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Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes (online

or on the high street) for my little lad?

 

Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past...

 

 

Cheers,

James

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Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but

I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything

 

Paul

 

On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

 

> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

> (online

> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>

> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past...

>

>

> Cheers,

> James

>

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The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - mail

order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in them

before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

 

Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their school

shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I

could get some better quality ones...

 

Cheers,

James

 

Paul Russell wrote:

>

> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but

> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything

>

> Paul

>

> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>

> > Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

> > (online

> > or on the high street) for my little lad?

> >

> > Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past...

> >

> >

> > Cheers,

> > James

> >

> >

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> > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

> > there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

> > -------------------------

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Thanks James -

 

I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which

was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

anything like that in the UK.

 

Cheers,

 

Paul

 

On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

 

> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 -

> mail

> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in

> them

> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

>

> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their

> school

> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I

> could get some better quality ones...

>

> Cheers,

> James

>

> Paul Russell wrote:

>>

>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but

>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything

>>

>> Paul

>>

>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>>

>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

>>> (online

>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>>>

>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

>>> past...

>>>

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> James

>>>

>>>

>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>>> -------------------------

>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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>>> <%40>

>>>

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Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and there's

loads of synthetic ones.

http://www.shoezone.net/ - not sure where you live but there's a store

finder on their site

 

It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell mostly

synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, but they

only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm

 

Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what you'll

find...

 

Carole

 

 

On Behalf

Of Paul Russell

30 August 2006 19:04

 

Re: Kids' shoes

 

 

Thanks James -

 

I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which

was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

anything like that in the UK.

 

Cheers,

 

Paul

 

On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

 

> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 -

> mail

> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in

> them

> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

>

> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their

> school

> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I

> could get some better quality ones...

>

> Cheers,

> James

>

> Paul Russell wrote:

>>

>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but

>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything

>>

>> Paul

>>

>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>>

>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

>>> (online

>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>>>

>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

>>> past...

>>>

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> James

>>>

>>>

>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>>> -------------------------

>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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>>>

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Thanks Carole -

 

I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give

them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

 

Cheers,

 

Paul

 

On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

 

> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and

> there's

> loads of synthetic ones.

> http://www.shoezone.net/ - not sure where you live but there's a store

> finder on their site

>

> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell

> mostly

> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site,

> but they

> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm

>

> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what

> you'll

> find...

>

> Carole

>

>

> On

> Behalf

> Of Paul Russell

> 30 August 2006 19:04

>

> Re: Kids' shoes

>

>

> Thanks James -

>

> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which

> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

> anything like that in the UK.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Paul

>

> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

>

>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 -

>> mail

>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in

>> them

>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

>>

>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their

>> school

>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I

>> could get some better quality ones...

>>

>> Cheers,

>> James

>>

>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>

>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before

>>> but

>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything

>>>

>>> Paul

>>>

>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>>>

>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

>>>> (online

>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>>>>

>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

>>>> past...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Cheers,

>>>> James

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>>>> -------------------------

>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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>>>> <%40>

>>>>

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Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes?

 

I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones don't

use animal-derived glues?...

 

I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots, I got

some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully

aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck when I

mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I

can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!).

 

Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard

contrasting opinions on them...

 

Cheers,

James

 

Paul Russell wrote:

>

> Thanks Carole -

>

> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give

> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Paul

>

> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

>

> > Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and

> > there's

> > loads of synthetic ones.

> > http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> - not sure where

> you live but there's a store

> > finder on their site

> >

> > It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell

> > mostly

> > synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site,

> > but they

> > only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

> > http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>

> >

> > Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what

> > you'll

> > find...

> >

> > Carole

> >

> >

> > <%40>

> [ <%40>]On

> > Behalf

> > Of Paul Russell

> > 30 August 2006 19:04

> > <%40>

> > Re: Kids' shoes

> >

> >

> > Thanks James -

> >

> > I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

> > orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

> > lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which

> > was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

> > made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

> > anything like that in the UK.

