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Hello,

I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies out there,

Whats your dietary history? Mine is :

Pescatarian(fish eating vegetarian!) since the age of 13

Vegetarian ( still lacto- ovo) at 22 years

Vegetarian (only lacto) at age 27

Vegan .. yay!! age 29

I've dabbled in raw foodism and fruitarianism from age 33 to 37 years and

now I'm

a happily (ethical) vegan again which works best and is the most optimal

and ethical

for me, how about you?

Whats your dietary history?

 

thanks :)

 

Jo

 

 

 

 

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" Michael Benis " <michaelbenis

 

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:15 PM

RE: Awareness raising info request !

 

 

> and of course there's the Vegan Society at www.vegansociety.com

>

>

> On Behalf

Of

> Joanne

> 25 April 2006 12:37

>

> Re: Awareness raising info request !

>

> You can also look at www.notmilk.com

>

> Jo

>

>

>

>

> -

> " Michael Benis " <michaelbenis

>

> Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:34 AM

> RE: Awareness raising info request !

>

>

> > In addition to PETA's site, you can also find lots of information at

> > www.viva.org.uk

> >

> > Cheers

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> > On

> > Behalf

> Of

> > sparsafree

> > 24 April 2006 22:29

> >

> > Awareness raising info request !

> >

> > im getting increasingly interested in making the switch from being 75%

> > to total vegan. To help me in this can anybody suggest where i can get

> > (online) some good sources of info about what actually goes on the

> > diary industry. A while back i saw video of battery hen conditions at

> > Wegmans in the states and it had quite a effect on me. To be frank at

> > present i just dont largely know what goes on behind the eggs, milk,

> > etc thats in the stores. Any help would be appreciated. thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

> > there

> may

> > be another side to the story you have not heard.

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Mine is omni until about 22, though never eat fish, sheep, pigs or cheese and rarely eat cows. Then vegan ever since, ( now a sprightly 44 year old ). The Valley Vegan................Joanne <Kimberley1 wrote: Hello,I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies out there,Whats your dietary history? Mine is :Pescatarian(fish eating vegetarian!) since the age of 13Vegetarian ( still lacto- ovo) at 22 yearsVegetarian (only lacto) at age 27Vegan .. yay!! age 29I've dabbled in raw foodism and fruitarianism from age 33 to 37 years andnow I'ma happily (ethical) vegan again which works best and is the most optimaland ethicalfor me, how about you?Whats your dietary history?thanks :)Jo-----

Original Message -----"Michael Benis" Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:15 PMRE: Awareness raising info request !> and of course there's the Vegan Society at www.vegansociety.com>> > On BehalfOf> Joanne> 25 April 2006 12:37> > Re: Awareness raising info request !>> You can also look at www.notmilk.com>> Jo>>>>> -> "Michael Benis" > > Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:34 AM> RE: Awareness raising info request !>>> > In addition to PETA's site, you can also

find lots of information at> > www.viva.org.uk> >> > Cheers> >> > Mike> >> > > > On> > Behalf> Of> > sparsafree> > 24 April 2006 22:29> > > > Awareness raising info request !> >> > im getting increasingly interested in making the switch from being 75%> > to total vegan. To help me in this can anybody suggest where i can get> > (online) some good sources of info about what actually goes on the> > diary industry. A while back i saw video of battery hen conditions at> > Wegmans in the states and it had quite a effect on me. To be frank at> > present i just dont largely know what goes on behind the eggs, milk,> > etc thats in

the stores. Any help would be appreciated. thanks> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> > there> may> > be another side to the story you have not heard.> > ---------------------------> > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Guidelines: visit > > Un: send a blank message to> > - > >

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Hi Peter,

 

Yeah , I hardly ate cheese, - my father hated it and so my mother hardly bought it and I don't remember eating it when I was a child,

I remember thinking it looked and smelt digusting,- but we still had cowsmilk in the house, for tea and cereal, but I hated anything with cream,custard in etc and I never , ever liked eating meat!! - I can't believe I still ate fish for so long , ... yuk..

