Doreen's Intro

[Guest guest]

B " H

 

Hello, my name is Doreen Ellen Bell-Dotan. I've been living in

Yisra'el for 21 years. I was 24 when I arrived. I'll let you do the

math yourselves.

 

I'm happy to be among you.

 

I live in close accordance with the Natural Hygiene recommendations,

as described by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond in their books. I was

astounded by the wisdom contained in those books when I first read

them, and adopted the way of life. My husband grew up with those

principles, actually. His mother was very ill with a stomach ailment

when he was young and was sent to a rest home. There she was put on

what is essentially the Natural Hygiene diet, after a few weeks of

juice fasting. It saved her life. Not being able to keep up with

both healthy food preps for herself and ordinary ones for the family

(and I guess not really wanting to), she announced that everyone in

the house was going to get healthy food. So, my husband was raised

on a Natural Hygiene diet, as was his two brothers. My husband is now

63 years old and still weighs exactly what he weighed when he did the

commando's and frogman courses in the army, i.e., 63-64 kilos. He

still climbs like a billy goat too and loves to go hiking. He and our

son climb the beautiful olive, fig, almond, and pomegranate trees

that grow wild in Tzfat and bring down buckets full of fruit and

nuts. Grapevines abound in Tzfat as well, and the clusters of grapes

on the venerable old vines are huge. Our daughter is also vegetarian –

proof positive you can live on the diet, although she has to watch

her iron levels, as they tend to dip.

 

I've learned a good deal about health from my husband, my M-I-L,

vegetarian and health conscious friends, and from study. I'm always

learning more. Sharing what we know, in addition to seeking like-

minded companionship is why I've joined the group.

 

I've got three files worth of recipes I've collected over the years.

With the advent of the computer age many of them can now be found

on " the net " , but I've adapted many in my own special way and will be

happy to share those variations with you. I'm always looking for

more recipes ideas.

 

Some of the friends I've learned the most about vegetarianism and a

healthy, holy way of life are the people known as " The Black Hebrews "

who came to live in Israel from the US. I wholeheartedly recommend

you visit their site and get to know a bit about that awesome (I

don't use that word much, but it fits in this case.) community of

people. Their site is:

 

http://www.kingdomofyah.com/

 

As I mentioned briefly in my post about kuzu, I live in the

incredible town of Tzfat in Israel. Links to the sites my hometown

are:

 

www.safed.co.il -and-

 

www.zfat.co.il.

 

There are many vegetarians and health conscious people in the town.

There are three health food stores in Tzfat, a town of about 30,000.

I think that's pretty good, per capita.

 

There is a marvelous school here for natural health according to the

principles of the doctor Maimonides (The Ramba " m, after whom so many

hospitals are named), as understood in light of medical and

nutritional findings since his time, a thousand years ago. There's a

rest house and organic garden on the premises. Their courses are very

reasonably priced. I think they may offer correspondence courses.

Their web site is:

 

http://www.rambam.co.il/

 

Just a look at the photo album of the place is worth visiting the

site.

 

We keep a strictly kosher vegetarian home. That makes things a lot

easier, as I do not have to keep two full sets of dishes, flatware,

pots and pans. Kashrut is not a vegetarian way of life, but

vegetarians often make good use of kosher products when looking for

products that do not have animal derivatives in them. Someone here

mentioned Ko-Jel, as an example. If anyone has questions about

kashrut, vis-a-vis vegetarianism, please ask.

 

Guess that's about it for now.

 

Thank you for having me among you.

 

Doreen Ellen Bell-Dotan, Tzfat, Yisra'el

[Guest guest]

--- B " H

 

I'd like to add a P.S. to the intro, which I wrote to a number of

veggie lists.

 

Since this is a Jewish group many of you probably know about kashrut

law. If, however, you have questions about kashrut in Yisra'el

specifically, by all means bring them up.

