Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 > Do you have more information about " cilantro-[soap] " gene? I don't recall which natural-health mag I first read it in, but not one of the flaky ones, and it looked to be a large and well-constructed study. And since then, I've learned more about it on the Chile-Heads' list. The effect has apprently been known to scientists for a longish time, but of course it hasn't been widely known to the public in the US till recently, when cilantro became (all too horribly) trendy. For roughly 20% of European-descended adults studied in the US, eating cilantro is like taking a honkin' big bite out of a bar of Irish Spring. And there's an oily, soap-too-recently-made-from-lard smell to the fresh stuff that makes some people, including me, genuinely nauseated. I don't have any information on whether it's present in other ethnic or national groups. I keep hearing from cilantro aficionados that it's possible for people with the gene to get used to the stuff, and even learn to like it. It may also be less evident in countries where people grow up on cilantro. But most people with the gene I've asked say they have no urge to try to " just get over it " , except possibly in self-defense. Rain " get that stuff away from me " Adkins :-) @@@@ \\\\\\ ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 As one who happens to love cilantro( It is very good for you too!!!) I am powerless to explain why everyone does not like it!! How we are raised has alot to do with it. I recall when I was young, that my mother hated avocados, my father grew up on them, so we had avocados all the time. She eventually grew to love them, and now denies that she ever didn't like them!!! First we abhor, then we tolerate, and then we finally embrace. It is awesome in salsas and guacamole!!! raincrone wrote:> Do you have more information about " cilantro-[soap] " gene? I don't recall which natural-health mag I first read it in, but not one of the flaky ones, and it looked to be a large and well-constructed study. And since then, I've learned more about it on the Chile-Heads' list. The effect has apprently been known to scientists for a longish time, but of course it hasn't been widely known to the public in the US till recently, when cilantro became (all too horribly) trendy. For roughly 20% of European-descended adults studied in the US, eating cilantro is like taking a honkin' big bite out of a bar of Irish Spring. And there's an oily, soap-too-recently-made-from-lard smell to the fresh stuff that makes some people, including me, genuinely nauseated. I don't have any information on whether it's present in other ethnic or national groups. I keep hearing from cilantro aficionados that it's possible for people with the gene to get used to the stuff, and even learn to like it. It may also be less evident in countries where people grow up on cilantro. But most people with the gene I've asked say they have no urge to try to " just get over it " , except possibly in self-defense. Rain " get that stuff away from me " Adkins :-) @@@@ \\\\\\ ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Thanks for the cilantro-gene information, Mark and Rain! This was rather interesting, although I doubt strongly, that there is something caleed a cilantro-gene. I do agrre with you, Mark.It does indeed rather have to do with dislikes and preferences of food, that we experience in our childhood years and apply on food, that reminds us of it. I found a website (one of many) dealing with cilantro and other vegetables like broccoli etc, and it certainly has to do with a fixed idea about how things smw#ell before trying them. http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/6529 There is an example of cooking broccoli and cauliflower as well, and I agree, these lovely vegetables don't smell great in the first phase of being prepared (nor do chickpeas by the way), but would anyone refuse to eat them just because of that? Stupid question, of course they would! I have met people by the way, who never tried broccoli insisting they don't like it! How do they know??? I had a lovely aunt (Bless her soul) who was a picky eater and would comment on a dish she did not know: " I might like it, but I won't try it. " That says it all. Gabriella " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men. " Leonardo da Vinci , Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47> wrote: > As one who happens to love cilantro( It is very good for you too!!!) I am powerless to explain why everyone does not like it!! How we are raised has alot to do with it. I recall when I was young, that my mother hated avocados, my father grew up on them, so we had avocados all the time. She eventually grew to love them, and now denies that she ever didn't like them!!! First we abhor, then we tolerate, and then we finally embrace. It is awesome in salsas and guacamole!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 > Thanks for the cilantro-gene information, Mark and Rain! This was > rather interesting, although I doubt strongly, that there is > something caleed a cilantro-gene. Whether it's called that or not, I have no idea, but I didn't just make up its existence out of whole cloth, and I've heard of it from multiple credible sources. If you doubt that, by all means do your own checking. Rain @@@@ \\\\\\ ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Rain, I did not doubt what you said or that the term exists! Sorry about the misunderstanding. Rather I doubt if the term is not made up rather than being a scientifically proven fact. A gene is something that is inherited and passed on: would this be true for the " cilantro-gene " as well then? That is the point where my doubts came in. Hugs, Gabriella , raincrone@j... wrote: > > Thanks for the cilantro-gene information, Mark and Rain! This was > > rather interesting, although I doubt strongly, that there is > > something caleed a cilantro-gene. > > Whether it's called that or not, I have no idea, but I didn't just make > up > its existence out of whole cloth, and I've heard of it from multiple > credible sources. If you doubt that, by all means do your own > checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 By the way gabriella, I posted my group site in the links section. Genes are genetic traits that are passed on from parents to children. In my studies of genetic traits, food preferences would be in that category.Food likes and dislikes from generations past would be genetically inherited, not that we couldn't change that!! It is not unreasonable then that genetic propensities to food would