very important campaign about the environment

May 16, 2006

Note; this is not idle spam!!Dear friends who care about our

earth. Judge for yourself if you want to take action. In the Valle

de San Felix, the purest water in Chileruns from 2 rivers, fed by 2

glaciers. Water is a most precious resource, and wars will be fought

for it. Indigenous farmers use the water, there is no unemployment,

and they provide the second largest source of income for the

area. Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold,

silver and other minerals. To get at these, it would be necessary

tobreak, to destroy the glaciers - something never conceived of in

the history of the world - and to make 2 huge holes, each as big as

a whole mountain, one for extraction and one for the mine's rubbish

tip. The project is called PASCUA LAMA. The company is called

Barrick Gold. The operation is planned by a multi-national company,

one of whose members is George Bush Senior. The Chilean Government

has approved the project to start this year,2006. The only reason it

hasn't started yet is because the farmers have got a temporary stay

of execution. If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just

destroy the source of specially pure water, but they will

permanently contaminate the 2 rivers so they will never again be

fit for human or animal consumption because of the use of cyanide

and sulphuric acid in the extraction process. Every last gramme of

gold will go abroad to the multinational company and not one will be

left with the people whose land it is.They will only be left with

the poisoned water and the resultingillnesses. The farmers have been

fighting a long time for their land, but have been forbidden to make

a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior. Their only

hope now of putting brakes on this project is to get helpfrom

international justice. The world must know what is happening in

Chile. The only place to start changing the world is from here. We

ask you to circulate this message amongst your friends in

thefollowing way. Please copy this text, paste it into a new

emailadding your signature and send it to everyone in your address

book. Please will the 100th person to receive and sign the petition

send it tonoapascualama to be forwarded to the Chilean

government. No to Pascua Lama Open-cast mine in the Andean

Cordillera on the Chilean-Argentine frontier. We ask the Chilean

Government not to authorize thePascua Lama projecttoprotect the

whole of 3 glaciers, the purity of thewater of the SanFelixValley

and El Transito, the quality of theagricultural land of theregionof

Atacama, the quality of life of the Diaguita peopleand of the

wholepopulation of the region. Signature, City, Country 1) Katharine

Proudfoot, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK 2) Laura Cole, London, UK 3)

David Platt, London, UK 4) Diane Platt, Manchester, UK 5) Tanya

Corker, Manchester, UK 6) Nicola Hargreaves, UK 7) Nicholas Jones,

UK 8)Johann Don-Daniel, Germany 9)Ashley Berger, Germany 10) Sarah

Downie, Leeds, UK 11) Paula Delahunty, Bingley, UK 12) John

O'Driscoll, Bingley, Uk 13) Jordan-Lee Delahunty, Bingley, UK 14)

Claire Mulvey, Bradford, UK 15) Marie Malcolm Bradford, UK 16) Ann

Clowes, Halifax UK 17) Jayne McGee, Brighouse UK 18) Jason Barratt

Oldham UK 19; Lindsay Torrance, Rochdale UK 20 ) Maggie Ford,

Rochdale 21) Barry Cook, Todmorden 22) Shelley BUrgoyne,

Todmorden 23) Libby Ray, Shipley, England 24) Anne Meynell,

Bradford, England 25) Jim Meynell, Bradford, England 26) Alec

Knibbs, Kings Lynn, England 27) Suzanne Bailey, Valencia, Spain 28)

Agnieszka Legierska, London, England 29) Rosanna Bennett-Moncrieff,

Bristol England 30) Kirsten Bennett-Moncrieff, Bristol, England 31)

Stephen Haley, Silsoe, England 32) Rob Smith, Bristol, England 33)

Basil Anderson, Bristol, England 34) Jonathan Coles, Bristol

England 35) Deborah Weinreb, Bristol England 36) Peter Osborne,

Somerset, England 37) Klaran O-Connor, Bristol, England 38) Rowan

Brunton, Bristol, England 39) Nick Roberts, Bristol, England 40)

Peter Green, Bath, England 41) Paula Dwyer, Staffs, England

May 16, 2006

Email petitions, although well-meaning, tend to be pretty worthless.

There's an online petition here though: <http://

www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/946839131?ltl=1147807441> which

might be a better idea.

Having said that, this is pretty off-topic for a vegan list.