 

Doreen

 

In , " Doreen Bell-Dotan "

<dordot2001> wrote:

> B " H

>

> Hello, my name is Doreen Ellen Bell-Dotan. I've been living in

> Yisra'el for 21 years. I was 24 when I arrived. I'll let you do

the

> math yourselves.

>

> I'm happy to be among you.

>

> I live in close accordance with the Natural Hygiene

recommendations,

> as described by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond in their books. I was

> astounded by the wisdom contained in those books when I first read

> them, and adopted the way of life. My husband grew up with those

> principles, actually. His mother was very ill with a stomach

ailment

> when he was young and was sent to a rest home. There she was put

on

> what is essentially the Natural Hygiene diet, after a few weeks of

> juice fasting. It saved her life. Not being able to keep up with

> both healthy food preps for herself and ordinary ones for the

family

> (and I guess not really wanting to), she announced that everyone in

> the house was going to get healthy food. So, my husband was raised

> on a Natural Hygiene diet, as was his two brothers. My husband is

now

> 63 years old and still weighs exactly what he weighed when he did

the

> commando's and frogman courses in the army, i.e., 63-64 kilos. He

> still climbs like a billy goat too and loves to go hiking. He and

our

> son climb the beautiful olive, fig, almond, and pomegranate trees

> that grow wild in Tzfat and bring down buckets full of fruit and

> nuts. Grapevines abound in Tzfat as well, and the clusters of

grapes

> on the venerable old vines are huge. Our daughter is also

vegetarian –

> proof positive you can live on the diet, although she has to watch

> her iron levels, as they tend to dip.

>

> I've learned a good deal about health from my husband, my M-I-L,

> vegetarian and health conscious friends, and from study. I'm always

> learning more. Sharing what we know, in addition to seeking like-

> minded companionship is why I've joined the group.

>

> I've got three files worth of recipes I've collected over the

years.

> With the advent of the computer age many of them can now be found

> on " the net " , but I've adapted many in my own special way and will

be

> happy to share those variations with you. I'm always looking for

> more recipes ideas.

>

> Some of the friends I've learned the most about vegetarianism and a

> healthy, holy way of life are the people known as " The Black

Hebrews "

> who came to live in Israel from the US. I wholeheartedly recommend

> you visit their site and get to know a bit about that awesome (I

> don't use that word much, but it fits in this case.) community of

> people. Their site is:

>

> http://www.kingdomofyah.com/

>

> As I mentioned briefly in my post about kuzu, I live in the

> incredible town of Tzfat in Israel. Links to the sites my hometown

> are:

>

> www.safed.co.il -and-

>

> www.zfat.co.il.

>

> There are many vegetarians and health conscious people in the town.

> There are three health food stores in Tzfat, a town of about

30,000.

> I think that's pretty good, per capita.

>

> There is a marvelous school here for natural health according to

the

> principles of the doctor Maimonides (The Ramba " m, after whom so

many

> hospitals are named), as understood in light of medical and

> nutritional findings since his time, a thousand years ago. There's

a

> rest house and organic garden on the premises. Their courses are

very

> reasonably priced. I think they may offer correspondence courses.

> Their web site is:

>

> http://www.rambam.co.il/

>

> Just a look at the photo album of the place is worth visiting the

> site.

>

> We keep a strictly kosher vegetarian home. That makes things a lot

> easier, as I do not have to keep two full sets of dishes, flatware,

> pots and pans. Kashrut is not a vegetarian way of life, but

> vegetarians often make good use of kosher products when looking for

> products that do not have animal derivatives in them. Someone here

> mentioned Ko-Jel, as an example. If anyone has questions about

> kashrut, vis-a-vis vegetarianism, please ask.

>

> Guess that's about it for now.

>

> Thank you for having me among you.

>

> Doreen Ellen Bell-Dotan, Tzfat, Yisra'el

[Guest guest]

My daughter also has a trouble keeping her iron level up. What works

for your daughter?

Shoshana Michael-Zucker

 

> Our daughter is also vegetarian–

> proof positive you can live on the diet, although she has to watch

> her iron levels, as they tend to dip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Shalom and welcome, my friend.

