Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Look what I received! I suppose you all agree with my response and do not want me to sell your IDs, right? Shalom! After reading your message, I am still not sure WHAT you want and WHY I should impose your proposition to the members of my two groups? Both groups are mailing lists, we do not advertise anything or anyone nor do we permit any spam. Why should your moderators run my lists? What are you selling, that you are so desperate in finding clients that way? I strongly doubt that any member in my groups needs to be re-assured that " One reason is that when the world realizes that Israeli & Jewish cuisine is so good, they might be a little bit more friendly. A second reason is because if Jew's who see that keeping kosher is easier feel that way, maybe they will do so. " If any group moderator will send you his data protected member list, I would rather doubt his integrity! Sorry, Sir, find someone more stupid to enhance your business and do not contact me again! And...if anyone wishes to publish a recipe book, she or he will do so...without your financial profits! Gabriella Kapsaski " Jonathan (Pickles) Sklan-Willis " <me wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 " Jonathan \(Pickles\) Sklan-Willis " To: Proposition to merge kosher food lists. Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:47:50 -0000 Dear list owner Firstly, let me congratulate you on the excellent job, that you are doing of keeping the kosher cuisine group together. It is an important cause, for several reasons. One reason is that when the world realizes that Israeli & Jewish cuisine is so good, they might be a little bit more friendly. A second reason is because if Jew's who see that keeping kosher is easier feel that way, maybe they will do so. Secondly, out there on the web, on alone, there are 7 " generic " kosher / jewish / israeli food / cuisine lists. The total user base is 2,519 as of today 15 June 2004 - at 13:15 GMT. If we subtract an estimate of 200 that use most of the groups, that is 2,300 odd users. If all these groups were merged together, and advertised with one e-mail to all the Israeli & Jewish society groups worldwide, the user base would probably expand to 4,000 or more within a few weeks. It would be more effective, yes harder to run and moderate, but JANGLO with 3,566 users & ISRAEMPLOY with 4,290 users manage to. JANGLO has 2 moderators. If all 7 food lists are merged, then there will be at least 7 moderators, which will keep the job a lot easier and definitely possible. My proposition is this. All 7 groups, including yours, copy their userlists and merge them into one. Moderation rules are set like in JANGLO & ISRAEMPLOY, as free joining but moderated messages. I will offer to host on my server the archives and recipes for free. Moderators are the previous moderators of all 7 groups and list owners. All current lists will have their group page as saying " This group is now part of the new Jewish & Kosher Cuisine Group " , members details will be kept on the groups, however no e-mails will go through the group (this is in the event that any group wishes to pull out later, they will still have their user list). I am sure that some of the groups are " sponsored " by the group owners, that have their own food companies of some sort. These would have ads, rotating weekly at the bottom and top of every message. Why am I doing this? What do I get out of this? First and formost, I love food, especially cuisine, middle-eastern. I lived in Israel for 6yrs till recently and the only thing I miss is the food. If we raise awareness as to how good kosher food is, I will get more recipes and expand my knowledge of one of my favorite topics - food. Additionally, I am getting into various computer projects, one of which is web hosting & design (incl. search engine addition and promotion), another is programming - mainly in the database field. Their websites will soon be up at www.online-identity.net & www.skwprogramming.com respectively. I would have an ad on the website as a sponsor. My long term goal for this project is to publish a free piece of software with 10's of thousands of recipes from the lists. The software would be distributed freely, and programmed by Sultan Kanou Willis Programming, hosted by Online Identity Hosting & Design Services. It would be built at first in English and Hebrew, maybe later in other languages. Who knows? Maybe if we reach that far, we could publish a recipe book. The sky isn't even the limit! If you are interested please do not hesitate to e-mail me at me, or ICQ 60914589, IM jsklanwillis, MSN IM pickles. Looking forward to hearing from you, Pickles - Jonathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 The more I think about this, the angrier I get! As you might have noticed, nobody can see the members' list (IDs and emails). This is done in order to protect your privacy as good as one can. After all, who knows WHERE this information goes... Anyway! I banned him with two IDs and if he is still here, he'll take a leave with his other IDs! Gabriella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Gabriella, you are completely correct. I have no idea who this person is and I am not interested in lists with meat recipes even if theyare kosher. I am familiar with the janglo and israemploy lists. They are indeed good lists but completely different in their purposes. Shoshana Gabriella <gabriella_kapsaski wrote: Look what I received! I suppose you all agree with my response and do not want me to sell your IDs, right? Shalom! After reading your message, I am still not sure WHAT you want and WHY I should impose your proposition to the members of my two groups? Both groups are mailing lists, we do not advertise anything or anyone nor do we permit any spam. Why should your moderators run my lists? ================================= Shoshana Michael-Zucker, Translations Levona 7/6 Kfar Sava 44243 Israel Tel. +972-9-767-5835 Fax. +972-9-766-2855 email: translations shosh_mz New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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