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Paul

> >

> > On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

> >

> >> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 -

> >> mail

> >> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in

> >> them

> >> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

> >> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

> >>

> >> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their

> >> school

> >> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I

> >> could get some better quality ones...

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >> James

> >>

> >> Paul Russell wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

> >>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before

> >>> but

> >>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything

> >>>

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

> >>>> (online

> >>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

> >>>>

> >>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

> >>>> past...

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Cheers,

> >>>> James

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

> >>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

> >>>> -------------------------

> >>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

> >>>> Un: send a blank message to -

> >>>>

> <%40>

> <%40>

> >>>>

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Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on

the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about

listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't

guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product

(presumably it varies).

 

As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue -

better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but

then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will

never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on

currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for

Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive

legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports

about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to endure.

 

Paul

 

On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote:

 

> Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes?

>

> I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones

> don't

> use animal-derived glues?...

>

> I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots,

> I got

> some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully

> aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck

> when I

> mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I

> can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!).

>

> Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard

> contrasting opinions on them...

>

> Cheers,

> James

>

> Paul Russell wrote:

>>

>> Thanks Carole -

>>

>> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give

>> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>> Paul

>>

>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

>>

>>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and

>>> there's

>>> loads of synthetic ones.

>>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> - not sure where

>> you live but there's a store

>>> finder on their site

>>>

>>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell

>>> mostly

>>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site,

>>> but they

>>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

>>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>

>>>

>>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what

>>> you'll

>>> find...

>>>

>>> Carole

>>>

>>>

>>> <%40>

>> [ <%40>]On

>>> Behalf

>>> Of Paul Russell

>>> 30 August 2006 19:04

>>> <%40>

>>> Re: Kids' shoes

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks James -

>>>

>>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

>>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

>>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store

>>> which

>>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

>>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

>>> anything like that in the UK.

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>>

>>> Paul

>>>

>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

>>>

>>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 -

>>>> mail

>>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in

>>>> them

>>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

>>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

>>>>

>>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their

>>>> school

>>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know

>>>> where I

>>>> could get some better quality ones...

>>>>

>>>> Cheers,

>>>> James

>>>>

>>>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

>>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before

>>>>> but

>>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find

>>>>> anything

>>>>>

>>>>> Paul

>>>>>

>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

>>>>>> (online

>>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

>>>>>> past...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>> James

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

>>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>>>>>> -------------------------

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>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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>> <%40>

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Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com

seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids

school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes

from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services, and

the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never heard

of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on

whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue...

 

I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass

shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html might

be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also waiting

for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you know...

 

BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that

Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to start

making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a fantastic pair

of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few weeks time...

 

Cheers,

James

 

Paul Russell wrote:

>

> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on

> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about

> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't

> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product

> (presumably it varies).

>

> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue -

> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but

> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will

> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on

> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for

> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive

> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports

> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to endure.

>

> Paul

>

> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote:

>

> > Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes?

> >

> > I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones

> > don't

> > use animal-derived glues?...

> >

> > I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots,

> > I got

> > some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully

> > aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck

> > when I

> > mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I

> > can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!).

> >

> > Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard

> > contrasting opinions on them...

> >

> > Cheers,

> > James

> >

> > Paul Russell wrote:

> >>

> >> Thanks Carole -

> >>

> >> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give

> >> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >>

> >> Paul

> >>

> >> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

> >>

> >>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and

> >>> there's

> >>> loads of synthetic ones.

> >>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>

> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> - not sure where

> >> you live but there's a store

> >>> finder on their site

> >>>

> >>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell

> >>> mostly

> >>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site,

> >>> but they

> >>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

> >>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>

> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>

> >>>

> >>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what

> >>> you'll

> >>> find...

> >>>

> >>> Carole

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> <%40>

> <%40>

> >> [ <%40>

> <%40>]On

> >>> Behalf

> >>> Of Paul Russell

> >>> 30 August 2006 19:04

> >>> <%40>

> <%40>

> >>> Re: Kids' shoes

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Thanks James -

> >>>

> >>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

> >>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

> >>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store

> >>> which

> >>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

> >>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

> >>> anything like that in the UK.