 

Jo

 

 

 

 

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peter hurd

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:38 PM

Re: Whats your dietary history?

 

Mine is omni until about 22, though never eat fish, sheep, pigs or cheese and rarely eat cows. Then vegan ever since, ( now a sprightly 44 year old ).

 

The Valley Vegan................Joanne <Kimberley1 wrote:

Hello,I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies out there,Whats your dietary history? Mine is :Pescatarian(fish eating vegetarian!) since the age of 13Vegetarian ( still lacto- ovo) at 22 yearsVegetarian (only lacto) at age 27Vegan .. yay!! age 29I've dabbled in raw foodism and fruitarianism from age 33 to 37 years andnow I'ma happily (ethical) vegan again which works best and is the most optimaland ethicalfor me, how about you?Whats your dietary history?thanks :)Jo-"Michael Benis" Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:15 PMRE: Awareness raising info request !> and of course there's the Vegan Society at www.vegansociety.com>> > On BehalfOf> Joanne> 25 April 2006 12:37> > Re: Awareness raising info request !>> You can also look at www.notmilk.com>> Jo>>>>> -> "Michael Benis" > > Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:34 AM> RE: Awareness raising info request !>>> > In addition to PETA's site, you can also find lots of information at> > www.viva.org.uk> >> > Cheers> >> > Mike> >> > > > On> > Behalf> Of> > sparsafree> > 24 April 2006 22:29> > > > Awareness raising info request !> >> > im getting increasingly interested in making the switch from being 75%> > to total vegan. To help me in this can anybody suggest where i can get> > (online) some good sources of info about what actually goes on the> > diary industry. A while back i saw video of battery hen conditions at> > Wegmans in the states and it had quite a effect on me. To be frank at> > present i just dont largely know what goes on behind the eggs, milk,> > etc thats in the stores. Any help would be appreciated. thanks> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> > there> may> > be another side to the story you have not heard.> > ---------------------------> > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Guidelines: visit > > Un: send a blank message to> > - > >

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Mine is: vegetarian (lacto-ovo) since the age of 5, then vegan since

the age of 16 when I read an article on the dairy industry.

 

 

, " Joanne " <Kimberley1 wrote:

>

> Hello,

> I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies

out there,

> Whats your dietary history? Mine is :

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In a message dated 26/04/2006 06:08:19 GMT Daylight Time, Kimberley1 writes:

Wow , such an overwhelming response! considering there is 290 or so membersof this list! (but alas what I expected!)

 

 

Perhaps some of us don't want to get into the "I'm more vegan than you" thing

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Wow , such an overwhelming response! considering there is 290 or so members

of this list! (but alas what I expected!)

 

Jo

 

 

 

 

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" gothcatz " <gothcatz

 

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:12 PM

Re: Whats your dietary history?

 

 

> Mine is: vegetarian (lacto-ovo) since the age of 5, then vegan since

> the age of 16 when I read an article on the dairy industry.

>

>

> , " Joanne " <Kimberley1 wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> > I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies

> out there,

> > Whats your dietary history? Mine is :

>

>

>

>

>

> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

> ---------------------------

> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

> Un: send a blank message to -

>

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I was strict vegetarian from 10-20 years old, carnivore from 20-22 years, strict vegetarian from 22-26 1/2 years and I'm now going the whole hog and being vegan (3 weeks so far!). I love animals but am also very concerned about the ethics/environmental issues too.