Paul

On 16 May 2006, at 20:08, Paula wrote:

>

> Note; this is not idle spam!!Dear friends who care about our

> earth. Judge for yourself if you want to take action. In the Valle

> de San Felix, the purest water in Chileruns from 2 rivers, fed by 2

> glaciers. Water is a most precious resource, and wars will be fought

> for it. Indigenous farmers use the water, there is no unemployment,

> and they provide the second largest source of income for the

> area. Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold,

> silver and other minerals. To get at these, it would be necessary

> tobreak, to destroy the glaciers - something never conceived of in

> the history of the world - and to make 2 huge holes, each as big as

> a whole mountain, one for extraction and one for the mine's rubbish

> tip. The project is called PASCUA LAMA. The company is called

> Barrick Gold. The operation is planned by a multi-national company,

> one of whose members is George Bush Senior. The Chilean Government

> has approved the project to start this year,2006. The only reason it

> hasn't started yet is because the farmers have got a temporary stay

> of execution. If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just

> destroy the source of specially pure water, but they will

> permanently contaminate the 2 rivers so they will never again be

> fit for human or animal consumption because of the use of cyanide

> and sulphuric acid in the extraction process. Every last gramme of

> gold will go abroad to the multinational company and not one will be

> left with the people whose land it is.They will only be left with

> the poisoned water and the resultingillnesses. The farmers have been

> fighting a long time for their land, but have been forbidden to make

> a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior. Their only

> hope now of putting brakes on this project is to get helpfrom

> international justice. The world must know what is happening in

> Chile. The only place to start changing the world is from here. We

> ask you to circulate this message amongst your friends in

> thefollowing way. Please copy this text, paste it into a new

> emailadding your signature and send it to everyone in your address

> book. Please will the 100th person to receive and sign the petition

> send it tonoapascualama to be forwarded to the Chilean

> government. No to Pascua Lama Open-cast mine in the Andean

> Cordillera on the Chilean-Argentine frontier. We ask the Chilean

> Government not to authorize thePascua Lama projecttoprotect the

> whole of 3 glaciers, the purity of thewater of the SanFelixValley

> and El Transito, the quality of theagricultural land of theregionof

> Atacama, the quality of life of the Diaguita peopleand of the

> wholepopulation of the region. Signature, City, Country 1) Katharine

> Proudfoot, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK 2) Laura Cole, London, UK 3)

> David Platt, London, UK 4) Diane Platt, Manchester, UK 5) Tanya

> Corker, Manchester, UK 6) Nicola Hargreaves, UK 7) Nicholas Jones,

> UK 8)Johann Don-Daniel, Germany 9)Ashley Berger, Germany 10) Sarah

> Downie, Leeds, UK 11) Paula Delahunty, Bingley, UK 12) John

> O'Driscoll, Bingley, Uk 13) Jordan-Lee Delahunty, Bingley, UK 14)

> Claire Mulvey, Bradford, UK 15) Marie Malcolm Bradford, UK 16) Ann

> Clowes, Halifax UK 17) Jayne McGee, Brighouse UK 18) Jason Barratt

> Oldham UK 19; Lindsay Torrance, Rochdale UK 20 ) Maggie Ford,

> Rochdale 21) Barry Cook, Todmorden 22) Shelley BUrgoyne,

> Todmorden 23) Libby Ray, Shipley, England 24) Anne Meynell,

> Bradford, England 25) Jim Meynell, Bradford, England 26) Alec

> Knibbs, Kings Lynn, England 27) Suzanne Bailey, Valencia, Spain 28)

> Agnieszka Legierska, London, England 29) Rosanna Bennett-Moncrieff,

> Bristol England 30) Kirsten Bennett-Moncrieff, Bristol, England 31)

> Stephen Haley, Silsoe, England 32) Rob Smith, Bristol, England 33)

> Basil Anderson, Bristol, England 34) Jonathan Coles, Bristol

> England 35) Deborah Weinreb, Bristol England 36) Peter Osborne,

> Somerset, England 37) Klaran O-Connor, Bristol, England 38) Rowan

> Brunton, Bristol, England 39) Nick Roberts, Bristol, England 40)

