Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I didnt like some of the questions and could have been one or the other but according to its results I am : moderately expressed introvert moderately expressed intuitive personality moderately expressed feeling personality distinctively expressed judging personality The Valley Vegan................ Lesley Dove <Lesley wrote: There are quite a few sites about it, you can take online test for personality type, it's a bit of fun anyway. I think a load of us on this group did it a while back, http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm Lesley _____ On Behalf Of peter VV 26 November 2006 18:25 RE: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... I have absolutley no idea what that is sorry, could you explain please? The Valley Vegan................. Lesley Dove <Lesley (AT) vegan4life (DOT) <Lesley%40vegan4life.org.uk> org.uk> wrote: Has anyone looked into their Myers-Briggs type? I used to come out on it as ENFJ, but I more recently did it and got ESFJ, which is also OK with me. I'm not a number 4 anyway, I'm sure of that, although might well come across that way among omnivores. It's not how I am among vegans. Lesley @ <%40> .com [@ <%40> .com] On Behalf Of Jo Kimberley 26 November 2006 07:45 @ <%40> .com Re: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... I'm a mix between no 2 & 3 depending on my mood and what time of day its etc Why would the no 4's be interested in joining a group specifically created for social reasons? (Maybe you should rename your group " Don't expect too much conversation as we're thoughtful, quiet vegans " ( or make it clear to people) then people looking for friendly,sociable vegans may have second thoughts about going I find there are quite a lot of no 4 personality types, >-- Original Message -- >@ <%40> .com >James H <james (AT) telestial (DOT) <james%40telestial.org> org> >Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:08:58 +0000 >Re: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... >@ <%40> .com > > >But there's different vegan stereotypes isn't there. Here's what I've >come across so far: > > 1. Boring librarian type > 2. Zany extravagent type > 3. Mellow hippy type > 4. Thoughtful, quiet ('unsociable') type > >Hope I haven't missed any stereotypes. > >Which strain are you (anyone)? Go on - pigeon hole yourself!! > >I think if I'm probably a number 4. (If we're all number 4's, it could >explain why this list is so quiet sometimes!...) > >Cheers, >James > > > >Jo Kimberley wrote: >> Peter, >> >> I've experienced a similar problem ,- vegans aren't the most " sociable > " >> people ,- ( sadly, even amongst themselves) >> and its put me of going to some future vegan social gatherings. But maybe >> this is just a kind of English reserve or personality trait? ,- but I find >> the company of omnivores sometimes more stimulating and worthwhile >> >> Jo >> >> >> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> @ <%40> .com >>> peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) <swpgh01%40talk21.com> com> >>> Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:32:11 +0000 (GMT) >>> RE: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... >>> @ <%40> .com >>> >>> >>> Last christmas I dragged my carnie wife along to a meal in Cardiff organised >>> by the eat out vegan wales people, and beforehand I was very much looking >>> forward to meeting all these likeminded people. However, I found to my >dismay,a >>> rather closed insular little clique, that did nothing to make us feel >welcome, >>> and we had to park ourselves at the end of their table and dispite trying >>> to talk to the group, only one or two decided to engage us in conversation. >>> Very sad, perhaps they did not like my wifes presence as a meat eater >( >>> >> not >> >>> that night ), or maybe they just werent interested in new vegans I dont >>> >> know, >> >>> certainly one or two looked down their noses at us. >>> I just hope that other vegan groups social events are a bit more friendly. >>> >>> The Valley Vegan............... >>> >>> Lesley Dove <Lesley (AT) vegan4life (DOT) <Lesley%40vegan4life.org.uk> org.uk> wrote: >>> The silently ignoring one another thing, it is really very frustrating, >>> and >>> it sounds to me like you were frustrated with this group being too quiet >>> and >>> just wanted to get people a bit more actively talking. >>> >>> I'm going through the same problem locally, trying to get an active veggie >>> and vegan group going, social mainly to begin with and hopefully working >>> towards adding in some activism, but most people I email to ask along >to >>> meet up do nothing, and worst of all silently ignore my invites and appeals >>> for support! Most of those who joined up to my are silent >too! >>> Then there are a few who post but never come to meet ups, I just do not >>> >> get >> >>> that at all. >>> >>> I feel like sending a really pissed off email to some of these people, >but >>> of course I won't do that, I suppose I will just silently fume about their >>> apathy, and keep on as before otherwise, because I don't want to offend >>> >> them >> >>> and scare them off altogether, but they are people who have said they >were >>> interested in a local veggie and vegan group and yet they do not act like >>> they are interested at all in doing anything either socially or