I put the blip in my vegetarian record down to a pre pre mid life crisis :)

 

 

"Joanne" <Kimberley1 To: Whats your dietary history?Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:34:44 +0100Hello,I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies out there,Whats your dietary history? Mine is :Pescatarian(fish eating vegetarian!) since the age of 13Vegetarian ( still lacto- ovo) at 22 yearsVegetarian (only lacto) at age 27Vegan .. yay!! age 29I've dabbled in raw foodism and fruitarianism from age 33 to 37 years andnow I'ma happily (ethical) vegan again which works best and is the most optimaland ethicalfor me, how about you?Whats your dietary history?thanks :)Jo-"Michael Benis" <michaelbenisTuesday, April 25, 2006 3:15 PMRE: Awareness raising info request !> and of course there's the Vegan Society at www.vegansociety.com>> > On BehalfOf> Joanne> 25 April 2006 12:37> > Re: Awareness raising info request !>> You can also look at www.notmilk.com>> Jo>>>>> -> "Michael Benis" <michaelbenis> > Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:34 AM> RE: Awareness raising info request !>>> > In addition to PETA's site, you can also find lots of information at> > www.viva.org.uk> >> > Cheers> >> > Mike> >> > > > On> > Behalf> Of> > sparsafree> > 24 April 2006 22:29> > > > Awareness raising info request !> >> > im getting increasingly interested in making the switch from being 75%> > to total vegan. To help me in this can anybody suggest where i can get> > (online) some good sources of info about what actually goes on the> > diary industry. A while back i saw video of battery hen conditions at> > Wegmans in the states and it had quite a effect on me. To be frank at> > present i just dont largely know what goes on behind the eggs, milk,> > etc thats in the stores. Any help would be appreciated. thanks> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> > there> may> > be another side to the story you have not heard.> > ---------------------------> > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>> > Un: send a blank message to> > - > >

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Hi,

 

290 members eh? Blimey. But I wonder how many of those email addresses are

still valid, and of those that are, how many actually read the posts?

 

Personally, judging from emails, I'd always thought there were perhaps 20 or

so of us here.

 

Oh, and my dietary history...meat-eater for 20 years, vegetarian for 10,

vegan for 3. Give or take. Why so long a meat-eater? Because whilst I knew

it caused suffering, I felt that there was so much suffering in the world

that nothing I did or didn't do would make a difference, so wasn't worth

doing. Then why so long a vegetarian? Because I hadn't considered that

animals might have been suffering to give me their produce.

 

John

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" Joanne " <Kimberley1

 

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:08 AM

Re: Re: Whats your dietary history?

 

 

> Wow , such an overwhelming response! considering there is 290 or so

members

> of this list! (but alas what I expected!)

>

> Jo

>

>

>

>

> -

> " gothcatz " <gothcatz

>

> Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:12 PM

> Re: Whats your dietary history?

>

>

> > Mine is: vegetarian (lacto-ovo) since the age of 5, then vegan since

> > the age of 16 when I read an article on the dairy industry.

> >

> >

> > , " Joanne " <Kimberley1 wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > > I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies

> > out there,

> > > Whats your dietary history? Mine is :

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

> > there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

> > ---------------------------

> > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

> > Un: send a blank message to -

> >

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Hiya and welcome to the group,- there are many friendly, helpful vegans on this group that will help you

if you have any questions ( although the group has been pretty quiet recently)

 

Jo

 

 

 

 

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Jennifer Dunleavy

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:52 AM

RE: Whats your dietary history?

 

 

I was strict vegetarian from 10-20 years old, carnivore from 20-22 years, strict vegetarian from 22-26 1/2 years and I'm now going the whole hog and being vegan (3 weeks so far!). I love animals but am also very concerned about the ethics/environmental issues too.