> Peter Green, Bath, England 41) Paula Dwyer, Staffs, England

>

May 16, 2006

It might be "off topic" but there are only so many vegan topics that havent been covered, and most vegans care about the enviroment. And it has been kinda quiet on here lately? The Valley Vegan...............Paul Russell <prussell wrote: Email petitions, although well-meaning, tend to be pretty worthless. There's an online petition here though: www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/946839131?ltl=1147807441> which might be a better idea.Having said that, this is pretty off-topic for a vegan list.PaulOn 16 May 2006, at 20:08, Paula wrote:>> Note; this is not idle spam!!Dear friends who care about our> earth. Judge for yourself if you want to take action. In the Valle> de San Felix, the purest water in Chileruns

from 2 rivers, fed by 2> glaciers. Water is a most precious resource, and wars will be fought> for it. Indigenous farmers use the water, there is no unemployment,> and they provide the second largest source of income for the> area. Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold,> silver and other minerals. To get at these, it would be necessary> tobreak, to destroy the glaciers - something never conceived of in> the history of the world - and to make 2 huge holes, each as big as> a whole mountain, one for extraction and one for the mine's rubbish> tip. The project is called PASCUA LAMA. The company is called> Barrick Gold. The operation is planned by a multi-national company,> one of whose members is George Bush Senior. The Chilean Government> has approved the project to start this year,2006. The only reason it> hasn't started yet is because the farmers have got a temporary

stay> of execution. If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just> destroy the source of specially pure water, but they will> permanently contaminate the 2 rivers so they will never again be> fit for human or animal consumption because of the use of cyanide> and sulphuric acid in the extraction process. Every last gramme of> gold will go abroad to the multinational company and not one will be> left with the people whose land it is.They will only be left with> the poisoned water and the resultingillnesses. The farmers have been> fighting a long time for their land, but have been forbidden to make> a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior. Their only> hope now of putting brakes on this project is to get helpfrom> international justice. The world must know what is happening in> Chile. The only place to start changing the world is from here. We> ask you to

circulate this message amongst your friends in> thefollowing way. Please copy this text, paste it into a new> emailadding your signature and send it to everyone in your address> book. Please will the 100th person to receive and sign the petition> send it tonoapascualama to be forwarded to the Chilean> government. No to Pascua Lama Open-cast mine in the Andean> Cordillera on the Chilean-Argentine frontier. We ask the Chilean> Government not to authorize thePascua Lama projecttoprotect the> whole of 3 glaciers, the purity of thewater of the SanFelixValley> and El Transito, the quality of theagricultural land of theregionof> Atacama, the quality of life of the Diaguita peopleand of the> wholepopulation of the region. Signature, City, Country 1) Katharine> Proudfoot, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK 2) Laura Cole, London, UK 3)> David Platt, London, UK 4) Diane Platt, Manchester, UK 5)

Tanya> Corker, Manchester, UK 6) Nicola Hargreaves, UK 7) Nicholas Jones,> UK 8)Johann Don-Daniel, Germany 9)Ashley Berger, Germany 10) Sarah> Downie, Leeds, UK 11) Paula Delahunty, Bingley, UK 12) John> O'Driscoll, Bingley, Uk 13) Jordan-Lee Delahunty, Bingley, UK 14)> Claire Mulvey, Bradford, UK 15) Marie Malcolm Bradford, UK 16) Ann> Clowes, Halifax UK 17) Jayne McGee, Brighouse UK 18) Jason Barratt> Oldham UK 19; Lindsay Torrance, Rochdale UK 20 ) Maggie Ford,> Rochdale 21) Barry Cook, Todmorden 22) Shelley BUrgoyne,> Todmorden 23) Libby Ray, Shipley, England 24) Anne Meynell,> Bradford, England 25) Jim Meynell, Bradford, England 26) Alec> Knibbs, Kings Lynn, England 27) Suzanne Bailey, Valencia, Spain 28)> Agnieszka Legierska, London, England 29) Rosanna Bennett-Moncrieff,> Bristol England 30) Kirsten Bennett-Moncrieff, Bristol, England 31)> Stephen Haley, Silsoe, England

32) Rob Smith, Bristol, England 33)> Basil Anderson, Bristol, England 34) Jonathan Coles, Bristol> England 35) Deborah Weinreb, Bristol England 36) Peter Osborne,> Somerset, England 37) Klaran O-Connor, Bristol, England 38) Rowan> Brunton, Bristol, England 39) Nick Roberts, Bristol, England 40)> Peter Green, Bath, England 41) Paula Dwyer, Staffs, England>>>>>>

May 16, 2006

Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to sound harsh, but there didn't seem to be

any vegan connection. If it's someone who already contributes to the

group on vegan matters who posts something off-topic then it's no big

deal, but often it's just people who join the list specifically to

promote their own unrelated agenda and then disappear again. I don't

suppose environmentalists would appreciate it if vegans posted vegan

campaign info on their lists.

