Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 2 (10 oz) pkgs frozen, chopped spinach (or equivalent fresh) 1 clove fresh garlic, peeled & minced 2 eggs, slightly beaten 1/4 C grated Parmesan cheese 1 tsp. mace or nutmeg 1 tsp. Mortons Naturel Seasons® 1 C part skim ricotta cheese 1/4 C pine nuts 1 T olive oil Preheat oven to 350°. Cook the frozen spinach according to package directions. If using fresh spinach, wash it, remove the stems and cook with just as much water as will cling to the leaves. Cool and drain the spinach well; squeeze dry to remove excess juice. Combine with eggs, grated Parmesan, mace or nutmeg, Morton's seasoned salt, and ricotta cheese. Rub a 10-inch pie pan with olive oil and spread the spinach mixture evenly around the pan. Top with pine nuts. Bake for 20 minutes. Cool on a rack and refrigerate until packing your picnic basket. Remove from cooler about one hour before serving, depending on weather conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 This is good for Atkins dieters, and delicious. Sari Cohen Gabriella <gabriella_kapsaski wrote: 2 (10 oz) pkgs frozen, chopped spinach (or equivalent fresh) 1 clove fresh garlic, peeled & minced 2 eggs, slightly beaten 1/4 C grated Parmesan cheese 1 tsp. mace or nutmeg 1 tsp. Mortons Naturel Seasons® 1 C part skim ricotta cheese 1/4 C pine nuts 1 T olive oil Preheat oven to 350°. Cook the frozen spinach according to package directions. If using fresh spinach, wash it, remove the stems and cook with just as much water as will cling to the leaves. Cool and drain the spinach well; squeeze dry to remove excess juice. Combine with eggs, grated Parmesan, mace or nutmeg, Morton's seasoned salt, and ricotta cheese. Rub a 10-inch pie pan with olive oil and spread the spinach mixture evenly around the pan. Top with pine nuts. Bake for 20 minutes. Cool on a rack and refrigerate until packing your picnic basket. Remove from cooler about one hour before serving, depending on weather conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Two things about the Atkins comment: Yes and No. The yes refers to several vegetarians, including myself, who have tried the Atkins diet. The no refers to the question of it being for carnivores. Let me elaborate in reverse: etarobale. Just kidding. But seriously, the problem with this statement is that people who eat meat are not carnivores. This would mean they eat literally nothing but meat. The human body cannot survive on meat alone. Even the most meat eating people also need to have their potatoes to survive. Therefore, they are omnivores. Likewise, persons such as myself are not simply herbivores. We are lacto-ovo herbivores, meaning we eat dairy, eggs, and vegetables, but no meat. Secondly, the Atkins diet, per se, shuns any carbohydrate consumption beyond a small amount. This means we're allowed to eat dairy foods, as long as they are very low in sugar, and we eat them in moderation. The truth of the matter is, indeed, that vegetarianism severely limits the food variety on the diet, and therefore its potential for success. A better plan, in my experience, is what is being called the New Atkins diet. It is quite similar to the original, but includes such vegetables as leafy greens, and perhaps legumes. Regards, Elazar Nudell PS: My intention in writing this email response is not to be offensive, unnecessarily critical, or harsh in any way. I apologize sincerely if this was the case. I just wanted to clear up misconceptions that I, myself, picked up from the email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 LOL! I just never realized vegetarians would ever be on an Atkins diet. Isn't this actually a diet form for carnivores? , Sari Cohen <saricohen2004> wrote: > > This is good for Atkins dieters, and delicious. Sari Cohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 As long as you use eggs and dairy products, you can keep to the new Atkins diet very well. This is not for a vegan vegetarian diet. Sari Cohen Gabriella <gabriella_kapsaski wrote:LOL! I just never realized vegetarians would ever be on an Atkins diet. Isn't this actually a diet form for carnivores? , Sari Cohen <saricohen2004> wrote: > > This is good for Atkins dieters, and delicious. Sari Cohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Shalom Elazar! Thanks for the information (no need to apologize for anything, because I assume , that quite a number of people have no clear idea about the Atkins Diet...at least vegetarians..maybe I'm wrong and the only one, LOL) To be honest, I do not trust any kind of diet that restricts or imposes anything (sorry) But everybody knows, what works best for him/her. Cutting out bread, pulses and most of the vegetables, and since weare not eating eggs and very few dairy products would certainly leave my family very skinny (because of starvation) Warm regards, Gabriella , jpgr26@a... wrote: > Two things about the Atkins comment: Yes and No. The yes refers to several > vegetarians, including myself, who have tried the Atkins diet. The no refers to > the question of it being for carnivores. Let me elaborate in reverse: > etarobale. Just kidding. But seriously, the problem with this statement is that people > who eat meat are not carnivores. This would mean they eat literally nothing > but meat. The human body cannot survive on meat alone. Even the most meat > eating people also need to have their potatoes to survive. Therefore, they are > omnivores. Likewise, persons such as myself are not simply herbivores. We are > lacto-ovo herbivores, meaning we eat dairy, eggs, and vegetables, but no meat. > > Secondly, the Atkins diet, per se, shuns any carbohydrate consumption beyond > a small amount. This means we're allowed to eat dairy foods, as long as they > are very low in sugar, and we eat them in moderation. The truth of the matter > is, indeed, that vegetarianism severely limits the food variety on the diet, > and