> >>>

> >>> Cheers,

> >>>

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 -

> >>>> mail

> >>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in

> >>>> them

> >>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

> >>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

> >>>>

> >>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their

> >>>> school

> >>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know

> >>>> where I

> >>>> could get some better quality ones...

> >>>>

> >>>> Cheers,

> >>>> James

> >>>>

> >>>> Paul Russell wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

> >>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before

> >>>>> but

> >>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find

> >>>>> anything

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Paul

> >>>>>

> >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

> >>>>>> (online

> >>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

> >>>>>> past...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Cheers,

> >>>>>> James

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

> >>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

> >>>>>> -------------------------

> >>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >>>>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

> >>>>>> Un: send a blank message to -

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> >> <%40>

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Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids synthetic

shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was dead

certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted!

 

James H wrote:

> Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com

> seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids

> school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes

> from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services, and

> the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never heard

> of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on

> whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue...

>

> I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass

> shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html

> might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also

> waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you know...

>

> BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that

> Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to

> start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a

> fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few

> weeks time...

>

> Cheers,

> James

>

> Paul Russell wrote:

>>

>> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on

>> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about

>> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't

>> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product

>> (presumably it varies).

>>

>> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue -

>> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but

>> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will

>> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on

>> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for

>> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive

>> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports

>> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to endure.

>>

>> Paul

>>

>> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote:

>>

>> > Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes?

>> >

>> > I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones

>> > don't

>> > use animal-derived glues?...

>> >

>> > I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots,

>> > I got

>> > some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully

>> > aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck

>> > when I

>> > mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I

>> > can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!).

>> >

>> > Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard

>> > contrasting opinions on them...

>> >

>> > Cheers,

>> > James

>> >

>> > Paul Russell wrote:

>> >>

>> >> Thanks Carole -

>> >>

>> >> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give

>> >> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

>> >>

>> >> Cheers,

>> >>

>> >> Paul

>> >>

>> >> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

>> >>

>> >>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and

>> >>> there's

>> >>> loads of synthetic ones.

>> >>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>

>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> - not sure where

>> >> you live but there's a store

>> >>> finder on their site

>> >>>

>> >>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell

>> >>> mostly

>> >>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site,

>> >>> but they

>> >>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

>> >>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>

>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>

>> >>>

>> >>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what

>> >>> you'll

>> >>> find...

>> >>>

>> >>> Carole

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> <%40>

>> <%40>

>> >> [ <%40>

>> <%40>]On

>> >>> Behalf

>> >>> Of Paul Russell

>> >>> 30 August 2006 19:04

>> >>> <%40>

>> <%40>

>> >>> Re: Kids' shoes

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> Thanks James -

>> >>>

>> >>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

>> >>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

>> >>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store

>> >>> which

>> >>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

>> >>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

>> >>> anything like that in the UK.

>> >>>

>> >>> Cheers,

>> >>>

>> >>> Paul

>> >>>

>> >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 -

>> >>>> mail

>> >>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in

>> >>>> them

>> >>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they

>> >>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there...

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their

>> >>>> school

>> >>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know

>> >>>> where I

>> >>>> could get some better quality ones...

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Cheers,

>> >>>> James

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Paul Russell wrote:

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

>> >>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before

>> >>>>> but

>> >>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find

>> >>>>> anything

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Paul

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

>> >>>>>> (online

>> >>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

>> >>>>>> past...

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> Cheers,

>> >>>>>> James

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> >>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

>> >>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>> >>>>>> -------------------------

>> >>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Excellent research there James - thanks very much. Looks like we'll

be shoe shopping on Monday (oh joy !).

 

Regards,

 

Paul

 

On 1 Sep 2006, at 12:41, James H wrote:

 

> Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids synthetic

> shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was dead

> certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted!