campaigning. >>> >>> This group used to be very busy at one time, I think these >>> >> go >> >>> through phases of being quiet after being busy. Maybe it would help if >>> people posted where they are in the UK and if they would like to organise >>> to >>> get together with other vegans in their area. Just a suggestion for getting >>> ppl to talk. >>> >>> As for the discussion in hand, I am just fine with vegan meat/cheese >>> substitutes, so long as it is not the real animal product, I don't mind >>> >> them >> >>> at all. I personally like some of them more than others, but that's just >>> personal taste. I'm a big fan of the Fry's range and so are my kids. My >>> husband never liked meat so does not like fake meat, but again that is >just >>> a personal taste thing and he does like cheezly. Like you I do not see >any >>> good reason on principle to be against analogues, especially if they help >>> some people to go vegetarian or vegan. Some people who have been vegan >for >>> years find they don't like anything that tastes like animal products, >and >>> I >>> can understand that too. >>> >>> So I don't know the answer as to why anyone would on principle not like >>> analogues, sorry, but I'm not sure Peter said he was, just that he did >not >>> like them. >>> >>> Lesley >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> @ <%40> .com [@ <%40> .com] On Behalf >>> Of >>> mav lists >>> 25 November 2006 19:19 >>> @ <%40> .com >>> Re: Re: Not cheezly >>> >>> On Saturday, November 25, 2006, at 12:54 PM, nejmai wrote: >>> >>>> Did the op mean that they were ethically/philosophically opposed to >>>> analogues? Perhaps they just don't like the taste. >>>> >>> Maybe it is just me, but I understand the phrase " any shape or form " to >>> >> >> >>> explain an opinion as being on principle. >>> >>> Anyway I was only trying to use Peter's comment to launch a debate on > >>> what must be a common vegan issue. Many others do hold such a >>> position, I am sure, whether or not Peter himself does, and it is one >I >>> >> >> >>> do not understand so was hoping others might explain. >>> >>> Alternatively we could all just silently ignore each other as usual? >>> >>> Michael. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 It said I am: * moderately expressed introvert * distinctively expressed intuitive personality * moderately expressed thinking personality * slightly expressed judging personality ....which is probably just a technical way of saying how fantastic I am. peter VV wrote: > > I didnt like some of the questions and could have been one or the > other but according to its results I am : > > moderately expressed introvert > > moderately expressed intuitive personality > > moderately expressed feeling personality > > distinctively expressed judging personality > > The Valley Vegan................ > > Lesley Dove <Lesley > <Lesley%40vegan4life.org.uk>> wrote: > There are quite a few sites about it, you can take online test for > personality type, it's a bit of fun anyway. > > I think a load of us on this group did it a while back, > > http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm > <http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm> > > Lesley > > _____ > > <%40> > [ <%40>] On > Behalf Of > peter VV > 26 November 2006 18:25 > <%40> > RE: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... > > I have absolutley no idea what that is sorry, could you explain please? > > The Valley Vegan................. > > Lesley Dove <Lesley (AT) vegan4life (DOT) <Lesley%40vegan4life.org.uk> > org.uk> > wrote: > > Has anyone looked into their Myers-Briggs type? > > I used to come out on it as ENFJ, but I more recently did it and got ESFJ, > which is also OK with me. > > I'm not a number 4 anyway, I'm sure of that, although might well come > across > that way among omnivores. It's not how I am among vegans. > > Lesley > > > @ <%40> .com > [@ <%40> .com] On > Behalf Of > Jo Kimberley > 26 November 2006 07:45 > @ <%40> .com > Re: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... > > I'm a mix between no 2 & 3 depending on my mood and what time of day its > etc > > Why would the no 4's be interested in joining a group specifically created > for social reasons? > (Maybe you should rename your group " Don't expect too much conversation as > we're thoughtful, quiet vegans " ( or make it clear to people) > then people looking for friendly,sociable vegans may have second thoughts > about going > > I find there are quite a lot of no 4 personality types, > > >-- Original Message -- > >@ <%40> .com > >James H <james (AT) telestial (DOT) <james%40telestial.org> org> > >Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:08:58 +0000 > >Re: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... > >@ <%40> .com > > > > > >But there's different vegan stereotypes isn't there. Here's what I've > >come across so far: > > > > 1. Boring librarian type > > 2. Zany extravagent type > > 3. Mellow hippy type > > 4. Thoughtful, quiet ('unsociable') type > > > >Hope I haven't missed any stereotypes. > > > >Which strain are you (anyone)? Go on - pigeon hole yourself!! > > > >I think if I'm probably a number 4. (If we're all number 4's, it could > >explain why this list is so quiet sometimes!...) > > > >Cheers, > >James > > > > > > > >Jo Kimberley wrote: > >> Peter, > >> > >> I've experienced a similar