But anyway, let's not waste any more bandwidth over it - how are you

doing Peter ?

Paul

On 16 May 2006, at 20:36, peter hurd wrote:

> It might be " off topic " but there are only so many vegan topics

> that havent been covered, and most vegans care about the enviroment.

> And it has been kinda quiet on here lately?

>

> The Valley Vegan...............

>

> Paul Russell <prussell wrote:

> Email petitions, although well-meaning, tend to be pretty worthless.

> There's an online petition here though:

> www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/946839131?ltl=1147807441> which

> might be a better idea.

>

> Having said that, this is pretty off-topic for a vegan list.

>

> Paul

>

> On 16 May 2006, at 20:08, Paula wrote:

>

> >

> > Note; this is not idle spam!!Dear friends who care about our

> > earth. Judge for yourself if you want to take action. In the Valle

> > de San Felix, the purest water in Chileruns from 2 rivers, fed by 2

> > glaciers. Water is a most precious resource, and wars will be fought

> > for it. Indigenous farmers use the water, there is no unemployment,

> > and they provide the second largest source of income for the

> > area. Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold,

> > silver and other minerals. To get at these, it would be necessary

> > tobreak, to destroy the glaciers - something never conceived of in

> > the history of the world - and to make 2 huge holes, each as big as

> > a whole mountain, one for extraction and one for the mine's rubbish

> > tip. The project is called PASCUA LAMA. The company is called

> > Barrick Gold. The operation is planned by a multi-national company,

> > one of whose members is George Bush Senior. The Chilean Government

> > has approved the project to start this year,2006. The only reason it

> > hasn't started yet is because the farmers have got a temporary stay

> > of execution. If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just

> > destroy the source of specially pure water, but they will

> > permanently contaminate the 2 rivers so they will never again be

> > fit for human or animal consumption because of the use of cyanide

> > and sulphuric acid in the extraction process. Every last gramme of

> > gold will go abroad to the multinational company and not one will be

> > left with the people whose land it is.They will only be left with

> > the poisoned water and the resultingillnesses. The farmers have been

> > fighting a long time for their land, but have been forbidden to make

> > a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior. Their only

> > hope now of putting brakes on this project is to get helpfrom

> > international justice. The world must know what is happening in

> > Chile. The only place to start changing the world is from here. We

> > ask you to circulate this message amongst your friends in

> > thefollowing way. Please copy this text, paste it into a new

> > emailadding your signature and send it to everyone in your address

> > book. Please will the 100th person to receive and sign the petition

> > send it tonoapascualama to be forwarded to the Chilean

> > government. No to Pascua Lama Open-cast mine in the Andean

> > Cordillera on the Chilean-Argentine frontier. We ask the Chilean

> > Government not to authorize thePascua Lama projecttoprotect the

> > whole of 3 glaciers, the purity of thewater of the SanFelixValley

> > and El Transito, the quality of theagricultural land of theregionof

> > Atacama, the quality of life of the Diaguita peopleand of the

> > wholepopulation of the region. Signature, City, Country 1) Katharine

> > Proudfoot, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK 2) Laura Cole, London, UK 3)

> > David Platt, London, UK 4) Diane Platt, Manchester, UK 5) Tanya

> > Corker, Manchester, UK 6) Nicola Hargreaves, UK 7) Nicholas Jones,

> > UK 8)Johann Don-Daniel, Germany 9)Ashley Berger, Germany 10) Sarah

> > Downie, Leeds, UK 11) Paula Delahunty, Bingley, UK 12) John

> > O'Driscoll, Bingley, Uk 13) Jordan-Lee Delahunty, Bingley, UK 14)

> > Claire Mulvey, Bradford, UK 15) Marie Malcolm Bradford, UK 16) Ann

> > Clowes, Halifax UK 17) Jayne McGee, Brighouse UK 18) Jason Barratt

> > Oldham UK 19; Lindsay Torrance, Rochdale UK 20 ) Maggie Ford,

> > Rochdale 21) Barry Cook, Todmorden 22) Shelley BUrgoyne,

> > Todmorden 23) Libby Ray, Shipley, England 24) Anne Meynell,

> > Bradford, England 25) Jim Meynell, Bradford, England 26) Alec

> > Knibbs, Kings Lynn, England 27) Suzanne Bailey, Valencia, Spain 28)

