Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Lesley, I can see how those that agree by email to go to a meet up don't end up doing it... From what you've said, it sounds like it's a big jump for someone to go from emailing an intention to actually going ahead and doing it. You said you'd emailed these people, but it sounds to me like it needs an intermediary measure (that is, something in between them emailing them and actually meeting up). If I was you, I would call them instead of email them. That way, you can strike up a bit more of a rapport with them and it would also act as a good first step to get them out of the virtual (internet) vegan world into the real world. I reckon it'd make a real difference. I like the sound of what you're doing. And I'd love to do it round here (but I think I'm the only vegan in West Yorkshire!...). Keep at it. Cheers, James Lesley Dove wrote: > > The silently ignoring one another thing, it is really very > frustrating, and > it sounds to me like you were frustrated with this group being too > quiet and > just wanted to get people a bit more actively talking. > > I'm going through the same problem locally, trying to get an active veggie > and vegan group going, social mainly to begin with and hopefully working > towards adding in some activism, but most people I email to ask along to > meet up do nothing, and worst of all silently ignore my invites and > appeals > for support! Most of those who joined up to my are silent too! > Then there are a few who post but never come to meet ups, I just do > not get > that at all. > > I feel like sending a really pissed off email to some of these people, but > of course I won't do that, I suppose I will just silently fume about their > apathy, and keep on as before otherwise, because I don't want to > offend them > and scare them off altogether, but they are people who have said they were > interested in a local veggie and vegan group and yet they do not act like > they are interested at all in doing anything either socially or > campaigning. > > This group used to be very busy at one time, I think these go > through phases of being quiet after being busy. Maybe it would help if > people posted where they are in the UK and if they would like to > organise to > get together with other vegans in their area. Just a suggestion for > getting > ppl to talk. > > As for the discussion in hand, I am just fine with vegan meat/cheese > substitutes, so long as it is not the real animal product, I don't > mind them > at all. I personally like some of them more than others, but that's just > personal taste. I'm a big fan of the Fry's range and so are my kids. My > husband never liked meat so does not like fake meat, but again that is > just > a personal taste thing and he does like cheezly. Like you I do not see any > good reason on principle to be against analogues, especially if they help > some people to go vegetarian or vegan. Some people who have been vegan for > years find they don't like anything that tastes like animal products, > and I > can understand that too. > > So I don't know the answer as to why anyone would on principle not like > analogues, sorry, but I'm not sure Peter said he was, just that he did not > like them. > > Lesley > > _____ > > @ .com <%40> > [@ .com <%40>] > On Behalf Of > mav lists > 25 November 2006 19:19 > @ .com <%40> > Re: Re: Not cheezly > > On Saturday, November 25, 2006, at 12:54 PM, nejmai wrote: > > Did the op mean that they were ethically/philosoph ically opposed to > > analogues? Perhaps they just don't like the taste. > > Maybe it is just me, but I understand the phrase " any shape or form " to > explain an opinion as being on principle. > > Anyway I was only trying to use Peter's comment to launch a debate on > what must be a common vegan issue. Many others do hold such a > position, I am sure, whether or not Peter himself does, and it is one I > do not understand so was hoping others might explain. > > Alternatively we could all just silently ignore each other as usual? > > Michael. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 I don't have everyone's phone number unfortunately, although they should have mine from in the Vegan or wherever they got my details. I'm sure there are lots of vegans in West Yorkshire though, lots of big towns and cites there. We almost moved to Halifax earlier this year! There is a very active group in Leeds, and other Vegetarian Society contacts who might be vegan or know vegans. I hope you can get to Leeds or somewhere else with a group, and would recommend contacting them. If you are not near enough to Leeds they might be able to help put you in touch with someone closer. Good luck Lesley _____ On Behalf Of James H 25 November 2006 21:44 Meet-ups Lesley, I can see how those that agree by email to go to a meet up don't end up doing it... From what you've said, it sounds like it's a big jump for someone to go from emailing an intention to actually going ahead and doing it. You said you'd emailed these people, but it sounds to me like it needs an intermediary measure (that is, something in between them emailing them and actually meeting up). If I was you, I would call them instead of email them. That way, you can strike up a bit more of a rapport with them and it would also act as a good first step to get them out of the virtual (internet) vegan world into the real world. I reckon it'd make a real difference. I like the sound of what you're doing. And I'd love to do it round here (but I think I'm the only vegan in West Yorkshire!...). Keep at it. Cheers, James Lesley Dove wrote: > > The silently ignoring one another thing, it is really very > frustrating, and > it sounds to me like you were frustrated with this group being too > quiet and > just wanted to get people a bit more actively talking. > > I'm going through the same problem locally, trying to get an active veggie > and vegan group going, social mainly to begin with and hopefully working > towards adding in some activism, but most people I email to ask along to > meet up do nothing, and worst of all silently ignore my invites and > appeals > for support! Most of those who joined up to my are silent too! > Then there are a few who post but never come to meet ups, I just do > not get > that at all. > > I feel like sending a really pissed off email to some of these people, but > of course I won't do that, I suppose I will just silently fume about their > apathy, and keep on as before otherwise, because I don't want to > offend them > and scare them off altogether, but they are people who have said they were > interested in a local veggie and vegan group and yet they do not act like > they are interested at all in doing anything either socially or > campaigning. > > This group used to be very busy at one time, I think these go > through phases of being quiet after being busy. Maybe it would help if > people posted where they are in the UK and if they would like to > organise to > get together with other vegans in their area. Just a suggestion for > getting > ppl to talk. > > As for the discussion in hand, I am just fine with vegan meat/cheese > substitutes, so long as it is not the real animal product, I don't > mind them > at all. I personally like some of them more than others, but that's just > personal taste. I'm a big fan of the Fry's range and so are my kids. My > husband never liked meat so does not like fake meat, but again that is > just > a personal taste thing and he does like cheezly. Like you I do not see any > good reason on principle to be against analogues, especially if they help > some people to go vegetarian or vegan. Some people who have been vegan for > years find they don't like anything that tastes like animal products, > and I > can understand that too. > > So I don't know the answer as to why anyone would on principle not like > analogues, sorry, but I'm not sure Peter said he was, just that he did not > like them. > > Lesley > > _____ > > @ .com <%40> > [@ .com <%40>] > On Behalf Of > mav lists > 25 November 2006 19:19 > @ .com <%40> > Re: Re: Not cheezly > > On Saturday, November 25, 2006, at 12:54 PM, nejmai wrote: > > Did the op mean that they were ethically/philosoph ically opposed to > > analogues? Perhaps they just don't like the taste. > > Maybe it is just me, but I understand the phrase " any shape or form " to > explain an opinion as being on principle. > > Anyway I was only trying to use Peter's comment to launch a debate on > what must be a common vegan issue. Many others do hold such a > position, I am sure, whether or not Peter himself does, and it is one I > do not understand so was hoping others might explain. > > Alternatively we could all just silently ignore each other as usual? > > Michael. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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