Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi I was wondering whether anyone out there can claim they are 100% vegan and whether it is in fact possible in this society. I think we all do our best, but I know that there are lot of things that I use that aren't vegan, but in some cases there aren't practical alternatives. What do other people think? Is it just not eating animal products that makes you vegan or should you get rid of your car, take no medication at all, and only eat organic-vegan fruit and veg.... Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi, In one sense of the word, it isn't possible to be entirely vegan. One simply can't exist without causing suffering and death to other animals, be it traces of animal products in goods we use, or flies on our car windscreen, or deaths caused through the transport of our ostensibly vegan goods to our doors. On the other hand, if you see veganism not as the avoiding of all animal products but as the 'attempt' to reduce suffering to animals through the avoidance of animal products, we can still rightly call ourselves vegan even as we use the occasional animal product, consume a trace of whey, or kill a fly. Which leaves the question of to what extent we should avoid animal products, especially those such as medicines which we may need. At which point I tend to point to the part of the definition of veganism that describes it as an attempt 'so far as is possible and practical'. Being ill because one doesn't want to have a non-vegan medicine doesn't strike me as practical, for example, so I would still consider myself vegan whilst using that medicine. So, to enjoy a brief paradox, I consider myself vegan even when I use a product that isn't vegan, or discover I've eaten something that wasn't vegan. Is my take on it, anyway. John - " Michelle D'Arcy " <michelledarcy Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:44 PM is anyone 100% vegan? > Hi > > I was wondering whether anyone out there can claim they are 100% vegan > and whether it is in fact possible in this society. > > I think we all do our best, but I know that there are lot of things > that I use that aren't vegan, but in some cases there aren't practical > alternatives. What do other people think? Is it just not eating > animal products that makes you vegan or should you get rid of your > car, take no medication at all, and only eat organic-vegan fruit and > veg.... > > > Michelle > > > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I absolutely agree with what John says here, that's my take on it too. I was omnivorous up until the age of 18, became vegan at 20 and for the past 17 years have been at varying stages between really-really-strict-vegan and slightly-laid-back-vegan. I don't think that vegans should get in to comparing themselves against other vegans, it's not a competition! The way I look at it is - at one end there is the vegan ideal, at the other end there's the MacDonalds munching couldn't give a toss type of person (of whom, sadly, there are still many millions!) I think the best thing to do is to sometimes review whereabouts you fit in between the two extremes and ask yourself if you are truly comfortable there. S-JJohn Davis <mcxg46 wrote: Hi,In one sense of the word, it isn't possible to be entirely vegan. One simplycan't exist without causing suffering and death to other animals, be ittraces of animal products in goods we use, or flies on our car windscreen,or deaths caused through the transport of our ostensibly vegan goods to ourdoors.On the other hand, if you see veganism not as the avoiding of all animalproducts but as the 'attempt' to reduce suffering to animals through theavoidance of animal products, we can still rightly call ourselves vegan evenas we use the occasional animal product, consume a trace of whey, or kill afly.Which leaves the question of to what extent we should avoid animal products,especially those such as medicines which we may need. At which point I tendto point to the part of the definition of veganism that describes it as anattempt 'so far as is possible and practical'. Being ill because one doesn'twant to have a non-vegan medicine doesn't strike me as practical, forexample, so I would still consider myself vegan whilst using that medicine.So, to enjoy a brief paradox, I consider myself vegan even when I use aproduct that isn't vegan, or discover I've eaten something that wasn'tvegan.Is my take on it, anyway.John- "Michelle D'Arcy" Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:44 PM is anyone 100% vegan?> Hi>> I was wondering whether anyone out there can claim they are 100% vegan> and whether it is in fact possible in this society.>> I think we all do our best, but I know that there are lot of things> that I use that aren't vegan, but in some cases there aren't practical> alternatives. What do other people think? Is it just not eating> animal products that makes you vegan or should you get rid of your> car, take no medication at all, and only eat organic-vegan fruit and> veg....>>> Michelle>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.