> > Agnieszka Legierska, London, England 29) Rosanna Bennett-Moncrieff,

> > Bristol England 30) Kirsten Bennett-Moncrieff, Bristol, England 31)

> > Stephen Haley, Silsoe, England 32) Rob Smith, Bristol, England 33)

> > Basil Anderson, Bristol, England 34) Jonathan Coles, Bristol

> > England 35) Deborah Weinreb, Bristol England 36) Peter Osborne,

> > Somerset, England 37) Klaran O-Connor, Bristol, England 38) Rowan

> > Brunton, Bristol, England 39) Nick Roberts, Bristol, England 40)

> > Peter Green, Bath, England 41) Paula Dwyer, Staffs, England

> >

May 17, 2006

Actually I've been a member of this group for more

than 6 months. Someone sent the petition to me and I

just thought it maybe of interest to people on here

who care about the environment. Seems not...

Paula

= = = Original message = = =

Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to sound harsh, but there

didn't seem to be

any vegan connection. If it's someone who already

contributes to the

group on vegan matters who posts something off-topic

then it's no big

deal, but often it's just people who join the list

specifically to

promote their own unrelated agenda and then disappear

again. I don't

suppose environmentalists would appreciate it if

vegans posted vegan

campaign info on their lists.

But anyway, let's not waste any more bandwidth over it

- how are you

doing Peter ?

Paul

On 16 May 2006, at 20:36, peter hurd wrote:

> It might be " off topic " but there are only so many

vegan topics

> that havent been covered, and most vegans care about

the enviroment.

> And it has been kinda quiet on here lately?

>

> The Valley Vegan...............

>

> Paul Russell <prussell wrote:

> Email petitions, although well-meaning, tend to be

pretty worthless.

> There's an online petition here though:

>

www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/946839131?ltl=1147807441>

which

> might be a better idea.

>

> Having said that, this is pretty off-topic for a

vegan list.

>

> Paul

>

> On 16 May 2006, at 20:08, Paula wrote:

>

> >

> > Note; this is not idle spam!!Dear friends who care

about our

> > earth. Judge for yourself if you want to take

action. In the Valle

> > de San Felix, the purest water in Chileruns from 2

rivers, fed by 2

> > glaciers. Water is a most precious resource, and

wars will be fought

> > for it. Indigenous farmers use the water, there is

no unemployment,

> > and they provide the second largest source of

income for the

> > area. Under the glaciers has been found a huge

deposit of gold,

> > silver and other minerals. To get at these, it

would be necessary

> > tobreak, to destroy the glaciers - something never

conceived of in

> > the history of the world - and to make 2 huge

holes, each as big as

> > a whole mountain, one for extraction and one for

the mine's rubbish

> > tip. The project is called PASCUA LAMA. The

company is called

> > Barrick Gold. The operation is planned by a

multi-national company,

> > one of whose members is George Bush Senior. The

Chilean Government

> > has approved the project to start this year,2006.

The only reason it

> > hasn't started yet is because the farmers have got

a temporary stay

> > of execution. If they destroy the glaciers, they

will not just

> > destroy the source of specially pure water, but

they will

> > permanently contaminate the 2 rivers so they will

never again be

> > fit for human or animal consumption because of the

use of cyanide

> > and sulphuric acid in the extraction process.

Every last gramme of

> > gold will go abroad to the multinational company

and not one will be

> > left with the people whose land it is.They will

only be left with

> > the poisoned water and the resultingillnesses. The

farmers have been

> > fighting a long time for their land, but have been

forbidden to make

> > a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the

Interior. Their only

> > hope now of putting brakes on this project is to

get helpfrom

> > international justice. The world must know what is

happening in

> > Chile. The only place to start changing the world

is from here. We

> > ask you to circulate this message amongst your

friends in

> > thefollowing way. Please copy this text, paste it

into a new

> > emailadding your signature and send it to everyone

in your address

> > book. Please will the 100th person to receive and

sign the petition

> > send it tonoapascualama to be forwarded

to the Chilean

> > government. No to Pascua Lama Open-cast mine in

the Andean

> > Cordillera on the Chilean-Argentine frontier. We

ask the Chilean

> > Government not to authorize thePascua Lama

projecttoprotect the

> > whole of 3 glaciers, the purity of thewater of the

SanFelixValley

> > and El Transito, the quality of theagricultural

land of theregionof

> > Atacama, the quality of life of the Diaguita

peopleand of the

> > wholepopulation of the region. Signature, City,

Country 1) Katharine

> > Proudfoot, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK 2) Laura Cole,

