refresh on that one to pose a good argument. She also says what now.. the cats will have to be vegan too and isn't that animal cruelty to force an obviously carnivorous animal to be vegan (god help me!). The joys of having a teenage girl in your midst! I am determined to do this... regardless of how difficult it is.. it is the only way I can live with myself. What prompted you to become Vegan? Ginapeter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: He`s omnipresent! The Valley Vegan...............Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: Isn't Fraggle on Vegan Chat, or is he on here too? Cheers M On Behalf Of peter hurd04 April 2006 21:50 Subject: Re: Questionnaire Answers Hi Gina, Fraggle is our font of all knowledge moderator, if he dont know it it aint happenin! I think that there are a few of us tied into a family an the rat race living vicariously through him! I have been vegan for about 15 years or so, prolly more I forget that I am 45 this year, still think I am half that! My wife is an omnivore and my two daughters 9 & 12 are vegetarian from birth. They do tend to give her a hard time when she eats an animal. The Valley Vegan.............. Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:35, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes? Fraggle is not a member of - I think he's on one or two of the other vegan groups. FYI the two moderators of are mavreela, who is in semi- retirement, and my (not very) humble self, who in a rash moment agreed to help out when mavreela wanted to take a back seat. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Paul, Thank you for answering the question.. and its very nice to meet you! GinaPaul Russell <prussell wrote: On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:35, Regina Fay Brook wrote:> Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes?Fraggle is not a member of - I think he's on one or two of the other vegan groups.FYI the two moderators of are mavreela, who is in semi- retirement, and my (not very) humble self, who in a rash moment agreed to help out when mavreela wanted to take a back seat.Paul Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Gina, and welcome to the group. It's normally rather quiet around here but occasionally one of two of us stir from our slumbers and a brief debate ensues. Feel free to ask anything you like about veganism (or anything else) and we'll do our best to help. Paul On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:59, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > Hi Paul, > Thank you for answering the question.. and its very nice to meet you! > Gina > > Paul Russell <prussell wrote: > On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:35, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > > > Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes? > > Fraggle is not a member of - I think he's on one or two of > the other vegan groups. > > FYI the two moderators of are mavreela, who is in semi- > retirement, and my (not very) humble self, who in a rash moment > agreed to help out when mavreela wanted to take a back seat. > > Paul > > > > Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC > and save big. > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Paul, Thanks so much.. the welcome has been really warm and nice. I think my biggest worry is offending someone or sending someone on a rampage! Where in the UK are you and where are the best places to buy Vegan foods? I know about Holland and Barrett.. but they don't seem to have much outside of nuts and some supplements and such... at least the one at Trafford Centre in Manchester seems rather small. I don't know where there are good vegan healthfood stores or if Tesco, Sainsbury's or any of the larger chains carry vegan type foods... where do you buy most of your foods? Thank you all for your patience with my incessant questioning... GinaPaul Russell <prussell wrote: Hi Gina, and welcome to the group.It's normally rather quiet around here but occasionally one of two of us stir from our slumbers and a brief debate ensues.Feel free to ask anything you like about veganism (or anything else) and we'll do our best to help.PaulOn 4 Apr 2006, at 22:59, Regina Fay Brook wrote:> Hi Paul,> Thank you for answering the question.. and its very nice to meet you!> Gina>> Paul Russell <prussell wrote:> On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:35, Regina Fay Brook wrote:>> > Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes?>> Fraggle is not a member of - I think he's on one or two of> the other vegan groups.>> FYI the two moderators of are mavreela, who is in semi-> retirement, and my (not very) humble self, who in a rash moment> agreed to help out when mavreela wanted to take a back seat.>> Paul>>>> Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN>>>>>>>> New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC > and save big.>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.> ---------------------------> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>> Un: send a blank message to - > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Gina, Every vegan has a different story and a different view on veganism. Me I have two cats, neither will eat vegan cat food, and to be frank, I dont think I should be forcing my beliefs on them anyway. I know catfood aint their natural diet, but they are carnivours, albiet tamed ones. The Valley Vegan............