I put the blip in my vegetarian record down to a pre pre mid life crisis :)

 

 

"Joanne" <Kimberley1 To: Whats your dietary history?Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:34:44 +0100Hello,I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies out there,Whats your dietary history? Mine is :Pescatarian(fish eating vegetarian!) since the age of 13Vegetarian ( still lacto- ovo) at 22 yearsVegetarian (only lacto) at age 27Vegan .. yay!! age 29I've dabbled in raw foodism and fruitarianism from age 33 to 37 years andnow I'ma happily (ethical) vegan again which works best and is the most optimaland ethicalfor me, how about you?Whats your dietary history?thanks :)Jo-"Michael Benis" <michaelbenisTuesday, April 25, 2006 3:15 PMRE: Awareness raising info request !> and of course there's the Vegan Society at www.vegansociety.com>> > On BehalfOf> Joanne> 25 April 2006 12:37> > Re: Awareness raising info request !>> You can also look at www.notmilk.com>> Jo>>>>> -> "Michael Benis" <michaelbenis> > Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:34 AM> RE: Awareness raising info request !>>> > In addition to PETA's site, you can also find lots of information at> > www.viva.org.uk> >> > Cheers> >> > Mike> >> > > > On> > Behalf> Of> > sparsafree> > 24 April 2006 22:29> > > > Awareness raising info request !> >> > im getting increasingly interested in making the switch from being 75%> > to total vegan. To help me in this can anybody suggest where i can get> > (online) some good sources of info about what actually goes on the> > diary industry. A while back i saw video of battery hen conditions at> > Wegmans in the states and it had quite a effect on me. To be frank at> > present i just dont largely know what goes on behind the eggs, milk,> > etc thats in the stores. Any help would be appreciated. thanks> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> > there> may> > be another side to the story you have not heard.> > ---------------------------> > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>> > Un: send a blank message to> > - > >

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Well, I was omni for 10-11 years although I wasn't overly keen on most meat.

Went veggie at 11 and vegan at 13 but that only lasted for 2 years! Then I

went back to veggie(though I didn't drink dairy and rarely ate eggs but I

still consumed them when they were hidden as ingredients). Then I went vegan

at 30- just because I thought about it again and also because I met some

other vegans and realised it was easily possible. Wish I done it sooner..

Nadine

 

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:42 AM

Re: Re: Whats your dietary history?

 

 

> Hi,

>

> 290 members eh? Blimey. But I wonder how many of those email addresses are

> still valid, and of those that are, how many actually read the posts?

>

> Personally, judging from emails, I'd always thought there were perhaps 20

> or

> so of us here.

>

> Oh, and my dietary history...meat-eater for 20 years, vegetarian for 10,

> vegan for 3. Give or take. Why so long a meat-eater? Because whilst I knew

> it caused suffering, I felt that there was so much suffering in the world

> that nothing I did or didn't do would make a difference, so wasn't worth

> doing. Then why so long a vegetarian? Because I hadn't considered that

> animals might have been suffering to give me their produce.

>

> John

> -

> " Joanne " <Kimberley1

>

> Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:08 AM

> Re: Re: Whats your dietary history?

>

>

>> Wow , such an overwhelming response! considering there is 290 or so

> members

>> of this list! (but alas what I expected!)

>>

>> Jo

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> -

>> " gothcatz " <gothcatz

>>

>> Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:12 PM

>> Re: Whats your dietary history?

>>

>>

>> > Mine is: vegetarian (lacto-ovo) since the age of 5, then vegan since

>> > the age of 16 when I read an article on the dairy industry.

>> >

>> >

>> > , " Joanne " <Kimberley1 wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Hello,

>> > > I thought this may be an interesting thread for all those newbies

>> > out there,

>> > > Whats your dietary history? Mine is :

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

>> > there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>> > ---------------------------

>> > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

>> > Un: send a blank message to

>> > -

>> >

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On Wednesday, April 26, 2006, at 09:07 am, Hamiltonsfitness

wrote:

> Perhaps some of us don't want to get into the " I'm more vegan than

> you " thing

 

Or do not find self indulgent revisionist history to be of much

interest.

 

Michael.

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Hi,

 

On the other hand, remembering how one became veg*n, and knowing how other

people were persuaded to change, can help us work out how best to persuade

others.

 

For the more evangalistic among us!

 

John

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" mav lists " <ndisc

 

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:14 AM

Re: Re: Whats your dietary history?