London, UK 3)

> > David Platt, London, UK 4) Diane Platt,

Manchester, UK 5) Tanya

> > Corker, Manchester, UK 6) Nicola Hargreaves, UK 7)

Nicholas Jones,

> > UK 8)Johann Don-Daniel, Germany 9)Ashley Berger,

Germany 10) Sarah

> > Downie, Leeds, UK 11) Paula Delahunty, Bingley, UK

12) John

> > O'Driscoll, Bingley, Uk 13) Jordan-Lee Delahunty,

Bingley, UK 14)

> > Claire Mulvey, Bradford, UK 15) Marie Malcolm

Bradford, UK 16) Ann

> > Clowes, Halifax UK 17) Jayne McGee, Brighouse UK

18) Jason Barratt

> > Oldham UK 19; Lindsay Torrance, Rochdale UK 20 )

Maggie Ford,

> > Rochdale 21) Barry Cook, Todmorden 22) Shelley

BUrgoyne,

> > Todmorden 23) Libby Ray, Shipley, England 24) Anne

Meynell,

> > Bradford, England 25) Jim Meynell, Bradford,

England 26) Alec

> > Knibbs, Kings Lynn, England 27) Suzanne Bailey,

Valencia, Spain 28)

> > Agnieszka Legierska, London, England 29) Rosanna

Bennett-Moncrieff,

> > Bristol England 30) Kirsten Bennett-Moncrieff,

Bristol, England 31)

> > Stephen Haley, Silsoe, England 32) Rob Smith,

Bristol, England 33)

> > Basil Anderson, Bristol, England 34) Jonathan

Coles, Bristol

> > England 35) Deborah Weinreb, Bristol England 36)

Peter Osborne,

> > Somerset, England 37) Klaran O-Connor, Bristol,

England 38) Rowan

> > Brunton, Bristol, England 39) Nick Roberts,

Bristol, England 40)

> > Peter Green, Bath, England 41) Paula Dwyer,

Staffs, England

> >

May 17, 2006

Hi Paul, point taken. I`m fine, trying hard to win the battle in the garden against slugs at the moment, and all this wet weather isnt helping! The Valley Vegan...................Paul Russell <prussell wrote: Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to sound harsh, but there didn't seem to be any vegan connection. If it's someone who already contributes to the group on vegan matters who posts something off-topic then it's no big deal, but often it's just people who join the list specifically to promote their own unrelated agenda and then disappear again. I don't suppose environmentalists would appreciate it if vegans posted vegan campaign info on their lists.But anyway, let's not waste any more bandwidth over it - how are you doing Peter ?PaulOn 16 May 2006,

at 20:36, peter hurd wrote:> It might be "off topic" but there are only so many vegan topics > that havent been covered, and most vegans care about the enviroment.> And it has been kinda quiet on here lately?>> The Valley Vegan...............>> Paul Russell wrote:> Email petitions, although well-meaning, tend to be pretty worthless.> There's an online petition here though:> www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/946839131?ltl=1147807441> which> might be a better idea.>> Having said that, this is pretty off-topic for a vegan list.>> Paul>> On 16 May 2006, at 20:08, Paula wrote:>> >> > Note; this is not idle spam!!Dear friends who care about our> > earth. Judge for yourself if you want to take action. In the Valle> > de San Felix, the purest water in Chileruns from 2 rivers, fed by

2> > glaciers. Water is a most precious resource, and wars will be fought> > for it. Indigenous farmers use the water, there is no unemployment,> > and they provide the second largest source of income for the> > area. Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold,> > silver and other minerals. To get at these, it would be necessary> > tobreak, to destroy the glaciers - something never conceived of in> > the history of the world - and to make 2 huge holes, each as big as> > a whole mountain, one for extraction and one for the mine's rubbish> > tip. The project is called PASCUA LAMA. The company is called> > Barrick Gold. The operation is planned by a multi-national company,> > one of whose members is George Bush Senior. The Chilean Government> > has approved the project to start this year,2006. The only reason it> > hasn't started yet