problem ,- vegans aren't the most " sociable > > " > >> people ,- ( sadly, even amongst themselves) > >> and its put me of going to some future vegan social gatherings. But > maybe > >> this is just a kind of English reserve or personality trait? ,- but I > find > >> the company of omnivores sometimes more stimulating and worthwhile > > >> > >> Jo > >> > >> > >> > >>> -- Original Message -- > >>> @ <%40> .com > >>> peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) <swpgh01%40talk21.com> com> > >>> Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:32:11 +0000 (GMT) > >>> RE: Re: Not cheezly/ignorance is not bliss...... > >>> @ <%40> .com > >>> > >>> > >>> Last christmas I dragged my carnie wife along to a meal in Cardiff > organised > >>> by the eat out vegan wales people, and beforehand I was very much > looking > >>> forward to meeting all these likeminded people. However, I found to my > >dismay,a > >>> rather closed insular little clique, that did nothing to make us feel > >welcome, > >>> and we had to park ourselves at the end of their table and dispite > trying > >>> to talk to the group, only one or two decided to engage us in > conversation. > >>> Very sad, perhaps they did not like my wifes presence as a meat eater > >( > >>> > >> not > >> > >>> that night ), or maybe they just werent interested in new vegans I > dont > >>> > >> know, > >> > >>> certainly one or two looked down their noses at us. > >>> I just hope that other vegan groups social events are a bit more > friendly. > >>> > >>> The Valley Vegan............... > >>> > >>> Lesley Dove <Lesley (AT) vegan4life (DOT) <Lesley%40vegan4life.org.uk> > org.uk> wrote: > >>> The silently ignoring one another thing, it is really very > frustrating, > >>> and > >>> it sounds to me like you were frustrated with this group being too > quiet > >>> and > >>> just wanted to get people a bit more actively talking. > >>> > >>> I'm going through the same problem locally, trying to get an active > veggie > >>> and vegan group going, social mainly to begin with and hopefully > working > >>> towards adding in some activism, but most people I email to ask along > >to > >>> meet up do nothing, and worst of all silently ignore my invites and > appeals > >>> for support! Most of those who joined up to my are silent > >too! > >>> Then there are a few who post but never come to meet ups, I just > do not > >>> > >> get > >> > >>> that at all. > >>> > >>> I feel like sending a really pissed off email to some of these people, > >but > >>> of course I won't do that, I suppose I will just silently fume about > their > >>> apathy, and keep on as before otherwise, because I don't want to > offend > >>> > >> them > >> > >>> and scare them off altogether, but they are people who have said they > >were > >>> interested in a local veggie and vegan group and yet they do not act > like > >>> they are interested at all in doing anything either socially or > campaigning. > >>> > >>> This group used to be very busy at one time, I think these > groups > >>> > >> go > >> > >>> through phases of being quiet after being busy. Maybe it would help if > >>> people posted where they are in the UK and if they would like to > organise > >>> to > >>> get together with other vegans in their area. Just a suggestion for > getting > >>> ppl to talk. > >>> > >>> As for the discussion in hand, I am just fine with vegan meat/cheese > >>> substitutes, so long as it is not the real animal product, I don't > mind > >>> > >> them > >> > >>> at all. I personally like some of them more than others, but > that's just > >>> personal taste. I'm a big fan of the Fry's range and so are my kids. > My > >>> husband never liked meat so does not like fake meat, but again that is > >just > >>> a personal taste thing and he does like cheezly. Like you I do not see > >any > >>> good reason on principle to be against analogues, especially if they > help > >>> some people to go vegetarian or vegan. Some people who have been vegan > >for > >>> years find they don't like anything that tastes like animal products, > >and > >>> I > >>> can understand that too. > >>> > >>> So I don't know the answer as to why anyone would on principle not > like > >>> analogues, sorry, but I'm not sure Peter said he was, just that he did > >not > >>> like them. > >>> > >>> Lesley > >>> > >>> _____ > >>> > >>> @ <%40> .com > [@ <%40> .com] On > Behalf > >>> Of > >>> mav lists > >>> 25 November 2006 19:19 > >>> @ <%40> .com > >>> Re: Re: Not cheezly > >>> > >>> On Saturday, November 25, 2006, at 12:54 PM, nejmai wrote: > >>> > >>>> Did the op mean that they were ethically/philosophically opposed to > >>>> analogues? Perhaps they just don't like the taste. > >>>> > >>> Maybe it is just me, but I understand the phrase " any shape or form " > to > >>> > >> > >> > >>> explain an opinion as being on principle. > >>> > >>> Anyway I was only trying to use Peter's comment to launch a debate on > > > >>> what must be a common vegan issue. Many others do hold such a > >>> position, I am sure, whether or not Peter himself does, and it is one > >I > >>> > >> > >> > >>> do not understand so was hoping others might explain. > >>> > >>> Alternatively we could all just silently ignore each other as usual? > >>> > >>> Michael. > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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