Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 BS " D I was searching the internet and came upon this site: http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Hi Tsila! Thank you very much for the two articles! To be honest, now I am more than confused! I'll look around myself for more information. I do remember the discussions about soy a few years ago, but then they were talking about gene-manipulated soy. Gabriella , Tsila <tsilagroup> wrote: > BS " D > > > > I was searching the internet and came upon this site: > http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 After looking at a great number of Internet sites, finally I am as confused as before. Some say " yes " , others " no " - but lets assume that practically everything we eat and do IS dangerous, especially when consumed in a large amount. I am not sure but assume hardly anyone eats soy products on a daily basis and after all, isn't it a fact, that there is alweys one group of food being attacked for a certain time? Its 'yes and no' to fat, 'yes and no' to carbonhydrates, and after getting into the habit of drinking water (which I still hate and force myself to do), it is only filtered water, because bottled water has been found to be not as clean etc... Maybe it is partly a campaign ....(just guessing) after the Atkins diet proved not to be as fabulous as they pretended it was (he died overweight at a heart attack) and lets face it, meat is more expensive than soy. Maybe it is also true - after all, soy beans can't be eaten raw and are a manufactured product. Lentils and beans on the other hand (most of the food we eat) can't be consumed in its natural way (unless you are a raw foodist) And one more thing: vegetarians don't fit into the system, having a head of their own to think more globally than someone stuffing anything down his throat. A few more links if you are interested: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/701819.stm http://www.ruchihealth.com/soya/soya_imp.htm http://www.soytoy.com/soydanger.html http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/soysafe.html Stay well, have a wonderful weekend, and Shabbat Shalom! Gabriella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 BS " D Thank you for the links. I think I will be more cautious about soy. Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:27:50 -0000 " Gabriella " <gabriella_kapsaski Re: Soy Bean Bad For you? After looking at a great number of Internet sites, finally I am as confused as before. Some say " yes " , others " no " - but lets assume that practically everything we eat and do IS dangerous, especially when consumed in a large amount. I am not sure but assume hardly anyone eats soy products on a daily basis and after all, isn't it a fact, that there is alweys one group of food being attacked for a certain time? Its 'yes and no' to fat, 'yes and no' to carbonhydrates, and after getting into the habit of drinking water (which I still hate and force myself to do), it is only filtered water, because bottled water has been found to be not as clean etc... Maybe it is partly a campaign ....(just guessing) after the Atkins diet proved not to be as fabulous as they pretended it was (he died overweight at a heart attack) and lets face it, meat is more expensive than soy. Maybe it is also true - after all, soy beans can't be eaten raw and are a manufactured product. Lentils and beans on the other hand (most of the food we eat) can't be consumed in its natural way (unless you are a raw foodist) And one more thing: vegetarians don't fit into the system, having a head of their own to think more globally than someone stuffing anything down his throat. A few more links if you are interested: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/701819.stm http://www.ruchihealth.com/soya/soya_imp.htm http://www.soytoy.com/soydanger.html http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/soysafe.html Stay well, have a wonderful weekend, and Shabbat Shalom! Gabriella New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Tsila, I am still not sure how true all this information is. I have been thinking about this during the past few days and feel rather drawn apart between these different aspects. It is not so much the tofu or products made out of tofu we'd miss, but it involves spreads, yoghurts and milk as well, which would leave rather a strange hole in our menu. There are of course other options like almond milk etc, but to be honest, all this adds up on the supermarket bills. I get sometimes quite upset about so many products for vegetarians being so much more expensive, because it does not stop at the normal food. Its the vitamin tablets without gelantine, the biscuits, the icecream...I wonder why so much gelantine has to go into food anyway. Gabriella , Tsila <tsilagroup> wrote: > BS " D > > Thank you for the links. I think I will be more cautious about soy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Just a slight correction to your interesting note. Dr. Atkins died from of a major fall on ice which resulted in brain damage causing a coma from which he did not wake and a subsequent heart attack. He was not fat but did weigh more than he had several years before. This info comes from a New York Times article about his accident. The diet itself is usually misunderstood by people who have not read the book all the way through. I am not on the diet currently but did lose 30 pounds and maintained that loss for years. The part most people quote and say is dangerous etc. only lasts a couple of days. As people lose weight they add back, very slowly first non starchy vegetables and low glycemic fruits. No diet or way of eating advocates cake, ice cream, sugar loaded recipes or huge sandwiches on white cotton bread. That being said, people who need the Atkins plan are told to take vitamins, drink water, and never to eat until stuffed. I do expect to go back to the plan. It is not easy being a vegetarian and following it because of the protein limitations but my husband managed to lose 20 lbs with his version of the plan using many different cheeses, eggs, and even tofu and veggie burgers. Sorry this is long but I felt that I had to respond and hope this doesn't sound contentious as it is not meant that way.. Jeb - Tsila Sunday, August 01, 2004 1:19 PM Re: Soy Bean Bad For you? BS " D Thank you for the links. I think I will be more cautious about soy. Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:27:50 -0000 " Gabriella " <gabriella_kapsaski Re: Soy Bean Bad For you? After looking at a great number of Internet sites, finally I am as confused as before. Some say " yes " , others " no " - but lets assume that practically everything we eat and do IS dangerous, especially when consumed in a large amount. I am not sure but assume hardly anyone eats soy products on a daily basis and after all, isn't it a fact, that there is alweys one group of food being attacked for a certain time? Its 'yes and no' to fat, 'yes and no' to carbonhydrates, and after getting into the habit of drinking water (which I still hate and force myself to do), it is only filtered water, because bottled water has been found to be not as clean etc... Maybe it is partly a campaign ....(just guessing) after the Atkins diet proved not to be as fabulous as they pretended it was (he died overweight at a heart attack) and lets face it, meat is more expensive than soy. Maybe it is also true - after all, soy beans can't be eaten raw and are a manufactured product. Lentils and beans on the other hand (most of the food we eat) can't be consumed in its natural way (unless you are a raw foodist) And one more thing: vegetarians don't fit into the system, having a head of their own to think more globally than someone stuffing anything down his throat. A few more links if you are interested: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/701819.stm http://www.ruchihealth.com/soya/soya_imp.htm http://www.soytoy.com/soydanger.html http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/soysafe.html Stay well, have a wonderful weekend, and Shabbat Shalom! Gabriella New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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