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Peter, Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes? Also, my daughter has been really playing the major debator with me about the whole vegan issue... stating that we are omnivorous biologically... and that God intended us to eat meat via Genesis... have to go back and refresh on that one to pose a good argument. She also says what now.. the cats will have to be vegan too and isn't that animal cruelty to force an obviously carnivorous animal to be vegan (god help me!). The joys of having a teenage girl in your midst! I am determined to do this... regardless of how difficult it is.. it is the only way I can live with myself. What prompted you to become Vegan? Ginapeter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: He`s omnipresent! The Valley Vegan...............Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: Isn't Fraggle on Vegan Chat, or is he on here too? Cheers M On Behalf Of peter hurd04 April 2006 21:50 Subject: Re: Questionnaire Answers Hi Gina, Fraggle is our font of all knowledge moderator, if he dont know it it aint happenin! I think that there are a few of us tied into a family an the rat race living vicariously through him! I have been vegan for about 15 years or so, prolly more I forget that I am 45 this year, still think I am half that! My wife is an omnivore and my two daughters 9 & 12 are vegetarian from birth. They do tend to give her a hard time when she eats an animal. The Valley Vegan.............. Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Gina, sorry forgot fraggle is on , getting my sites mixed up. I would recommend you check it out. The Valley Vegan.................Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Peter, Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes? Also, my daughter has been really playing the major debator with me about the whole vegan issue... stating that we are omnivorous biologically... and that God intended us to eat meat via Genesis... have to go back and refresh on that one to pose a good argument. She also says what now.. the cats will have to be vegan too and isn't that animal cruelty to force an obviously carnivorous animal to be vegan (god help me!). The joys of having a teenage girl in your midst! I am determined to do this... regardless of how difficult it is.. it is the only way I can live with myself. What prompted you to become Vegan? Ginapeter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: He`s omnipresent! The Valley Vegan...............Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: Isn't Fraggle on Vegan Chat, or is he on here too? Cheers M On Behalf Of peter hurd04 April 2006 21:50 Subject: Re: Questionnaire Answers Hi Gina, Fraggle is our font of all knowledge moderator, if he dont know it it aint happenin! I think that there are a few of us tied into a family an the rat race living vicariously through him! I have been vegan for about 15 years or so, prolly more I forget that I am 45 this year, still think I am half that! My wife is an omnivore and my two daughters 9 & 12 are vegetarian from birth. They do tend to give her a hard time when she eats an animal. The Valley Vegan.............. Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Peter H Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Peter, Thanks bunches I will definitely take a look.. in response to the cats.. my cats will eat near enough anything.. I also have 3 rats ... they are supposed to be my sons but secretly they are mine The cats would love to eat them... but behave when we are present so they are just not left alone together. Y'all have all just been so friendly... and its been really refreshing, almost like real time chat this evening.. as I peruse through different sites online. I really appreciate the company of all of you! Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Gina, sorry forgot fraggle is on , getting my sites mixed up. I would recommend you check it out. The Valley Vegan.................Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Peter, Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes? Also, my daughter has been really playing the major debator with me about the whole vegan issue... stating that we are omnivorous biologically... and that God intended us to eat meat via Genesis... have to go back and refresh on that one to pose a good argument. She also says what now.. the cats will have to be vegan too and isn't that animal cruelty to force an obviously carnivorous animal to be vegan (god help me!). The joys of having a teenage girl in your midst! I am determined to do this... regardless of how difficult it is.. it is the only way I can live with myself. What prompted you to become Vegan? Ginapeter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: He`s omnipresent! The Valley Vegan...............Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: Isn't Fraggle on Vegan Chat, or is he on here too? Cheers M On Behalf Of peter hurd04 April 2006 21:50 Subject: Re: Questionnaire Answers Hi Gina, Fraggle is our font of all knowledge moderator, if he dont know it it aint happenin! I think that there are a few of us tied into a family an the rat race living vicariously through him! I have been vegan for about 15 years or so, prolly more I forget that I am 45 this year, still think I am half that! My wife is an omnivore and my two daughters 9 & 12 are vegetarian from birth. They do tend to give her a hard time when she eats an animal. The Valley Vegan.............. Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks so much for the warm welcome. I like the UK so far... some things better than the US and vice versa. What is Fraggle??? How long have you been Vegan? Gina peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Hi Gina, welcome , hope yo enjoy your stay. How are you enjoying the 51st state? Ask or bring up any subject, just keep an eye out for the Fraggle! The Valley Vegan...............Regina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? Gina2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 373/ Do you know many vegans in real life? Only myself4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 2 days *smile* 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? Saw some animal slaughtering videos on PETA's website... they made me cry and I want nothing to do with that kind of cruelty. I decided on becoming Vegan because even the cruelty inflicted on dairy cows and egg laying chickens and goats its just all more than I can bear and I will not have anything to do with the demand for any of it again.=== Questions about your area ===6/ Whereabouts do you live? Manchester7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I don't know=== Questions for fun ===8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? kidney beans and lentils9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I am American but living in the UK.. so I would be split on the USA and England.10/ What types of film do you like? Thrillers, comedies, mysteries...11/ What was the last meal you ate? lentils and rice for lunch12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===13/ How did you find out about this list? searched for vegan groups online and this one popped up=== Other comments ===14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. I think this just about covers it :)Thank you for completing a profile.BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Peter H Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Peter H Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi Gina - Something that will save you a lot of time and effort is to get hold of the Vegan Society's " Animal Free Shopper " . This is an incredibly useful pocket-sized book which lists all known vegan products both by brand and also by supermarket. You can get the printed edition via mail order form the Vegan Society (it's about 5 pounds) and there is now also a free online version too, at www.animalfreeshopper.com (you have to register online the first time you use it, but it's free). Once you get to know which products are vegan life gets a lot easier and you won't always be consulting your little book, but it's indispensable when veganism is still new to you (and still very useful occasionally even when you're an " old timer " ;-)). Paul On 4 Apr 2006, at 23:16, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > Paul, > Thanks so much.. the welcome has been really warm and nice. I think > my biggest worry is offending someone or sending someone on a > rampage! Where in the UK are you and where are the best places to > buy Vegan foods? I know about Holland and Barrett.. but they don't > seem to have much outside of nuts and some supplements and such... > at least the one at Trafford Centre in Manchester seems rather > small. I don't know where there are good vegan healthfood stores or > if Tesco, Sainsbury's or any of the larger chains carry vegan type > foods... where do you buy most of your foods? > Thank you all for your patience with my incessant questioning... > Gina > > Paul Russell <prussell wrote: > Hi Gina, and welcome to the group. > > It's normally rather quiet around here but occasionally one of two of > us stir from our slumbers and a brief debate ensues. > > Feel free to ask anything you like about veganism (or anything else) > and we'll do our best to help. > > Paul > > On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:59, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > > > Hi Paul, > > Thank you for answering the question.. and its very nice to meet > you! > > Gina > > > > Paul Russell <prussell wrote: > > On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:35, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > > > > > Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes? > > > > Fraggle is not a member of - I think he's on one or two of > > the other vegan groups. > > > > FYI the two moderators of are mavreela, who is in semi- > > retirement, and my (not very) humble self, who in a rash moment > > agreed to help out when mavreela wanted to take a back seat. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC > > and save big. > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > > --------------------------- > > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > > Un: send a blank message to - > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Paul, Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have gone on the site now... you are wonderful! This is just what I needed! I'm glad to know it gets easier! Thank goodness GinaPaul Russell <prussell wrote: Hi Gina -Something that will save you a lot of time and effort is to get hold of the Vegan Society's "Animal Free Shopper". This is an incredibly useful pocket-sized book which lists all known vegan products both by brand and also by supermarket. You can get the printed edition via mail order form the Vegan Society (it's about 5 pounds) and there is now also a free online version too, at www.animalfreeshopper.com (you have to register online the first time you use it, but it's free). Once you get to know which products are vegan life gets a lot easier and you won't always be consulting your little book, but it's indispensable when veganism is still new to you (and still very useful occasionally even when you're an "old timer" ;-)).PaulOn 4 Apr 2006, at 23:16, Regina Fay Brook wrote:> Paul,> Thanks so much.. the welcome has been really warm and nice. I think > my biggest worry is offending someone or sending someone on a > rampage! Where in the UK are you and where are the best places to > buy Vegan foods? I know about Holland and Barrett.. but they don't > seem to have much outside of nuts and some supplements and such... > at least the one at Trafford Centre in Manchester seems rather > small. I don't know where there are good vegan healthfood stores or > if Tesco, Sainsbury's or any of the larger chains carry vegan type > foods... where do you buy most of your foods?