> ---------------------------> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Guidelines: visit > Un: send a blank message to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Thers no such thing as perfection. The Valley Vegan.............Michelle D'Arcy <michelledarcy wrote: HiI was wondering whether anyone out there can claim they are 100% vegan and whether it is in fact possible in this society.I think we all do our best, but I know that there are lot of things that I use that aren't vegan, but in some cases there aren't practical alternatives. What do other people think? Is it just not eating animal products that makes you vegan or should you get rid of your car, take no medication at all, and only eat organic-vegan fruit and veg....Michelle~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Well, everything in life is so inextricably linked to everything else, that I would say that unless you cut yourself off from society completely, live in a cave in the woods, grow your own food, don't use any electricity etc then somehow, at some point, something you do will be adversely affecting another animal and wouldn't be 100% vegan. I suppose the best we can do is to not *knowingly* use any non-vegan product (and if it is discovered that something has an animal product in it then not to use it again), or if any harm caused is unavoidable (like accidently stepping on an insect while walking). I think attitude has a lot to do with being vegan, as well as actions. Both are factors. , Michelle D'Arcy <michelledarcy wrote: > > Hi > > I was wondering whether anyone out there can claim they are 100% vegan > and whether it is in fact possible in this society. > > I think we all do our best, but I know that there are lot of things > that I use that aren't vegan, but in some cases there aren't practical > alternatives. What do other people think? Is it just not eating > animal products that makes you vegan or should you get rid of your > car, take no medication at all, and only eat organic-vegan fruit and > veg.... > > > Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 , " gothcatz " <gothcatz wrote: > > Well, everything in life is so inextricably linked to everything > else, that I would say that unless you cut yourself off from society > completely, live in a cave in the woods, grow your own food, don't > use any electricity etc then somehow, at some point, something you > do will be adversely affecting another animal and wouldn't be 100% > vegan. > > I suppose the best we can do is to not *knowingly* use any non- vegan > product (and if it is discovered that something has an animal > product in it then not to use it again), or if any harm caused is > unavoidable (like accidently stepping on an insect while walking). I > think attitude has a lot to do with being vegan, as well as actions. > Both are factors. > > > , Michelle D'Arcy <michelledarcy@> > wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I was wondering whether anyone out there can claim they are 100% > vegan > > and whether it is in fact possible in this society. > > > > I think we all do our best, but I know that there are lot of > things > > that I use that aren't vegan, but in some cases there aren't > practical > > alternatives. What do other people think? Is it just not eating > > animal products that makes you vegan or should you get rid of your > > car, take no medication at all, and only eat organic-vegan fruit > and > > veg.... > > > > > > Michelle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I have just completed a complex algorithm... The result: I am 98.67854% vegan. I hope that settles it! Cheers, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 James, Too funny.. okay then lets have the formula so we can all plug in our values and find out percentages *wink* GinaJames H <james wrote: I have just completed a complex algorithm... The result: I am 98.67854% vegan. I hope that settles it! Cheers, James Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 On 28 Apr 2006, at 14:47, James H wrote: > I have just completed a complex algorithm... > > The result: I am 98.67854% vegan. > Me too - I'm 98.67855% vegan though. ;-) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I'm modest: 98.67845 I did use a solar calculator, though.... :-) On Behalf Of Paul Russell 28 April 2006 15:10 Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? On 28 Apr 2006, at 14:47, James H wrote: > I have just completed a complex algorithm... > > The result: I am 98.67854% vegan. > Me too - I'm 98.67855% vegan though. ;-) Paul ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Y'all are all just plain silly GinaMichael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: I'm modest: 98.67845I did use a solar calculator, though.... :-) On Behalf OfPaul Russell28 April 2006 15:10 Subject: Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan?On 28 Apr 2006, at 14:47, James H wrote:> I have just completed a complex algorithm...>> The result: I am 98.67854% vegan.