>

> James H wrote:

>> Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com

>> seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids

>> school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes

>> from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services,

>> and

>> the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never

>> heard

>> of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on

>> whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue...

>>

>> I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass

>> shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html

>> might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also

>> waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you

>> know...

>>

>> BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that

>> Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to

>> start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a

>> fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few

>> weeks time...

>>

>> Cheers,

>> James

>>

>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>

>>> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on

>>> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about

>>> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't

>>> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product

>>> (presumably it varies).

>>>

>>> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue -

>>> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but

>>> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will

>>> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on

>>> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for

>>> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive

>>> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports

>>> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to

>>> endure.

>>>

>>> Paul

>>>

>>> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote:

>>>

>>>> Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes?

>>>>

>>>> I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones

>>>> don't

>>>> use animal-derived glues?...

>>>>

>>>> I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots,

>>>> I got

>>>> some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem

>>>> fully

>>>> aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck

>>>> when I

>>>> mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years,

>>>> but I

>>>> can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on

>>>> Tuesday!!).

>>>>

>>>> Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've

>>>> heard

>>>> contrasting opinions on them...

>>>>

>>>> Cheers,

>>>> James

>>>>

>>>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks Carole -

>>>>>

>>>>> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll

>>>>> give

>>>>> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

>>>>>

>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>

>>>>> Paul

>>>>>

>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and

>>>>>> there's

>>>>>> loads of synthetic ones.

>>>>>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>

>>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> - not sure

>>> where

>>>>> you live but there's a store

>>>>>> finder on their site

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell

>>>>>> mostly

>>>>>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site,

>>>>>> but they

>>>>>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

>>>>>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>

>>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know

>>>>>> what

>>>>>> you'll

>>>>>> find...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Carole

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> <%40>

>>> <%40>

>>>>> [ <%40>

>>> <%40>]On

>>>>>> Behalf

>>>>>> Of Paul Russell

>>>>>> 30 August 2006 19:04

>>>>>> <%40>

>>> <%40>

>>>>>> Re: Kids' shoes

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks James -

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

>>>>>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

>>>>>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store

>>>>>> which

>>>>>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

>>>>>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

>>>>>> anything like that in the UK.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Paul

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297

>>>>>>> 631133 -

>>>>>>> mail

>>>>>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got

>>>>>>> holes in

>>>>>>> them

>>>>>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing.

>>>>>>> But they

>>>>>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from

>>>>>>> there...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say

>>>>>>> their

>>>>>>> school

>>>>>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know

>>>>>>> where I

>>>>>>> could get some better quality ones...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>> James

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any

>>>>>>>> more

>>>>>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up

>>>>>>>> before

>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find

>>>>>>>> anything

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Paul

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school

>>>>>>>>> shoes

>>>>>>>>> (online

>>>>>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

>>>>>>>>> past...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>>>> James

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>>>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the

>>>>>>>>> author,

>>>>>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>>>>>>>>> -------------------------

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>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>>>>>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

>>>>>>>>> Un: send a blank message to -

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Woolworth's and stead and simpson are good bets too...

 

Kerry xx

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Paul Russell

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:10 PM

Re: Kids' shoes

 

 

Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more

unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but

I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything

 

Paul

 

On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

 

> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes

> (online

> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>

> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past...

>

>

> Cheers,

> James

>

>

> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

> -------------------------

> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

> Un: send a blank message to -

>

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Cheers! And ShoeZone got back to me as well. Their Spiderman shoe

(http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20188.html ) is vegan

as well (probably amongst others). That's what we ended up buying. My

little lad was chuffed to bits - it's even got flashing lights on the

sole as well! He can't wait to get back to school now so he can show

them off!...

 

Paul Russell wrote:

>

> Excellent research there James - thanks very much. Looks like we'll

> be shoe shopping on Monday (oh joy !).

>

> Regards,

>

> Paul

>

> On 1 Sep 2006, at 12:41, James H wrote:

>

> > Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids synthetic

> > shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was dead

> > certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted!

