Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes (online or on the high street) for my little lad? Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past... Cheers, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything Paul On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes > (online > or on the high street) for my little lad? > > Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past... > > > Cheers, > James > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - mail order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in them before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their school shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I could get some better quality ones... Cheers, James Paul Russell wrote: > > Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more > unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but > I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything > > Paul > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes > > (online > > or on the high street) for my little lad? > > > > Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past... > > > > > > Cheers, > > James > > > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > > ------------------------- > > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > > Un: send a blank message to - > > <%40> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Thanks James - I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be anything like that in the UK. Cheers, Paul On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: > The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - > mail > order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in > them > before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they > lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... > > Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their > school > shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I > could get some better quality ones... > > Cheers, > James > > Paul Russell wrote: >> >> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more >> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but >> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything >> >> Paul >> >> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes >>> (online >>> or on the high street) for my little lad? >>> >>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the >>> past... >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> James >>> >>> >>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>> ------------------------- >>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >>> Un: send a blank message to - >>> <%40> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and there's loads of synthetic ones. http://www.shoezone.net/ - not sure where you live but there's a store finder on their site It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell mostly synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, but they only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what you'll find... Carole On Behalf Of Paul Russell 30 August 2006 19:04 Re: Kids' shoes Thanks James - I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be anything like that in the UK. Cheers, Paul On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: > The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - > mail > order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in > them > before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they > lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... > > Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their > school > shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I > could get some better quality ones... > > Cheers, > James > > Paul Russell wrote: >> >> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more >> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but >> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything >> >> Paul >> >> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes >>> (online >>> or on the high street) for my little lad? >>> >>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the >>> past... >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> James >>> >>> >>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>> ------------------------- >>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >>> Un: send a blank message to - >>> <%40> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Thanks Carole - I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. Cheers, Paul On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: > Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and > there's > loads of synthetic ones. > http://www.shoezone.net/ - not sure where you live but there's a store > finder on their site > > It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell > mostly > synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, > but they > only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: > http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm > > Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what > you'll > find... > > Carole > > > On > Behalf > Of Paul Russell > 30 August 2006 19:04 > > Re: Kids' shoes > > > Thanks James - > > I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears > orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we > lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which > was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably > made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be > anything like that in the UK. > > Cheers, > > Paul > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: > >> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - >> mail >> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in >> them >> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they >> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... >> >> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their >> school >> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I >> could get some better quality ones... >> >> Cheers, >> James >> >> Paul Russell wrote: >>> >>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more >>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before >>> but >>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: >>> >>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes >>>> (online >>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? >>>> >>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the >>>> past... >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>>> ------------------------- >>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >>>> Un: send a blank message to - >>>> <%40> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes? I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones don't use animal-derived glues?... I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots, I got some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck when I mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!). Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard contrasting opinions on them... Cheers, James Paul Russell wrote: > > Thanks Carole - > > I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give > them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. > > Cheers, > > Paul > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: > > > Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and > > there's > > loads of synthetic ones. > > http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> - not sure where > you live but there's a store > > finder on their site > > > > It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell > > mostly > > synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, > > but they > > only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: > > http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> > > > > Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what > > you'll > > find... > > > > Carole > > > > > > <%40> > [ <%40>]On > > Behalf > > Of Paul Russell > > 30 August 2006 19:04 > > <%40> > > Re: Kids' shoes > > > > > > Thanks James - > > > > I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears > > orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we > > lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store which > > was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably > > made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be > > anything like that in the UK. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Paul > > > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: > > > >> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - > >> mail > >> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in > >> them > >> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they > >> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... > >> > >> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their > >> school > >> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know where I > >> could get some better quality ones... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> James > >> > >> Paul Russell wrote: > >>> > >>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more > >>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before > >>> but > >>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: > >>> > >>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes > >>>> (online > >>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? > >>>> > >>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the > >>>> past... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> James > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > >>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > >>>> ------------------------- > >>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > >>>> Un: send a blank message to - > >>>> > <%40> > <%40> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product (presumably it varies). As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue - better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to endure. Paul On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote: > Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes? > > I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones > don't > use animal-derived glues?... > > I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots, > I got > some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully > aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck > when I > mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I > can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!). > > Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard > contrasting opinions on them... > > Cheers, > James > > Paul Russell wrote: >> >> Thanks Carole - >> >> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give >> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul >> >> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: >> >>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and >>> there's >>> loads of synthetic ones. >>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> - not sure where >> you live but there's a store >>> finder on their site >>> >>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell >>> mostly >>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, >>> but they >>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: >>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> >>> >>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what >>> you'll >>> find... >>> >>> Carole >>> >>> >>> <%40> >> [ <%40>]On >>> Behalf >>> Of Paul Russell >>> 30 August 2006 19:04 >>> <%40> >>> Re: Kids' shoes >>> >>> >>> Thanks James - >>> >>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears >>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we >>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store >>> which >>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably >>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be >>> anything like that in the UK. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: >>> >>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - >>>> mail >>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in >>>> them >>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they >>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... >>>> >>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their >>>> school >>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know >>>> where I >>>> could get some better quality ones... >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> James >>>> >>>> Paul Russell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more >>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before >>>>> but >>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find >>>>> anything >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes >>>>>> (online >>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? >>>>>> >>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the >>>>>> past... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> James >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>>>>> ------------------------- >>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> >>>>>> Un: send a blank message to - >>>>>> >> <%40> >> <%40> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services, and the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never heard of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue... I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you know... BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few weeks time... Cheers, James Paul Russell wrote: > > Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on > the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about > listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't > guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product > (presumably it varies). > > As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue - > better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but > then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will > never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on > currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for > Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive > legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports > about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to endure. > > Paul > > On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote: > > > Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes? > > > > I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones > > don't > > use animal-derived glues?... > > > > I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots, > > I got > > some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully > > aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck > > when I > > mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I > > can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!). > > > > Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard > > contrasting opinions on them... > > > > Cheers, > > James > > > > Paul Russell wrote: > >> > >> Thanks Carole - > >> > >> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give > >> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: > >> > >>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and > >>> there's > >>> loads of synthetic ones. > >>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> > <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> - not sure where > >> you live but there's a store > >>> finder on their site > >>> > >>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell > >>> mostly > >>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, > >>> but they > >>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: > >>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> > <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>> > >>> > >>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what > >>> you'll > >>> find... > >>> > >>> Carole > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40> > <%40> > >> [ <%40> > <%40>]On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of Paul Russell > >>> 30 August 2006 19:04 > >>> <%40> > <%40> > >>> Re: Kids' shoes > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks James - > >>> > >>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears > >>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we > >>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store > >>> which > >>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably > >>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be > >>> anything like that in the UK. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: > >>> > >>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - > >>>> mail > >>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in > >>>> them > >>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they > >>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... > >>>> > >>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their > >>>> school > >>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know > >>>> where I > >>>> could get some better quality ones... > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> James > >>>> > >>>> Paul Russell wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more > >>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before > >>>>> but > >>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find > >>>>> anything > >>>>> > >>>>> Paul > >>>>> > >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes > >>>>>> (online > >>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the > >>>>>> past... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> James > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > >>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > >>>>>> ------------------------- > >>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > >>>>>> Un: send a blank message to - > >>>>>> <%40> > >> <%40> > >> <%40> > >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids synthetic shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was dead certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted! James H wrote: > Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com > seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids > school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes > from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services, and > the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never heard > of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on > whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue... > > I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass > shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html > might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also > waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you know... > > BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that > Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to > start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a > fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few > weeks time... > > Cheers, > James > > Paul Russell wrote: >> >> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on >> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about >> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't >> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product >> (presumably it varies). >> >> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue - >> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but >> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will >> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on >> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for >> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive >> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports >> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to endure. >> >> Paul >> >> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote: >> >> > Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes? >> > >> > I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones >> > don't >> > use animal-derived glues?... >> > >> > I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots, >> > I got >> > some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem fully >> > aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck >> > when I >> > mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, but I >> > can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on Tuesday!!). >> > >> > Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've heard >> > contrasting opinions on them... >> > >> > Cheers, >> > James >> > >> > Paul Russell wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks Carole - >> >> >> >> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll give >> >> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: >> >> >> >>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and >> >>> there's >> >>> loads of synthetic ones. >> >>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> >> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> - not sure where >> >> you live but there's a store >> >>> finder on their site >> >>> >> >>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell >> >>> mostly >> >>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, >> >>> but they >> >>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: >> >>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> >> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>> >> >>> >> >>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know what >> >>> you'll >> >>> find... >> >>> >> >>> Carole >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> <%40> >> <%40> >> >> [ <%40> >> <%40>]On >> >>> Behalf >> >>> Of Paul Russell >> >>> 30 August 2006 19:04 >> >>> <%40> >> <%40> >> >>> Re: Kids' shoes >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thanks James - >> >>> >> >>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears >> >>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we >> >>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store >> >>> which >> >>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably >> >>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be >> >>> anything like that in the UK. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> Paul >> >>> >> >>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 631133 - >> >>>> mail >> >>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got holes in >> >>>> them >> >>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. But they >> >>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from there... >> >>>> >> >>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say their >> >>>> school >> >>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know >> >>>> where I >> >>>> could get some better quality ones... >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> James >> >>>> >> >>>> Paul Russell wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more >> >>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before >> >>>>> but >> >>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find >> >>>>> anything >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Paul >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes >> >>>>>> (online >> >>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the >> >>>>>> past... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>> James >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, >> >>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >> >>>>>> ------------------------- >> >>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Excellent research there James - thanks very much. Looks like we'll be shoe shopping on Monday (oh joy !). Regards, Paul On 1 Sep 2006, at 12:41, James H wrote: > Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids synthetic > shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was dead > certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted! > > James H wrote: >> Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com >> seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids >> school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes >> from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services, >> and >> the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never >> heard >> of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on >> whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue... >> >> I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass >> shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html >> might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also >> waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you >> know... >> >> BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that >> Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to >> start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a >> fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few >> weeks time... >> >> Cheers, >> James >> >> Paul Russell wrote: >>> >>> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on >>> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about >>> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't >>> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product >>> (presumably it varies). >>> >>> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue - >>> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but >>> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will >>> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on >>> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for >>> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive >>> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports >>> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to >>> endure. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote: >>> >>>> Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes? >>>> >>>> I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones >>>> don't >>>> use animal-derived glues?... >>>> >>>> I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots, >>>> I got >>>> some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem >>>> fully >>>> aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck >>>> when I >>>> mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, >>>> but I >>>> can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on >>>> Tuesday!!). >>>> >>>> Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've >>>> heard >>>> contrasting opinions on them... >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> James >>>> >>>> Paul Russell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Carole - >>>>> >>>>> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll >>>>> give >>>>> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and >>>>>> there's >>>>>> loads of synthetic ones. >>>>>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> >>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> - not sure >>> where >>>>> you live but there's a store >>>>>> finder on their site >>>>>> >>>>>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell >>>>>> mostly >>>>>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, >>>>>> but they >>>>>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: >>>>>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> >>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know >>>>>> what >>>>>> you'll >>>>>> find... >>>>>> >>>>>> Carole >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <%40> >>> <%40> >>>>> [ <%40> >>> <%40>]On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of Paul Russell >>>>>> 30 August 2006 19:04 >>>>>> <%40> >>> <%40> >>>>>> Re: Kids' shoes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks James - >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears >>>>>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we >>>>>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store >>>>>> which >>>>>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably >>>>>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be >>>>>> anything like that in the UK. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 >>>>>>> 631133 - >>>>>>> mail >>>>>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got >>>>>>> holes in >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. >>>>>>> But they >>>>>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from >>>>>>> there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> school >>>>>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know >>>>>>> where I >>>>>>> could get some better quality ones... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul Russell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up >>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find >>>>>>>> anything >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school >>>>>>>>> shoes >>>>>>>>> (online >>>>>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the >>>>>>>>> past... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the >>>>>>>>> author, >>>>>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>>>>>>>> ------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Woolworth's and stead and simpson are good bets too... Kerry xx - Paul Russell Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:10 PM Re: Kids' shoes Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any more unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up before but I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find anything Paul On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school shoes > (online > or on the high street) for my little lad? > > Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the past... > > > Cheers, > James > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > ------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Cheers! And ShoeZone got back to me as well. Their Spiderman shoe (http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20188.html ) is vegan as well (probably amongst others). That's what we ended up buying. My little lad was chuffed to bits - it's even got flashing lights on the sole as well! He can't wait to get back to school now so he can show them off!... Paul Russell wrote: > > Excellent research there James - thanks very much. Looks like we'll > be shoe shopping on Monday (oh joy !). > > Regards, > > Paul > > On 1 Sep 2006, at 12:41, James H wrote: > > > Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids synthetic > > shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was dead > > certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted! > > > > James H wrote: > >> Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and veganline.com > >> seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids > >> school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids shoes > >> from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services, > >> and > >> the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never > >> heard > >> of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on > >> whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue... > >> > >> I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US Brass > >> shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html > <http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html> > >> might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also > >> waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you > >> know... > >> > >> BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out that > >> Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to > >> start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a > >> fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few > >> weeks time... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> James > >> > >> Paul Russell wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never carried on > >>> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about > >>> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't > >>> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product > >>> (presumably it varies). > >>> > >>> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white issue - > >>> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but > >>> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions will > >>> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on > >>> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for > >>> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive > >>> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports > >>> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to > >>> endure. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote: > >>> > >>>> Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes? > >>>> > >>>> I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones > >>>> don't > >>>> use animal-derived glues?... > >>>> > >>>> I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football boots, > >>>> I got > >>>> some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem > >>>> fully > >>>> aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck > >>>> when I > >>>> mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, > >>>> but I > >>>> can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on > >>>> Tuesday!!). > >>>> > >>>> Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've > >>>> heard > >>>> contrasting opinions on them... > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> James > >>>> > >>>> Paul Russell wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks Carole - > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll > >>>>> give > >>>>> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Paul > >>>>> > >>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in there and > >>>>>> there's > >>>>>> loads of synthetic ones. > >>>>>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> > <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> > >>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> > <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>>> - not sure > >>> where > >>>>> you live but there's a store > >>>>>> finder on their site > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to sell > >>>>>> mostly > >>>>>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their site, > >>>>>> but they > >>>>>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: > >>>>>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm > <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm > <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>> > >>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> > <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know > >>>>>> what > >>>>>> you'll > >>>>>> find... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Carole > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > <%40> <%40> > >>> <%40> > >>>>> [ > <%40> <%40> > >>> <%40>]On > >>>>>> Behalf > >>>>>> Of Paul Russell > >>>>>> 30 August 2006 19:04 > >>>>>> <%40> > <%40> > >>> <%40> > >>>>>> Re: Kids' shoes > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks James - > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears > >>>>>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. When we > >>>>>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store > >>>>>> which > >>>>>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic (probably > >>>>>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be > >>>>>> anything like that in the UK. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paul > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 > >>>>>>> 631133 - > >>>>>>> mail > >>>>>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got > >>>>>>> holes in > >>>>>>> them > >>>>>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. > >>>>>>> But they > >>>>>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from > >>>>>>> there... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say > >>>>>>> their > >>>>>>> school > >>>>>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know > >>>>>>> where I > >>>>>>> could get some better quality ones... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>> James > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Paul Russell wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any > >>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up > >>>>>>>> before > >>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find > >>>>>>>> anything > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Paul > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school > >>>>>>>>> shoes > >>>>>>>>> (online > >>>>>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in the > >>>>>>>>> past... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>> James > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the > >>>>>>>>> author, > >>>>>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > >>>>>>>>> ------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Yes, I looked at the Spiderman shoes with my son in Shoe Zone today but I couldn't persuade hpm that it would make a good school shoe. We also tried BHS (no luck at all), and then finally Woolworth, where we did actually manage to find a pair of non-leather shoes which worked with his insoles and which are fine for school (and they don't have flashing lights !). 8 quid. If they'd had any more I'd have bought another pair. Cheers, Paul On 4 Sep 2006, at 21:49, James H wrote: > Cheers! And ShoeZone got back to me as well. Their Spiderman shoe > (http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20188.html ) is vegan > as well (probably amongst others). That's what we ended up buying. My > little lad was chuffed to bits - it's even got flashing lights on the > sole as well! He can't wait to get back to school now so he can show > them off!... > > Paul Russell wrote: >> >> Excellent research there James - thanks very much. Looks like we'll >> be shoe shopping on Monday (oh joy !). >> >> Regards, >> >> Paul >> >> On 1 Sep 2006, at 12:41, James H wrote: >> >>> Good news - BHS just got back to me. He says all their kids >>> synthetic >>> shoes are made with rubber glue, not animal-derived glue (he was >>> dead >>> certain). And we've a BHS in town so we should be sorted! >>> >>> James H wrote: >>>> Just spent a fair while searching on the internet, and >>>> veganline.com >>>> seems to be the only site I can find that does 'affordable' kids >>>> school... Interesting, they suggest it is healthier to buy kids >>>> shoes >>>> from Woolworths... I've just called Woolworth's customer services, >>>> and >>>> the guy on the other end was a bit clueless (seemingly had never >>>> heard >>>> of the word vegan before!) but they're going to get back to me on >>>> whether any of the kids shoes have non-animal-derived glue... >>>> >>>> I've looked at the shoezone web site and I've a feeling the US >>>> Brass >>>> shoe at http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html >> <http://www.shoezone.net/products.php/Boys/Shoes/20325.html> >>>> might be vegan cos I think we've bought that make before. But also >>>> waiting for shoezone and BHS to get back to me, so I'll let you >>>> know... >>>> >>>> BTW, contrary to what I said the other day, I've just found out >>>> that >>>> Total Liberation don't sell kids shoes any more. They're going to >>>> start making them instead, but I don't fancy paying £45 for a >>>> fantastic pair of lorica shoes that he's going to outgrow in a few >>>> weeks time... >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> James >>>> >>>> Paul Russell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, the glue is a tricky one - that information is never >>>>> carried on >>>>> the labelling, AFAIK. Even New Balance, who are pretty good about >>>>> listing which of their shoes are synthetic, say that they can't >>>>> guarantee what kind of glue will be used on any given product >>>>> (presumably it varies). >>>>> >>>>> As for sweat shops - yes, it's not exactly a black and white >>>>> issue - >>>>> better to have a sweat shop job than no job at all and starve, but >>>>> then if we don't put pressure on the suppliers then conditions >>>>> will >>>>> never improve in these factories. There's a big row going on >>>>> currently about the conditions in which iPods are manufactured for >>>>> Apple in China - the sub-contractor (Foxconn) has taken vindictive >>>>> legal action against two Chinese journalists who published reports >>>>> about the appalling conditions which the iPod workers have to >>>>> endure. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Aug 2006, at 22:56, James H wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Only thing is though, what glue do they use in these shoes? >>>>>> >>>>>> I see a lot of shoes around with synthetic uppers, but which ones >>>>>> don't >>>>>> use animal-derived glues?... >>>>>> >>>>>> I remember when I was a lad, looking for synthetic football >>>>>> boots, >>>>>> I got >>>>>> some bewildered looks from shoe shop staff. Nowadays, they seem >>>>>> fully >>>>>> aware of the synthetic v leather issue, but they look dumbstruck >>>>>> when I >>>>>> mention the glue thing. Maybe I should give it a few more years, >>>>>> but I >>>>>> can't wait that long (little Joey goes back to school on >>>>>> Tuesday!!). >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, as for the sweat shops, are they such bad places? I've >>>>>> heard >>>>>> contrasting opinions on them... >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> James >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Russell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Carole - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm in Brighton and we do apparently have a Shoe Zone, so I'll >>>>>>> give >>>>>>> them a try. Similarly for BHS - I'd never thought to try there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 19:23, Carole Backler wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you tried Shoe Zone? I've looked at adult shoes in >>>>>>>> there and >>>>>>>> there's >>>>>>>> loads of synthetic ones. >>>>>>>> http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> >> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>> >>>>> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/> >> <http://www.shoezone.net/ <http://www.shoezone.net/>>> - not sure >>>>> where >>>>>>> you live but there's a store >>>>>>>> finder on their site >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's also been years since I've been in BHS but they used to >>>>>>>> sell >>>>>>>> mostly >>>>>>>> synthetic shoes - I've look on the school section of their >>>>>>>> site, >>>>>>>> but they >>>>>>>> only list uniform stuff. Here's the store finder: >>>>>>>> http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm >> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm >> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>> >>>>> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm> >> <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm <http://www.bhs.co.uk/stores.htm>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not having children myself, I've never looked, so I don't know >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> you'll >>>>>>>> find... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carole >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> <%40> <%40> >>>>> <%40> >>>>>>> [ >> <%40> <%40> >>>>> <%40>]On >>>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>>> Of Paul Russell >>>>>>>> 30 August 2006 19:04 >>>>>>>> <%40> >> <%40> >>>>> <%40> >>>>>>>> Re: Kids' shoes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks James - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure that mail order will work for us, as my boy wears >>>>>>>> orthotic insoles and we really need to try before we buy. >>>>>>>> When we >>>>>>>> lived in the US there was a big chain called Payless Shoe Store >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> was great for cheap kids shoes which were all synthetic >>>>>>>> (probably >>>>>>>> made in Chinese sweat shops though) - there doesn't seem to be >>>>>>>> anything like that in the UK. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 16:41, James H wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The place I've used up till now is Total Liberation (01297 >>>>>>>>> 631133 - >>>>>>>>> mail >>>>>>>>> order). The last pair of school shoes I got from there got >>>>>>>>> holes in >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> before he'd outgrown them - which was a bit disappointing. >>>>>>>>> But they >>>>>>>>> lasted a lot longer than the trainers that I also got from >>>>>>>>> there... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Total Liberation might be worth a try for you Paul. I'd say >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>> shoes were passable, but I was just hoping someone might know >>>>>>>>> where I >>>>>>>>> could get some better quality ones... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul Russell wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Very hard to find - Vegetarian Shoes don't do kids shoes any >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>> unfortunately. Someone suggested Matalan when this came up >>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> I had no luck there either. Please let me know if you find >>>>>>>>>> anything >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:31, James H wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get some decent vegan school >>>>>>>>>>> shoes >>>>>>>>>>> (online >>>>>>>>>>> or on the high street) for my little lad? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have not been overly impressed with the ones we've had in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> past... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>>>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the >>>>>>>>>>> author, >>>>>>>>>>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard. >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? 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