> Thank you all for your patience with my incessant questioning...> Gina>> Paul Russell <prussell wrote:> Hi Gina, and welcome to the group.>> It's normally rather quiet around here but occasionally one of two of> us stir from our slumbers and a brief debate ensues.>> Feel free to ask anything you like about veganism (or anything else)> and we'll do our best to help.>> Paul>> On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:59, Regina Fay Brook wrote:>> > Hi Paul,> > Thank you for answering the question.. and its very nice to meet > you!> > Gina> >> > Paul Russell <prussell wrote:> > On 4 Apr 2006, at 22:35, Regina Fay Brook wrote:> >> > > Is Fraggle... Michael? He is the moderator, yes?> >> > Fraggle is not a member of - I think he's on one or two of> > the other vegan groups.> >> > FYI the two moderators of are mavreela, who is in semi-> > retirement, and my (not very) humble self, who in a rash moment> > agreed to help out when mavreela wanted to take a back seat.> >> > Paul> >> >> >> > Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC> > and save big.> >> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> > there may be another side to the story you have not heard.> > ---------------------------> > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>> > Un: send a blank message to -> > > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hello Gina! Just wanted to say Hi and welcome to the group, from another 37 year old Vegan :-) I actually became Vegan in 1989 and well remember going through all of the questions you raise. Good news is, it gets easier!! I'm also the only Vegan in my house, with an omnivorous husband and daughter. The thing I found when I first became a Vegan is that everyone kind of smiled knowingly and thought that I would never stick to it... well, 17 years later and they are no longer smiling :-) Your daughter will stop giving you a hard time once she's kind of got used to the idea that you are not going to go back on your decision, she'll kind of accept it as part of you and it'll get 'boring' if you know what I mean. The other thing to remember is that what you are doing here is something to be really proud of... and you really only have to answer to yourself, no one else. You are doing more for animals and the planet through this decision than 99% of the rest of the world, so don't feel like you've got it wrong if you take a while to find your feet here. Good luck! :-) S-J xRegina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Stuart, I don't intend to buy anything else... are you the only vegan in your household? I am wondering how that goes when you have reluctant participants in the house. I have said that the meat in the house and all the animal products will be used (not by me) but once they are gone.. I will not buy or prepare anything else... my son has agreed but my daughter (who is 17) is grumbling. Saying.. we are supposed to eat meat.. quoting that we are omnivores.. quoting the Bible... you name it! She is the anti-vegan from Hades! My son watched a few of the videos on the PETA Site with me.. and has agreed to go vegan but wants to use what we have first so he can adjust to the idea... Just wondering how you made the conversion.. and would welcome any advice from anyone else. Also.. I went to Tesco and found Quorn products.. but they contain eggs and milk.... what products in the UK are vegan.. where can you buy them... any tips on local UK products... coming from the USA I am still acclimating to UK food choices in general and to switch to being vegan I am a bit at a loss as to how to substitute it all.. as the books I have ordered arrive I am sure that things will become a bit clearer. I am really grateful to have this group and I look forward to learning how to eat and live compassionately. Last night I was lying in bed.. thinking of all the things I had seen and read on PETA's site.. and feeling such shame at how we as humans could be so cruel... the world is truly becoming a horrific place and it is so sad and the true gravity of everything has begun to hit me. I am a Republican... here I think that would be called an ultra-conservative and I am at the age of 37 truly beginning to reevaluate my whole outlook on life... the world around me.. everything.. midlife crisis maybe? sans the porche, boob-job and a face-lift Gina Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hi S-J aka gushoneybungirl Thank you so much for that... I know its the right thing to do.. and right now as with anything new it is just super awkward. I have to learn how to eat all over again. Its really comforting to hear that it does get easier from someone who has gone through it. I know I wont be changing my mind on this... and if I ever begin to falter I will just go back and look at some of the video footage I saw... thinking about it after 2 days still brings tears to my eyes. I think it all just totally scared me too.. if a human being can be so cruel to something so helpless than they could easily hurt another person.... and is there truly a difference. I watched those videos and saw so much pain in the eyes of the animals.. okay I can't go on here... I am in tears again! I am just glad that there are other people out there who are or have felt the same way... and have successfully foregone all animal products in a world flooded with them. I really admire