is because the farmers have got a temporary stay> > of execution. If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just> > destroy the source of specially pure water, but they will> > permanently contaminate the 2 rivers so they will never again be> > fit for human or animal consumption because of the use of cyanide> > and sulphuric acid in the extraction process. Every last gramme of> > gold will go abroad to the multinational company and not one will be> > left with the people whose land it is.They will only be left with> > the poisoned water and the resultingillnesses. The farmers have been> > fighting a long time for their land, but have been forbidden to make> > a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior. Their only> > hope now of putting brakes on this project is to get helpfrom> > international justice. The world must know what is happening

in> > Chile. The only place to start changing the world is from here. We> > ask you to circulate this message amongst your friends in> > thefollowing way. Please copy this text, paste it into a new> > emailadding your signature and send it to everyone in your address> > book. Please will the 100th person to receive and sign the petition> > send it tonoapascualama to be forwarded to the Chilean> > government. No to Pascua Lama Open-cast mine in the Andean> > Cordillera on the Chilean-Argentine frontier. We ask the Chilean> > Government not to authorize thePascua Lama projecttoprotect the> > whole of 3 glaciers, the purity of thewater of the SanFelixValley> > and El Transito, the quality of theagricultural land of theregionof> > Atacama, the quality of life of the Diaguita peopleand of the> > wholepopulation of the region. Signature,

City, Country 1) Katharine> > Proudfoot, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK 2) Laura Cole, London, UK 3)> > David Platt, London, UK 4) Diane Platt, Manchester, UK 5) Tanya> > Corker, Manchester, UK 6) Nicola Hargreaves, UK 7) Nicholas Jones,> > UK 8)Johann Don-Daniel, Germany 9)Ashley Berger, Germany 10) Sarah> > Downie, Leeds, UK 11) Paula Delahunty, Bingley, UK 12) John> > O'Driscoll, Bingley, Uk 13) Jordan-Lee Delahunty, Bingley, UK 14)> > Claire Mulvey, Bradford, UK 15) Marie Malcolm Bradford, UK 16) Ann> > Clowes, Halifax UK 17) Jayne McGee, Brighouse UK 18) Jason Barratt> > Oldham UK 19; Lindsay Torrance, Rochdale UK 20 ) Maggie Ford,> > Rochdale 21) Barry Cook, Todmorden 22) Shelley BUrgoyne,> > Todmorden 23) Libby Ray, Shipley, England 24) Anne Meynell,> > Bradford, England 25) Jim Meynell, Bradford, England 26) Alec> > Knibbs, Kings Lynn, England

27) Suzanne Bailey, Valencia, Spain 28)> > Agnieszka Legierska, London, England 29) Rosanna Bennett-Moncrieff,> > Bristol England 30) Kirsten Bennett-Moncrieff, Bristol, England 31)> > Stephen Haley, Silsoe, England 32) Rob Smith, Bristol, England 33)> > Basil Anderson, Bristol, England 34) Jonathan Coles, Bristol> > England 35) Deborah Weinreb, Bristol England 36) Peter Osborne,> > Somerset, England 37) Klaran O-Connor, Bristol, England 38) Rowan> > Brunton, Bristol, England 39) Nick Roberts, Bristol, England 40)> > Peter Green, Bath, England 41) Paula Dwyer, Staffs, England> >> >> >> >> >> >

May 17, 2006

Paula, Dont loose heart, it is welcome, this group seems a little quiet at the moment. The Valley Vegan..............Paula <paula.dwyer3 wrote: Actually I've been a member of this group for morethan 6 months. Someone sent the petition to me and Ijust thought it maybe of interest to people on herewho care about the environment. Seems not... Paula= = = Original message = = =Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to sound harsh, but theredidn't seem to be any vegan connection. If it's someone who alreadycontributes to the group on vegan matters who posts something off-topicthen it's no big deal, but often it's just people who join the listspecifically to promote their own unrelated agenda and then

disappearagain. I don't suppose environmentalists would appreciate it ifvegans posted vegan campaign info on their lists.But anyway, let's not waste any more bandwidth over it- how are you doing Peter ?PaulOn 16 May 2006, at 20:36, peter hurd wrote:> It might be "off topic" but there are only so manyvegan topics > that havent been covered, and most vegans care aboutthe enviroment.> And it has been kinda quiet on here lately?>> The Valley Vegan...............>> Paul Russell wrote:> Email petitions, although well-meaning, tend to bepretty worthless.> There's an online petition here though:>www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/946839131?ltl=1147807441>which> might be a better idea.>> Having said that, this is pretty off-topic for avegan list.>> Paul>> On 16 May