 

I am a new vegetarian and know little about what I'm doing, but am learning

fast.

 

Anyway, I want to welcome you to the list.

 

Darlene

 

Read about our experience with Child " Protective " Services at

http://members.freespeech.org/herod/ and scrolling down and clicking on

" Port Colborne " .

[Guest guest]

> My daughter also has a trouble keeping her iron level up. What works

> for your daughter? -- Shoshana Michael-Zucker

 

You didn't ask me, but as an herbalist I'm going to chime in anyway. :-)

 

As you probably know, women who have periods need somewhere around

18 mg of iron a day, which is about how much an ordinary daily

multivitamin

pill with iron has. But young women in the first third or so of their

menstrual lives may need more than that, and so may older women who

flood. And

to absorb iron properly, you do have to get enough vitamin C. A good

supplement containing ferrous fumarate (a very absorbable and digestible

form of iron), preferably chelated, and some extra C can be a good idea.

There used to be one called Ferrancee, but I don't know if it's still

made.

Please take anything like this according to directions unless your doctor

 

says to increase it; it's possible to overdose on iron.

 

A vegetarian can also get a fair amount of it from leafy greens, raisins,

most

any yellow or orange veggie, mushrooms, oatmeal, brown rice, and. . .I'm

not making this up. . .bittersweet chocolate. One excellent herbal

source is

stinging nettle, which makes a nice mellow-tasting tea that also helps

some people with nasal allergies. (Mint can be added if one finds the

flavor bland.) As with any herb, please read up on it first.

 

Spinach, while it has a lot of iron in it, has a downside for women and

elder men, because it binds calcium, preventing it from being absorbed.

Same with Swiss chard, to a lesser degree. If you want a very similar

flavor without the downside--and for free!--try lamb's quarters. Picked

young, preferably in the spring, this common weed tastes like the best

spinach you ever ate, especially when lightly buttered and served with a

tiny, tiny bit (literally just a few grains) of nutmeg. And it's free

for the taking, over most of the US, from vacant lots, farm fields and

even cracks in the sidewalk. Freezes fine, so if you like it, pick lots

while it's at its best.

 

Important: regular caffeine intake depletes iron, which is one reason

women who drink a lot of coffee, black tea, Coke, Big Red, Mountain Dew

or whatever can be anemic. Some sources say soft drinks do this whether

they're

caffeinated or not, though that's not well corroborated; either way, the

phosphorus also leaches calcium from the teeth, which is why diet drinks

are nearly as bad for the teeth as sugary ones, especially while the

permanent teeth are just forming.

 

Note that it takes about two months to rebuild hemoglobin after a bout of

anemia; getting the iron level back up isn't necessarily going to be an

instant

fix for any symptoms your daughter may be having.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

--- B " H

 

One excellent herbal

source (of iron) is

stinging nettle, which makes a nice mellow-tasting tea that also helps

some people with nasal allergies.

 

Glad you brought this up.

 

I suffered for years with a terrible cough. A bad bout of bronchitis

that turned into pneumonia left scar tissue in my lungs. Every time

I got the slightest cold it turned into months of dreadful, painful

hacking.

 

Ony of my dear friends from the Black Hebrew community** took me by

the hand one day when she heard me hacking and told me to buy

stinging nettle. It's called Sirpad in Hebrew, Shosana.

 

She told me to make a strong infusion of the stinging nettle and

drink it 3X per day with honey to taste, but not to drink the last

cup after 18:00, as it is a strong, and very effective, expectorant.

 

Not only did my cough stop in three days - *it never came back again.*

 

**The Black Hebrew community spent 5 years in Liberia learning herbal

medicine before arriving in Israel. They continued to learn more

here and the community, as a whole, are genuine experts in vegan diet

and herbal medicine. Visit their site to learn more about their

unique birthing house.