 

 

> On Wednesday, April 26, 2006, at 09:07 am, Hamiltonsfitness

> wrote:

> > Perhaps some of us don't want to get into the " I'm more vegan than

> > you " thing

>

> Or do not find self indulgent revisionist history to be of much

> interest.

>

> Michael.

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Goodness! What's the problem? If you don't want to post, don't. And if you don't want to read, that's easy, too:-)

 

 

On Behalf Of mav lists26 April 2006 11:14 Subject: Re: Re: Whats your dietary history?

On Wednesday, April 26, 2006, at 09:07 am, Hamiltonsfitness wrote:

Perhaps some of us don't want to get into the "I'm more vegan than you" thingOr do not find self indulgent revisionist history to be of much interest.Michael.

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On Wednesday, April 26, 2006, at 12:14 pm, Michael Benis wrote:

> Goodness! What's the problem? If you don't want to post, don't.

 

Quite. But given that someone was complaining because some of us who

chose not to post on this particular topic it is only polite to offer

an explanation as to why.

 

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I dont think anyone wants that, its just out of interest thats all. Reply if you like, or dont! The Valley Vegan...............Hamiltonsfitness wrote: In a message dated 26/04/2006 06:08:19 GMT Daylight Time, Kimberley1 writes: Wow , such an overwhelming response! considering there is 290 or so membersof this list! (but alas what I expected!) Perhaps some of us don't want to get into the "I'm more vegan than you" thing~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Peter H

 

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Or it could be that the thread was only started, what, yesterday?

Give people time (like, a few days) to read it and reply: most people

aren't glued in front of their computers, constantly monitoring this

group for any new emails to respond to! Patience, Jo. :)

 

 

, " John Davis " <mcxg46 wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> 290 members eh? Blimey. But I wonder how many of those email

addresses are

> still valid, and of those that are, how many actually read the

posts?

>

> Personally, judging from emails, I'd always thought there were

perhaps 20 or

> so of us here.

 

*snip!*

 

> John

 

> -

> " Joanne " <Kimberley1

>

> Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:08 AM

> Re: Re: Whats your dietary history?

>

>

> > Wow , such an overwhelming response! considering there is 290 or

so

> members

> > of this list! (but alas what I expected!)

> >

> > Jo

> >

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Hi

 

I was forced to eat meat that I hated as a child, by the time I was

about 15 I'd stopped eating processed meat (burgers etc), offal and

steak (as my mum didn't waste it on me any more as it was so

expensive). As soon as I turned 18 I stopped eating all meat but

ate fish for a few more months. Then when I was 21 I turned vegan

and have been ever since. Once I gave up meat and looked into the

cruelty issue (had only been a taste issue for me before I was in my

late teens) I became vegan. I had already stopped using certain

bath products, make up etc because of the testing when I was around

12 but didn't associate this cruelty in the same way with food.

Probably because you are brought up thinking about happy farms with

free range animals etc and meat eaters don't think about the reality

much as it will put them off their food!!!

 

Michelle

 

 

, " gothcatz " <gothcatz wrote:

>

> Or it could be that the thread was only started, what, yesterday?

> Give people time (like, a few days) to read it and reply: most

people

> aren't glued in front of their computers, constantly monitoring

this

> group for any new emails to respond to! Patience, Jo. :)

>

>

> , " John Davis " <mcxg46@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > 290 members eh? Blimey. But I wonder how many of those email

> addresses are

> > still valid, and of those that are, how many actually read the

> posts?

> >

> > Personally, judging from emails, I'd always thought there were

> perhaps 20 or

> > so of us here.

>

> *snip!*

>

> > John

>

> > -

> > " Joanne " <Kimberley1@>

> >

> > Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:08 AM

> > Re: Re: Whats your dietary history?

> >

> >

> > > Wow , such an overwhelming response! considering there is 290

or

> so

> > members

> > > of this list! (but alas what I expected!)

> > >

> > > Jo

> > >

>

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