be passed on!!! Gabriella <gabriella_kapsaski wrote:Rain, I did not doubt what you said or that the term exists! Sorry about the misunderstanding. Rather I doubt if the term is not made up rather than being a scientifically proven fact. A gene is something that is inherited and passed on: would this be true for the " cilantro-gene " as well then? That is the point where my doubts came in. Hugs, Gabriella , raincrone@j... wrote: > > Thanks for the cilantro-gene information, Mark and Rain! This was > > rather interesting, although I doubt strongly, that there is > > something caleed a cilantro-gene. > > Whether it's called that or not, I have no idea, but I didn't just make > up > its existence out of whole cloth, and I've heard of it from multiple > credible sources. If you doubt that, by all means do your own > checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 > A gene is something that is inherited and passed on: would this be > true for the " cilantro-gene " as well then? Yes, it does appear to researchers to run in families. Which doesn't surprise me, since Mom had it and I and both my brothers do. Rain @@@@ \\\\\\ ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 This is amazing! I never would have thought that even preferences for food are inherited. Maybe it has to do with my refusal to accept things as generally given, but as you say, " not that we couldn't change that. " Thanks for posting the link, Mark! Gabriella , Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47> wrote: > By the way gabriella, I posted my group site in the links section. Genes are genetic traits that are passed on from parents to children. In my studies of genetic traits, food preferences would be in that category.Food likes and dislikes from generations past would be genetically inherited, not that we couldn't change that!! It is not unreasonable then that genetic propensities to food would be passed on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Which does indeed prove it, Rain! One never stops learning! If it would be a common vegetable, one could still insist on the influence of the surrounding, but cilantro is rather something most people don't grow up with on a regular level. I wonder if this applies to more food categories. I know that milk, yeast and wheat allergies are partly inherited and also, that ADD appears in the same families. Thanks for the information! Gabriella , raincrone@j... wrote: > > A gene is something that is inherited and passed on: would this be > > true for the " cilantro-gene " as well then? > > > Yes, it does appear to researchers to run in families. Which doesn't > surprise me, since Mom had it and I and both my brothers do. > > Rain > @@@@ > \\\\\\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 This happens when you answer before looking. I said happily " thanks for the link " and just went to look at it...where is it? Could you post it again, Mark? , Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47> wrote: > By the way gabriella, I posted my group site in the links section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 > If it would be a common vegetable, one could still insist on the > influence of the surrounding, but cilantro is rather something most > people don't grow up with on a regular level. We sure didn't, here in the lower Midwest and upper South. I'd never even heard of it till perhaps 15 or 16 years ago. Genetics is fascinating. As a teenager I wanted to be a genetic biochemist until I saw how much math I'd've had to pass. I hate math even worse than cilantro. :-) What's really fascinating to me, though, is to look back at how we middle-American types cooked in the '50s when I was a kid, and how we cook now, even those who haven't gone vegetarian. We are SO much more adventurous and international! Healthier cooks in many ways too, though Mom was ahead of her time in that respect, and some research says the nutrient content of American crops has gone sharply down, probably due to the role synthetic fertilizers appear to be playing in soil depletion. That's one very good reason I garden, by the way, and fertilize my veggies mainly with compost. <noshing on a ripe tomato> Taste is another. :-) Rain @@@@ \\\\\\ ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Where do you get your compost? Do you make it yourself? Ah, talking about tomatoes...ours started to grow (in their containers, but still) Can't wait...even the leaves smell so lovely! But I have no idea where to turn our kitchen garbage into compost, because we only have a terrace with neighbours who will complain seeing it. And inside the cats will add their parts, too. I think that this terrible habit of eating was something similar all over Northern and Middle Europe as well. I read the other day that for a certain time it was even very fashionable to eat only canned vegetables. I wouldn't want to know what they looked like 25 years ago! , raincrone@j... wrote: > > We sure didn't, here in the lower Midwest and upper South. > I'd never even heard of it till perhaps 15 or 16 years ago. > > Genetics is fascinating. As a teenager I wanted to be a genetic > biochemist until I saw how much math I'd've had to pass. I hate > math even worse than cilantro. :-) > > What's really fascinating to me, though, is to look back at how we > middle-American types cooked in the '50s when I was a kid, and > how we cook now, even those who haven't gone vegetarian. > We are SO much more adventurous and international! Healthier > cooks in many ways too, though Mom was ahead of her time in > that respect, and some research says the nutrient content of > American crops has gone sharply down, probably due to the role > synthetic fertilizers appear to be playing in soil depletion. That's > one very good reason I garden, by the way, and fertilize my > veggies mainly with compost. > > <noshing on a ripe tomato> Taste is another. :-) > > Rain > @@@@ > \\\\\\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Okay you got me!! I messed up. SORRY!!! I must have pushed the wrong button. I have now posted it, and it is there. IT is called becoming younger, and here is the link ... http://group.becomingyounger Gabriella <gabriella_kapsaski wrote:This happens when you answer before looking. I said happily " thanks for the link " and just went to look at it...where is it? Could you post it again, Mark? , Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47> wrote: > By the way gabriella, I posted my group site in the links section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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