 

Traditional Herbal Medicine from Ethiopia is becoming well-known and

respected here in Israel. The allopathic medical community in Israel

has recognized, and admitted, to their credit, that many of the

herbal treatments brought here by the Ethiopian immigrants are more

effective and cause far less side effects than the allopathic

treatments. Research is being conducted and medical delegations are

being sent from Israel to Ethiopia to learn more.

 

The nursing school at the Rivka Ziv Hospital here in Tzfat has

extended a welcoming hand, as well as helpful scholarhships and

grants, to young Ethiopians interested in becoming registered and

practical nurses. In turn, the school is enriched by the knowledge

of medicine that the students bring.

 

Doreen

 

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome Doreen,

 

I am glad you joined the group. I am new here too. Your post is most intriguing. It sounds like you married into a wonderful family. Best wishes to you and yours.

 

Susan R. in northern California

 

-

Doreen Bell-Dotan

Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:02 AM

Doreen's Intro

B"HHello, my name is Doreen Ellen Bell-Dotan. I've been living in Yisra'el for 21 years. I was 24 when I arrived. I'll let you do the math yourselves.I'm happy to be among you.I live in close accordance with the Natural Hygiene recommendations, as described by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond in their books. I was astounded by the wisdom contained in those books when I first read them, and adopted the way of life. My husband grew up with those principles, actually. His mother was very ill with a stomach ailment when he was young and was sent to a rest home. There she was put on what is essentially the Natural Hygiene diet, after a few weeks of juice fasting. It saved her life. Not being able to keep up with both healthy food preps for herself and ordinary ones for the family (and I guess not really wanting to), she announced that everyone in the house was going to get healthy food. So, my husband was raised on a Natural Hygiene diet, as was his two brothers. My husband is now 63 years old and still weighs exactly what he weighed when he did the commando's and frogman courses in the army, i.e., 63-64 kilos. He still climbs like a billy goat too and loves to go hiking. He and our son climb the beautiful olive, fig, almond, and pomegranate trees that grow wild in Tzfat and bring down buckets full of fruit and nuts. Grapevines abound in Tzfat as well, and the clusters of grapes on the venerable old vines are huge. Our daughter is also vegetarian –proof positive you can live on the diet, although she has to watch her iron levels, as they tend to dip.I've learned a good deal about health from my husband, my M-I-L, vegetarian and health conscious friends, and from study. I'm always learning more. Sharing what we know, in addition to seeking like-minded companionship is why I've joined the group. Some of the friends I've learned the most about vegetarianism and a healthy, holy way of life are the people known as "The Black Hebrews" who came to live in Israel from the US. I wholeheartedly recommend you visit their site and get to know a bit about that awesome (I don't use that word much, but it fits in this case.) community of people. Their site is:http://www.kingdomofyah.com/As I mentioned briefly in my post about kuzu, I live in the incredible town of Tzfat in Israel. Links to the sites my hometown are:www.safed.co.il -and-www.zfat.co.il.There are many vegetarians and health conscious people in the town. There are three health food stores in Tzfat, a town of about 30,000. I think that's pretty good, per capita.There is a marvelous school here for natural health according to the principles of the doctor Maimonides (The Ramba"m, after whom so many hospitals are named), as understood in light of medical and nutritional findings since his time, a thousand years ago. There's a rest house and organic garden on the premises. Their courses are very reasonably priced. I think they may offer correspondence courses. Their web site is:http://www.rambam.co.il/Just a look at the photo album of the place is worth visiting the site.We keep a strictly kosher vegetarian home. That makes things a lot easier, as I do not have to keep two full sets of dishes, flatware, pots and pans. Kashrut is not a vegetarian way of life, but vegetarians often make good use of kosher products when looking for products that do not have animal derivatives in them. Someone here mentioned Ko-Jel, as an example. If anyone has questions about kashrut, vis-a-vis vegetarianism, please ask.Guess that's about it for now.Thank you for having me among you.Doreen Ellen Bell-Dotan, Tzfat, Yisra'el