>Me too - I'm 98.67855% vegan though. ;-)Paul~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there maybe another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 What 100%? On Behalf Of Regina Fay Brook28 April 2006 17:10 Subject: RE: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? Y'all are all just plain silly Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 99.9% pure vegansilly... Does anyone know where to get shoes that are vegan without ordering online? My son wears a size 8 (he is 11) and we need to find school shoes and have had no luck so far! GinaMichael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: What 100%? On Behalf Of Regina Fay Brook28 April 2006 17:10 Subject: RE: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? Y'all are all just plain silly Gina Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Vegan kids' shoes are really hard to find in the UK. In the US I used to go to Payless but I haven't found anything like that in the UK. And Vegetarian Shoes here in Brighton don't do kid's shoes any more, it seems. Paul On 28 Apr 2006, at 19:23, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > 99.9% pure vegansilly... > Does anyone know where to get shoes that are vegan without ordering > online? My son wears a size 8 (he is 11) and we need to find school > shoes and have had no luck so far! > Gina > > Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: > What 100%? > > On > Behalf Of Regina Fay Brook > 28 April 2006 17:10 > > RE: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? > > Y'all are all just plain silly > Gina > > > > > Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN > Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for > just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Shops like Matalan and Tesco's do synthetic childrens shoes, but you have to check carefully as some of them are made in China and I won't buy anything that has come from China, Jo >-- Original Message -- > >Paul Russell <prussell >Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:32:36 +0100 >Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? > > > >Vegan kids' shoes are really hard to find in the UK. In the US I used >to go to Payless but I haven't found anything like that in the UK. >And Vegetarian Shoes here in Brighton don't do kid's shoes any more, >it seems. > >Paul > >On 28 Apr 2006, at 19:23, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > >> 99.9% pure vegansilly... >> Does anyone know where to get shoes that are vegan without ordering >> online? My son wears a size 8 (he is 11) and we need to find school >> shoes and have had no luck so far! >> Gina >> >> Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: >> What 100%? >> >> On >> Behalf Of Regina Fay Brook >> 28 April 2006 17:10 >> >> RE: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? >> >> Y'all are all just plain silly >> Gina >> >> >> >> >> Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN >> Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for >> just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. >> >> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >> --------------------------- >> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >> Un: send a blank message to - >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Thanks for the tip - I'm avoiding Tesco at the moment because of the palm oil/orangutan thing, but we have a Matalan near here so I could try there. Paul On 29 Apr 2006, at 14:50, Jo Kimberley wrote: > Shops like Matalan and Tesco's do synthetic childrens shoes, but > you have > to check > carefully as some of them are made in China and I won't buy > anything that > has come from China, > > Jo > > > > >> -- Original Message -- >> >> Paul Russell <prussell >> Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:32:36 +0100 >> Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? >> >> >> >> Vegan kids' shoes are really hard to find in the UK. In the US I used >> to go to Payless but I haven't found anything like that in the UK. >> And Vegetarian Shoes here in Brighton don't do kid's shoes any more, >> it seems. >> >> Paul >> >> On 28 Apr 2006, at 19:23, Regina Fay Brook wrote: >> >>> 99.9% pure vegansilly... >>> Does anyone know where to get shoes that are vegan without ordering >>> online? My son wears a size 8 (he is 11) and we need to find school >>> shoes and have had no luck so far! >>> Gina >>> >>> Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: >>> What 100%? >>> >>> On >>> Behalf Of Regina Fay Brook >>> 28 April 2006 17:10 >>> >>> RE: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? >>> >>> Y'all are all just plain silly >>> Gina >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN >>> Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for >>> just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. >>> >>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>> --------------------------- >>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >>> Un: send a blank message to - >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Asda up the road also has some, but they of course belong to