> >

> > James H wrote:

> >> Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com

> >> seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids

> >> school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes

> >> from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services,

> >> and

> >> the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never

> >> heard

> >> of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on

> >> whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue...

> >>

> >> I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass

> >> shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html

> <http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html>

> >> might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also

> >> waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you

> >> know...

> >>

> >> BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that

> >> Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to

> >> start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a

> >> fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few

> >> weeks time...

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >> James

> >>

> >> Paul Russell wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on

> >>> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about

> >>> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't

> >>> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product

> >>> (presumably it varies).

> >>>

> >>> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue -

> >>> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but

> >>> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will

> >>> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on

> >>> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for

> >>> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive

> >>> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports

> >>> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to

> >>> endure.

> >>>

> >>> Paul

> >>>

> >>> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes?

> >>>>

> >>>> I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones

> >>>> don't

> >>>> use animal-derived glues?...

> >>>>

> >>>> I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots,

> >>>> I got

> >>>> some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem

> >>>> fully

> >>>> aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck

> >>>> when I

> >>>> mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years,

> >>>> but I

> >>>> can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on

> >>>> Tuesday!!).

> >>>>

> >>>> Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've

> >>>> heard

> >>>> contrasting opinions on them...

> >>>>

> >>>> Cheers,

> >>>> James

> >>>>

> >>>> Paul Russell wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thanks Carole -

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll

> >>>>> give

> >>>>> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Cheers,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Paul

> >>>>>

> >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and

> >>>>>> there's

> >>>>>> loads of synthetic ones.

> >>>>>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>

> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>>

> >>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>

> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>>> - not sure

> >>> where

> >>>>> you live but there's a store

> >>>>>> finder on their site

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell

> >>>>>> mostly

> >>>>>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site,

> >>>>>> but they

> >>>>>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

> >>>>>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm

> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm

> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>

> >>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>

> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know

> >>>>>> what

> >>>>>> you'll

> >>>>>> find...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Carole

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> <%40> <%40>

> >>> <%40>

> >>>>> [

> <%40> <%40>

> >>> <%40>]On

> >>>>>> Behalf

> >>>>>> Of Paul Russell

> >>>>>> 30 August 2006 19:04

> >>>>>> <%40>

> <%40>

> >>> <%40>

> >>>>>> Re: Kids' shoes

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Thanks James -

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

> >>>>>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we

> >>>>>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store

> >>>>>> which

> >>>>>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably

> >>>>>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

> >>>>>> anything like that in the UK.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Cheers,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Paul

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297

> >>>>>>> 631133 -

> >>>>>>> mail

> >>>>>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got

> >>>>>>> holes in

> >>>>>>> them

> >>>>>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing.

> >>>>>>> But they

> >>>>>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from

> >>>>>>> there...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say

> >>>>>>> their

> >>>>>>> school

> >>>>>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know

> >>>>>>> where I

> >>>>>>> could get some better quality ones...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Cheers,

> >>>>>>> James

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Paul Russell wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any

> >>>>>>>> more

> >>>>>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up

> >>>>>>>> before

> >>>>>>>> but

> >>>>>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find

> >>>>>>>> anything

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Paul

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school

> >>>>>>>>> shoes

> >>>>>>>>> (online

> >>>>>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the

> >>>>>>>>> past...

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,

> >>>>>>>>> James

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >>>>>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the

> >>>>>>>>> author,

> >>>>>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------

> >>>>>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

> >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Yes, I looked at the Spiderman shoes with my son in Shoe Zone today

but I couldn't persuade hpm that it would make a good school shoe. We

also tried BHS (no luck at all), and then finally Woolworth, where we

did actually manage to find a pair of non-leather shoes which worked

with his insoles and which are fine for school (and they don't have

flashing lights !). 8 quid. If they'd had any more I'd have bought

another pair.

 

Cheers,

 

Paul

 

On 4 Sep 2006, at 21:49, James H wrote:

 

> Cheers! And ShoeZone got back to me as well. Their Spiderman shoe

> (http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20188.html ) is vegan

> as well (probably amongst others). That's what we ended up buying. My

> little lad was chuffed to bits - it's even got flashing lights on the

> sole as well! He can't wait to get back to school now so he can show

> them off!...