therefore its potential for success. A better plan, in my experience, is > what is being called the New Atkins diet. It is quite similar to the original, > but includes such vegetables as leafy greens, and perhaps legumes. > > Regards, > > Elazar Nudell > > PS: My intention in writing this email response is not to be offensive, > unnecessarily critical, or harsh in any way. I apologize sincerely if this was the > case. I just wanted to clear up misconceptions that I, myself, picked up from > the email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Shalom Sari! Thanks! Now to be honest - does one have to do a diet at all?? I'd really love to hear a few oponions about that from other group members. I was never on a diet all my life, and never had any weight problems. I think, it is all in the mind. Once you start to be anxious about what you eat, doesn't it become a dangerous obsession? Okay, if you eat all sweets and too much fat, it will show on the hips - same thing for alcohol. But a normal, balanced diet (especially a vegetarian life-style) shouldn't that be enough? Maybe I am all wrong? Gabriella , Sari Cohen <saricohen2004> wrote: > As long as you use eggs and dairy products, you can keep to the new Atkins diet very well. This is not for a vegan vegetarian diet. Sari Cohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I am referring to the New Atkins Diet, also. The old one was dangerous to humans long term. Regards, Sari Cohen jpgr26 wrote:Two things about the Atkins comment: Yes and No. The yes refers to several vegetarians, including myself, who have tried the Atkins diet. The no refers to the question of it being for carnivores. Let me elaborate in reverse: etarobale. Just kidding. But seriously, the problem with this statement is that people who eat meat are not carnivores. This would mean they eat literally nothing but meat. The human body cannot survive on meat alone. Even the most meat eating people also need to have their potatoes to survive. Therefore, they are omnivores. Likewise, persons such as myself are not simply herbivores. We are lacto-ovo herbivores, meaning we eat dairy, eggs, and vegetables, but no meat. Secondly, the Atkins diet, per se, shuns any carbohydrate consumption beyond a small amount. This means we're allowed to eat dairy foods, as long as they are very low in sugar, and we eat them in moderation. The truth of the matter is, indeed, that vegetarianism severely limits the food variety on the diet, and therefore its potential for success. A better plan, in my experience, is what is being called the New Atkins diet. It is quite similar to the original, but includes such vegetables as leafy greens, and perhaps legumes. Regards, Elazar Nudell PS: My intention in writing this email response is not to be offensive, unnecessarily critical, or harsh in any way. I apologize sincerely if this was the case. I just wanted to clear up misconceptions that I, myself, picked up from the email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Gabriella In an ideal world where we all start of being fed a balanced and mainly plant based diet you would probably be right, but unfortunately for some of us, that wasn't the case and now that we are older and wiser, so to speak, and looking to correct a lifetime of mistakes, we have to make choices to change how we eat. Now some people call that a diet and others call it an eating regime and others call it a lifestyle choice, but what I know is that I was raised on a Standard North American Diet, was forced to look at that 8 years ago at 35 when my daughter was diagnosed with Celiac Disease (a non-curable gluten intolerance) and then my sons were diagnosed with food allergies to other common foods. This year, I choose to become vegetarian and mostly vegan because of the things I have learned about cow milk, but doing that helped me to loose weight that never wanted to come off before, and I am not done yet. So, do we need a " diet " - while, in my opinion we are all on one anyway, because a diet is just a style or pattern of eating. Do we need reduction diets? No that's a different question and I think that is we looked at what haShem planned for us in the first place (plant based diet with mostly fruits, nuts and seeds) and we ate that way consistently we wouldn't need reduction diets. BL Gabriella wrote: >Shalom Sari! > >Thanks! Now to be honest - does one have to do a diet at all?? >I'd really love to hear a few oponions about that from other group >members > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Shalom, Brenda-Lee, it seems that I used indeed the wrong terms. Sorry!!! When I referred to " diets " , I certainly meant reduction diets. Of course people with allergies have to stick to a special eating regime. What I wondered about was the somewhat (IMO)approach to life long reduction diets. I hope this solved the confusion. Warm greeting, Gabriella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Oh Gabriella, I wasn't meaning to offer correction, just my thoughts. thanks for explaining though. BL Gabriella wrote: >Shalom, Brenda-Lee, > >it seems that I used indeed the wrong terms. Sorry!!! When I referred >to " diets " , I certainly meant reduction diets. >Of course people with allergies have to stick to a special eating >regime. What I wondered about was the somewhat (IMO)approach to life >long reduction diets. >I hope this solved the confusion. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 This is do know, and I thank you. However, I did indeed appreciate your response, because sometimes small misunderstandings can sneak in and make things complicated. Have a nice week! Gabriella , Brenda-Lee <shalomaleichemacadem@m...> wrote: > Oh Gabriella, I wasn't meaning to offer correction, just my thoughts. > thanks for explaining though. > > BL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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