and respect you for having done it! Where do you live in the UK? I am in Manchester... Ginagushoneybungirl <gushoneybungirl wrote: Hello Gina! Just wanted to say Hi and welcome to the group, from another 37 year old Vegan :-) I actually became Vegan in 1989 and well remember going through all of the questions you raise. Good news is, it gets easier!! I'm also the only Vegan in my house, with an omnivorous husband and daughter. The thing I found when I first became a Vegan is that everyone kind of smiled knowingly and thought that I would never stick to it... well, 17 years later and they are no longer smiling :-) Your daughter will stop giving you a hard time once she's kind of got used to the idea that you are not going to go back on your decision, she'll kind of accept it as part of you and it'll get 'boring' if you know what I mean. The other thing to remember is that what you are doing here is something to be really proud of... and you really only have to answer to yourself, no one else. You are doing more for animals and the planet through this decision than 99% of the rest of the world, so don't feel like you've got it wrong if you take a while to find your feet here. Good luck! :-) S-J xRegina Fay Brook <ginafay wrote: Stuart, I don't intend to buy anything else... are you the only vegan in your household? I am wondering how that goes when you have reluctant participants in the house. I have said that the meat in the house and all the animal products will be used (not by me) but once they are gone.. I will not buy or prepare anything else... my son has agreed but my daughter (who is 17) is grumbling. Saying.. we are supposed to eat meat.. quoting that we are omnivores.. quoting the Bible... you name it! She is the anti-vegan from Hades! My son watched a few of the videos on the PETA Site with me.. and has agreed to go vegan but wants to use what we have first so he can adjust to the idea... Just wondering how you made the conversion.. and would welcome any advice from anyone else. Also.. I went to Tesco and found Quorn products.. but they contain eggs and milk.... what products in the UK are vegan.. where can you buy them... any tips on local UK products... coming from the USA I am still acclimating to UK food choices in general and to switch to being vegan I am a bit at a loss as to how to substitute it all.. as the books I have ordered arrive I am sure that things will become a bit clearer. I am really grateful to have this group and I look forward to learning how to eat and live compassionately. Last night I was lying in bed.. thinking of all the things I had seen and read on PETA's site.. and feeling such shame at how we as humans could be so cruel... the world is truly becoming a horrific place and it is so sad and the true gravity of everything has begun to hit me. I am a Republican... here I think that would be called an ultra-conservative and I am at the age of 37 truly beginning to reevaluate my whole outlook on life... the world around me.. everything.. midlife crisis maybe? sans the porche, boob-job and a face-lift Gina Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi Gina, Ah, the old hoary arguments against veganism. We are omnivorous biologically...yes, so that means we can survive on meat or on veg. Yes, it might be natural to eat meat, but it is natural to rape, murder and steal too - nature is cruel, that doesn't mean we have to follow her lead. It might say we have to eat meat in Genesis, but (non religious response) just because some bloke wrote something down a few thousand years ago doesn't make it true, or (religious response) the bible is God's knowledge filtered through man, who is fallible, and most definitely tailored to the period in which is was written. Wait until she comes across the 'animals are killed in harvesting crops anyway'. Or possibly the 'but you drive a car which kills animals/buy vegan food transported in vehicles which kill animals on the way' one. Or, my favourite, 'if we didn't eat animals there would be less of them in the world' argument. I wrote an article a while back going through the main arguments against veganism. I'll look it out for you if you are foolish enough to want to read something I've written. Alternatively, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 John, Yes, I would love to read your article... and debating the issues with my daughter at least gives me some practice in responses I will likely get from the rest of my family and friends! GinaJohn Davis <mcxg46 wrote: Hi Gina,Ah, the old hoary arguments against veganism.We are omnivorous biologically...yes, so that means we can survive on meator on veg. Yes, it might be natural to eat meat, but it is natural to rape,murder and steal too - nature is cruel, that doesn't mean we have to followher lead. It might say we have to eat meat in Genesis, but (non religiousresponse) just because some bloke wrote something down a few thousand yearsago doesn't make it true, or (religious response) the bible is God'sknowledge filtered through man, who is fallible, and most definitelytailored to the period in which is was written.Wait until she comes across the 'animals are killed in harvesting cropsanyway'. Or possibly the 'but you drive a car which kills animals/buy veganfood transported in vehicles which kill animals on the way' one. Or, myfavourite, 'if we didn't eat animals there would be less of them in theworld' argument.I wrote an article a while back going through the main arguments againstveganism. I'll look it out for you if you are foolish enough to want to readsomething I've written. Alternatively,John Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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