>

> Paul Russell wrote:

>>

>> Excellent research there James - thanks very much. Looks like we'll

>> be shoe shopping on Monday (oh joy !).

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Paul

>>

>> On 1 Sep 2006, at 12:41, James H wrote:

>>

>>> Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids

>>> synthetic

>>> shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was

>>> dead

>>> certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted!

>>>

>>> James H wrote:

>>>> Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and

>>>> veganline.com

>>>> seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids

>>>> school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids

>>>> shoes

>>>> from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services,

>>>> and

>>>> the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never

>>>> heard

>>>> of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on

>>>> whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue...

>>>>

>>>> I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US

>>>> Brass

>>>> shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html

>> <http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html>

>>>> might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also

>>>> waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you

>>>> know...

>>>>

>>>> BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out

>>>> that

>>>> Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to

>>>> start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a

>>>> fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few

>>>> weeks time...

>>>>

>>>> Cheers,

>>>> James

>>>>

>>>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never

>>>>> carried on

>>>>> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about

>>>>> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't

>>>>> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product

>>>>> (presumably it varies).

>>>>>

>>>>> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white

>>>>> issue -

>>>>> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but

>>>>> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions

>>>>> will

>>>>> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on

>>>>> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for

>>>>> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive

>>>>> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports

>>>>> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to

>>>>> endure.

>>>>>

>>>>> Paul

>>>>>

>>>>> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones

>>>>>> don't

>>>>>> use animal-derived glues?...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football

>>>>>> boots,

>>>>>> I got

>>>>>> some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem

>>>>>> fully

>>>>>> aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck

>>>>>> when I

>>>>>> mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years,

>>>>>> but I

>>>>>> can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on

>>>>>> Tuesday!!).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've

>>>>>> heard

>>>>>> contrasting opinions on them...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>> James

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks Carole -

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll

>>>>>>> give

>>>>>>> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Paul

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in

>>>>>>>> there and

>>>>>>>> there's

>>>>>>>> loads of synthetic ones.

>>>>>>>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>

>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>>

>>>>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>

>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>>> - not sure

>>>>> where

>>>>>>> you live but there's a store

>>>>>>>> finder on their site

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to

>>>>>>>> sell

>>>>>>>> mostly

>>>>>>>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their

>>>>>>>> site,

>>>>>>>> but they

>>>>>>>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder:

>>>>>>>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm

>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm

>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>

>>>>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>

>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know

>>>>>>>> what

>>>>>>>> you'll

>>>>>>>> find...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Carole

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>> [

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>>>>> <%40>]On

>>>>>>>> Behalf

>>>>>>>> Of Paul Russell

>>>>>>>> 30 August 2006 19:04

>>>>>>>> <%40>

>> <%40>

>>>>> <%40>

>>>>>>>> Re: Kids' shoes

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks James -

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears

>>>>>>>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy.

>>>>>>>> When we

>>>>>>>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store

>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic

>>>>>>>> (probably

>>>>>>>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be

>>>>>>>> anything like that in the UK.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Paul

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297

>>>>>>>>> 631133 -

>>>>>>>>> mail

>>>>>>>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got

>>>>>>>>> holes in

>>>>>>>>> them

>>>>>>>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing.

>>>>>>>>> But they

>>>>>>>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from

>>>>>>>>> there...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say

>>>>>>>>> their

>>>>>>>>> school

>>>>>>>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know

>>>>>>>>> where I

>>>>>>>>> could get some better quality ones...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>>>> James

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Paul Russell wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any

>>>>>>>>>> more

>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up

>>>>>>>>>> before

>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find

>>>>>>>>>> anything

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Paul

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school

>>>>>>>>>>> shoes

>>>>>>>>>>> (online

>>>>>>>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> past...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>>>>>> James

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

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