RE: non-vegan blips&CBT Therapy etc.

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Dear Opalline,

Hi!

I read u'r CBT suggestion to Jo for food craving . Culd it help in managing my

extremely untasteful ( pun intended! ) temper episodes too ?

All my vegan friends out there , I've been facing this issue since a long time .

So much of temper outbursts frm. my side get witnessed by my family on a daily

basis (as much as 4-5 times a day at times ) , that I've started finding the

whole thing quite unvegan by now .

Veganism is afterall the epitome of peace and non-violence (agreed , on an

external level its so only towards non-human animals ) ; so, how can I continue

getting angry and foul tempered with my family and close friends ?

I do realise I need a psychologist for this but then I feel even then the whole

thing might boil down to my own will power , right?

My dear Vegan friends , plz. do help me out on this !

Thanx in advance ,

Sonal Vegan frm.India

 

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Underwood-Fowler Cindy <CDUFOWLER

RE: non-vegan blips!

 

Wednesday, 23 September, 2009, 6:51 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jo,

 

Sorry to hear you're still struggling. I have read elsewhere that your

body does sometimes make you crave things you're actually intolerant to,

and the cravings can initially get much worse when you try to cut down.,

so I wouldn't be surprised to find that was the case for you.

 

I have successfully dealt with some junk food cravings (crisps,

particularly) by telling myself I can have it AFTER I've eaten a decent

amount of something that's good for me.

 

The rule is, each time you find yourself reaching for the chocolate, you

are NOT allowed to eat it until you have drunk a whole glass of fruit

juice (because of the natural sugar, and because cravings are sometimes

just thirst in disguise, where your body gets confused over what it

wants) AND eaten a whole portion of something filling and better for

you... maybe wholemeal pasta, a big bowl of muesli, brown rice salad, a

big tortilla wrap or pitta bread stuffed with salad and tofu, even beans

on toast might do. By the time you've done that, you will be full (so

hunger will be out of the equation), and it will have taken so much time

for you to get the food ready and eat it, that you will hopefully have

gone off the idea of chocolate anyway. Most cravings are said to last

about 5 minutes or so, so hopefully the initial urge will have gone, and

you'll have been able to talk some sense into yourself!

 

Also, if this approach doesn't help, then cold turkey might be your best

plan, though it's hard to start with. I did go through a phase of being

really addicted to chocolate a while back, it got beyond belief as I was

even getting up to the loo in the night and making a detour via the

kitchen so I could eat some nutella out of the jar!! Cutting down didn't

help, it just made it harder really as the cravings just got worse but

didn't go away as I was still feeding them. I found that the only way to

really get rid of my cravings was to not have ANYTHING chocolatey in the

house...nothing. If there's anything that vaguely tastes like chocolate

it may fool your brain into thinking you ate real chocolate and fuel the

cravings still. So no choc soya milk, no hot chocolate drink, no

chocolate soya ice cream... nothing. If it's not there, you can't eat

it, no self discipline required. Amazingly, once I did that, it only

took a few days for me to stop craving it at all and when I did have

milk chocolate again (remember this is my pre vegan days), I thought it

tasted sickly and odd and couldn't understand why I'd wanted it so badly

before. Nowadays I still eat chocolate but far less often and I watch

myself to make sure it doesn't get that bad again!

 

One other thing that might help is to associate the chocolate with

something you find repulsive. Like, keep reminding yourself that

Minstrels contain pus. Cow's milk contains pus and Minstrels contain

cow's milk. If you eat the Minstrels, you're eating dead blood cells,

and the broken down products of infection - the innards of bacteria, for

instance. Eeeeeewwwww.

Or, try the CBT therapy trick where you wear an elastic band around your

wrist and snap it every time you find yourself thinking about chocolate?

it focuses your mind and distracts you from the craving.

 

Hope some of this helps.

 

Opalline

 

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23 September 2009 00:37

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RE: Can dairy make you anxious? OR non-vegan blips!

 

Hi

 

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to you.

 

I seem to be giving in to milk chocolate on a daily basis at the mo, and

it's gotta stop!! I am really aware that my heart rate speeds up after

I've

had chocolate, and I don't know if it's the caffeine of the sugar, but I

reckon it's actually the dairy. I think I've built up an intolerance to

it.

 

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