another empire of evil. The Vegan Store does, however, have a few shoes for kids: http://www.veganstore.co.uk/childrens_shoes.html Cheers Mike On Behalf Of Paul Russell 29 April 2006 16:48 Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? Thanks for the tip - I'm avoiding Tesco at the moment because of the palm oil/orangutan thing, but we have a Matalan near here so I could try there. Paul On 29 Apr 2006, at 14:50, Jo Kimberley wrote: > Shops like Matalan and Tesco's do synthetic childrens shoes, but you > have to check carefully as some of them are made in China and I won't > buy anything that has come from China, > > Jo > > > > >> -- Original Message -- >> >> Paul Russell <prussell >> Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:32:36 +0100 >> Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? >> >> >> >> Vegan kids' shoes are really hard to find in the UK. In the US I used >> to go to Payless but I haven't found anything like that in the UK. >> And Vegetarian Shoes here in Brighton don't do kid's shoes any more, >> it seems. >> >> Paul >> >> On 28 Apr 2006, at 19:23, Regina Fay Brook wrote: >> >>> 99.9% pure vegansilly... >>> Does anyone know where to get shoes that are vegan without ordering >>> online? My son wears a size 8 (he is 11) and we need to find school >>> shoes and have had no luck so far! >>> Gina >>> >>> Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: >>> What 100%? >>> >>> On >>> Behalf Of Regina Fay Brook >>> 28 April 2006 17:10 >>> >>> RE: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? >>> >>> Y'all are all just plain silly >>> Gina >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN >>> Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for >>> just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. >>> >>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>> --------------------------- >>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >>> Un: send a blank message to - >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 On 29 Apr 2006, at 16:55, Michael Benis wrote: > Asda up the road also has some, but they of course belong to > another empire > of evil. > > The Vegan Store does, however, have a few shoes for kids: > http://www.veganstore.co.uk/childrens_shoes.html > Thanks - mail order is a bit tricky for kids' shoes though - it's a shame that the Vegan Store don't allow you to call in person (they say that it's because of insurance or something). ASDA might be a possibility though - I generally avoid them because of the Walmart thing (and the fact that the Hollingbury ASDA is a scary place !), but I might make an exception for the hoes. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Wouldn't they let you try them on in the front garden? On Behalf Of Paul Russell 29 April 2006 17:19 Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? On 29 Apr 2006, at 16:55, Michael Benis wrote: > Asda up the road also has some, but they of course belong to another > empire of evil. > > The Vegan Store does, however, have a few shoes for kids: > http://www.veganstore.co.uk/childrens_shoes.html > Thanks - mail order is a bit tricky for kids' shoes though - it's a shame that the Vegan Store don't allow you to call in person (they say that it's because of insurance or something). ASDA might be a possibility though - I generally avoid them because of the Walmart thing (and the fact that the Hollingbury ASDA is a scary place !), but I might make an exception for the hoes. Paul ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I'm glad you went for /that/ interpretation of hoes. ;-) I meant _shoes_ of course. Paul On 29 Apr 2006, at 18:03, Michael Benis wrote: > Wouldn't they let you try them on in the front garden? > > > On > Behalf Of > Paul Russell > 29 April 2006 17:19 > > Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan? > > On 29 Apr 2006, at 16:55, Michael Benis wrote: > >> Asda up the road also has some, but they of course belong to another >> empire of evil. >> >> The Vegan Store does, however, have a few shoes for kids: >> http://www.veganstore.co.uk/childrens_shoes.html >> > > Thanks - mail order is a bit tricky for kids' shoes though - it's a > shame > that the Vegan Store don't allow you to call in person (they say > that it's > because of insurance or something). > > ASDA might be a possibility though - I generally avoid them because > of the > Walmart thing (and the fact that the Hollingbury ASDA is a scary > place !), > but I might make an exception for the hoes. > > Paul > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may > be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 My son wears a mens size 8 (he is 11 but a very big kid) so he could wear mens shoes. He is just picky and doesn't want them too dressy but they still have to be okay for school. GinaPaul Russell <prussell wrote: Thanks for the tip - I'm avoiding Tesco at the moment because of the palm oil/orangutan thing, but we have a Matalan near here so I could try there.PaulOn 29 Apr 2006, at 14:50, Jo Kimberley wrote:> Shops like Matalan and Tesco's do synthetic childrens shoes, but > you have> to check> carefully as some of them are made in China and I won't buy > anything that> has come from China,>> Jo>>>>>> -- Original Message -->> To: >> Paul Russell <prussell>> Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:32:36 +0100>> Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan?>> >>>>>> Vegan kids' shoes are really hard to find in the UK. In the US I used>> to go to Payless but I haven't found anything like that in the UK.>> And Vegetarian Shoes here in Brighton don't do kid's shoes any more,>> it seems.>>>> Paul>>>> On 28 Apr 2006, at 19:23, Regina Fay Brook wrote:>>>>> 99.9% pure vegansilly... >>> Does anyone know where to get shoes that are vegan without ordering>>> online? My son wears a size 8 (he is 11) and we need to find school>>> shoes and have had no luck so far!>>> Gina>>>>>> Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote:>>> What 100%?>>>>>> On>>> Behalf Of Regina Fay Brook>>> 28 April 2006 17:10>>> >>> RE: Re: is anyone 100% vegan?>>>>>> Y'all are all just plain silly >>> Gina>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN>>> Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for>>> just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice.>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.>>> --------------------------->>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>>>> Un: send a blank message to ->>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I actually went to ASDA and all of them had leather uppers. It is hard with my son because he needs to try them on to see if they are comfy He is as picky as a woman. So that presents a problem with the mail order but if he saw something he really liked alot perhaps we could order online. I will check out the links. Thanks everyone! ginaPaul Russell <prussell wrote: I'm glad you went for /that/ interpretation of hoes. ;-)I meant _shoes_ of course.PaulOn 29 Apr 2006, at 18:03, Michael Benis wrote:> Wouldn't they let you try them on in the front garden?>> > On > Behalf Of> Paul Russell> 29 April 2006 17:19> To: > Re: Re: is anyone 100% vegan?>> On 29 Apr 2006, at 16:55, Michael Benis wrote:>>> Asda up the road also has some, but they of course belong to another>> empire of evil.>>>> The Vegan Store does, however, have a few shoes for kids:>> http://www.veganstore.co.uk/childrens_shoes.html>>>> Thanks - mail order is a bit tricky for kids' shoes though - it's a > shame> that the Vegan Store don't allow you to call in person (they say > that it's> because of insurance or something).>> ASDA might be a possibility though - I generally avoid them because > of the> Walmart thing (and the fact that the Hollingbury ASDA is a scary > place !),> but I might make an exception for the hoes.>> Paul>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may> be another side to the story you have not heard.> ---------------------------> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>> Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 On 30 Apr 2006, at 11:12, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > I actually went to ASDA and all of them had leather uppers. It is > hard with my son because he needs to try them on to see if they are > comfy He is as picky as a woman. So that presents a problem with > the mail order but if he saw something he really liked alot perhaps > we could order online. I will check out the links. Thanks everyone! > gina > You could always take a day trip to Brighton and then you could try on all the shoes at Vegetarian Shoes, which range from boringly traditional to completely wacky. They're pretty expensive, but they seem to last a long time. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 That sounds great and I may have to do that.. the one thing is my son is growing like an absolute weed on steroids... he seems to grow out of shoes every 3 months or so.. GinaPaul Russell <prussell wrote: On 30 Apr 2006, at 11:12, Regina Fay Brook wrote:> I actually went to ASDA and all of them had leather uppers. It is > hard with my son because he needs to try them on to see if they are > comfy He is as picky as a woman. So that presents a problem with > the mail order but if he saw something he really liked alot perhaps > we could order online. I will check out the links. Thanks everyone!> gina>You could always take a day trip to Brighton and then you could try on all the shoes at Vegetarian Shoes, which range from boringly traditional to completely wacky. They're pretty expensive, but they seem to last a long time.Paul Regina Fay Brook, RN, BSN Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/ginafay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 On 30 Apr 2006, at 15:22, Regina Fay Brook wrote: > That sounds great and I may have to do that.. the one thing is my > son is growing like an absolute weed on steroids... he seems to > grow out of shoes every 3 months or so.. Ah - better go for the cheap shoes then. Or buy them two sizes too big. ;-) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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