Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I also posted this on the Vegan Forum's " members only " forum. Considering the drama, alarm and potential adverse consequences for the Vegan Society of a message direct to members complete with supportive " blog " , which inspire all sorts of images of a lack of transparency and democracy in the Vegan Society, there has been a singular lack of any debate on concrete matters of policy or initiative regarding TVS on which the furore is centred. So I have done a little digging with other TVS members and members of council to try and ascertain what all this fuss is about and initially simply the factual basis of the allegations in the " message " . Here is what I have found, taking the points in the order they appear: It is claimed that staff turnover and the loss of members of staff is entirely as a result of resignations resulting from some sort of problems of maladministration. This is inaccurate. Rick Savage, for example, did not resign for any such reason. He was seconded from his job in the treasury and stopped being CEO of TVS when his period of secondment came to an end. Similarly, I am told Sebastian Pender stopped being Business Development Officer for the simple reason that he intended to return to university. I am also told that figure of 8 regards a period of more than one year and that some of the resignations were simply to do with members of staff who did not or could not, for family reasons, move with the office to Birmingham. If anyone has any further or contrasting information I would be glad to hear it. Regarding the " editing " of the motions/proposals for resolution for the AGM: The wording of the proposals as they would be adopted at the resolutions has remained unchanged, as anyone can see from comparing the TVS Annual Report and the " message " . What has been omitted are the rationales for the proposals, which have never been included in the past and were not therefore included this time. The logic is that the rationale would be explained in much greater detail at the AGM itself. The intimations of legal action simply involved the person who is threatened with removal from Council irrespective of whether they are elected in the postal ballot stating that they would seek legal advice on the matter, which seems quite understandable given the situation. The matters surrounding the forums that are no longer up and running have been discussed elsewhere here. So what's left? I don't think anyone would deny more transparency is a good idea. None of the members of Council who are not signatories to the " message " have declared themselves opposed to it, which takes care of most of the proposals in the message. Interestingly, five of the signatories are members of Council. This cannot but give the impression that the proposal to appoint an education officer, proposed and seconded by two current members of Council, is in some way a contentious matter that has been opposed by other members of council. Surprisingly, I am informed by two members of Council that it has never been proposed by these or other members at a recent council meeting and that they are in agreement with the proposal, which makes one ask why all the drama, and why put it as a motion to the AGM rather than just get on with the job (and one's colleagues) now? I ask myself what ordinary members are to conclude from this? Even the proposal for a resolution regarding a named council member seems to be ill judged, imprecise and unnecessarily adversarial and factional. It would have been more cohesive, equally effective in the short term and more effective in the long term to have proposed a resolution proscribing and describing in detail the destructive actions that the party is alleged to have committed. Lastly, one has to ask what the need for the " message " was and for venturing the risk of all the potential fallout and adverse consequences for TVS, with 7 signatories of the " message " being either existing members of council or standing for election. I would be very interested to hear the views of the signatories. Cheers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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