2006, at 20:08, Paula wrote:>> >> > Note; this is not idle spam!!Dear friends who careabout our> > earth. Judge for yourself if you want to takeaction. In the Valle> > de San Felix, the purest water in Chileruns from 2rivers, fed by 2> > glaciers. Water is a most precious resource, andwars will be fought> > for it. Indigenous farmers use the water, there isno unemployment,> > and they provide the second largest source ofincome for the> > area. Under the glaciers has been found a hugedeposit of gold,> > silver and other minerals. To get at these, itwould be necessary> > tobreak, to destroy the glaciers - something neverconceived of in> > the history of the world - and to make 2 hugeholes, each as big as> > a whole mountain, one for extraction and one forthe mine's rubbish> > tip. The project is

called PASCUA LAMA. Thecompany is called> > Barrick Gold. The operation is planned by amulti-national company,> > one of whose members is George Bush Senior. TheChilean Government> > has approved the project to start this year,2006.The only reason it> > hasn't started yet is because the farmers have gota temporary stay> > of execution. If they destroy the glaciers, theywill not just> > destroy the source of specially pure water, butthey will> > permanently contaminate the 2 rivers so they willnever again be> > fit for human or animal consumption because of theuse of cyanide> > and sulphuric acid in the extraction process.Every last gramme of> > gold will go abroad to the multinational companyand not one will be> > left with the people whose land it is.They willonly be left with> > the poisoned water and the

resultingillnesses. Thefarmers have been> > fighting a long time for their land, but have beenforbidden to make> > a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of theInterior. Their only> > hope now of putting brakes on this project is toget helpfrom> > international justice. The world must know what ishappening in> > Chile. The only place to start changing the worldis from here. We> > ask you to circulate this message amongst yourfriends in> > thefollowing way. Please copy this text, paste itinto a new> > emailadding your signature and send it to everyonein your address> > book. Please will the 100th person to receive andsign the petition> > send it tonoapascualama to be forwardedto the Chilean> > government. No to Pascua Lama Open-cast mine inthe Andean> > Cordillera on the Chilean-Argentine frontier.

Weask the Chilean> > Government not to authorize thePascua Lamaprojecttoprotect the> > whole of 3 glaciers, the purity of thewater of theSanFelixValley> > and El Transito, the quality of theagriculturalland of theregionof> > Atacama, the quality of life of the Diaguitapeopleand of the> > wholepopulation of the region. Signature, City,Country 1) Katharine> > Proudfoot, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK 2) Laura Cole,London, UK 3)> > David Platt, London, UK 4) Diane Platt,Manchester, UK 5) Tanya> > Corker, Manchester, UK 6) Nicola Hargreaves, UK 7)Nicholas Jones,> > UK 8)Johann Don-Daniel, Germany 9)Ashley Berger,Germany 10) Sarah> > Downie, Leeds, UK 11) Paula Delahunty, Bingley, UK12) John> > O'Driscoll, Bingley, Uk 13) Jordan-Lee Delahunty,Bingley, UK 14)> > Claire Mulvey, Bradford, UK 15) Marie MalcolmBradford,

UK 16) Ann> > Clowes, Halifax UK 17) Jayne McGee, Brighouse UK18) Jason Barratt> > Oldham UK 19; Lindsay Torrance, Rochdale UK 20 )Maggie Ford,> > Rochdale 21) Barry Cook, Todmorden 22) ShelleyBUrgoyne,> > Todmorden 23) Libby Ray, Shipley, England 24) AnneMeynell,> > Bradford, England 25) Jim Meynell, Bradford,England 26) Alec> > Knibbs, Kings Lynn, England 27) Suzanne Bailey,Valencia, Spain 28)> > Agnieszka Legierska, London, England 29) RosannaBennett-Moncrieff,> > Bristol England 30) Kirsten Bennett-Moncrieff,Bristol, England 31)> > Stephen Haley, Silsoe, England 32) Rob Smith,Bristol, England 33)> > Basil Anderson, Bristol, England 34) JonathanColes, Bristol> > England 35) Deborah Weinreb, Bristol England 36)Peter Osborne,> > Somerset, England 37) Klaran O-Connor, Bristol,England 38) Rowan> >

Brunton, Bristol, England 39) Nick Roberts,Bristol, England 40)> > Peter Green, Bath, England 41) Paula Dwyer,Staffs, England> >> >> >> >> >> >

May 17, 2006

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" Paul Russell " <prussell

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:14 PM

Re: very important campaign about the environment