Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 I'm 19 and live in the Chicago area. And the only vegan I know personally! Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 trust me you're not alone! i'm 18 and live in the middle of kansas, and the only vegan in my town, that i know of. so it's always nice to join groups like this one and meet fellow vegans! =) ~*kate*~ _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2001 Report Share Posted February 13, 2001 > lol, wot made u turn vegan? Read some leaflets on the production of eggs+milk. needless to say i didn't want to eat them after that!! what about u ? sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 > lol, wot made u turn vegan? > Read some leaflets on the production of eggs+milk. needless to say i > didn't want to eat them after that!! > i think this came up on this list a while ago, someone [ somewhere ] mentioned about the heavy use of chicken manure in the artificial cultivation of mushrooms and i wonder if anyone had confirmed this? it would seem to be on an ethical par with leather financially supporting the meat industry or honey. knowing my mushrooms a little, i guess wild ones would still pass as kosher and some breeds like shiitake that require special circumstances, such as old tree trunks to grow on. but the common or garden supermarket ones must be out then. it is interesting that strict hindus, who know a bit about vegetarianism, do not consider mushroom sattvic or pure although for slightly different reason. just as they dont consider eggs to be either. there was a shocking story in the evening standard the other week about a women who bought a tray of free range quail eggs and out of curiosity incubated them. out popped half a dozen little speckled chicks at the end of it. a good awakener to those slacker vegetarian. what sort of vegetable is a quail? so are mushrooms off the menu? john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 I don't know about mushrooms as I think they're gross! (look like sliced slugs if you ask me!), but I was reading the other day that some teas are tested on animals and was wondering what else we should be avoiding due to animal testing. I suppose it would mainly be artificial chemicals and things like that? vegan-network, another john <jallan@f...> wrote: > > lol, wot made u turn vegan? > > > Read some leaflets on the production of eggs+milk. needless to say i > > didn't want to eat them after that!! > > > > i think this came up on this list a while ago, someone [ somewhere ] > mentioned about the heavy use of chicken manure in the artificial > cultivation of mushrooms and i wonder if anyone had confirmed this? > > it would seem to be on an ethical par with leather financially supporting > the meat industry or honey. > > knowing my mushrooms a little, i guess wild ones would still pass as > kosher and some breeds like shiitake that require special circumstances, > such as old tree trunks to grow on. but the common or garden supermarket > ones must be out then. > > it is interesting that strict hindus, who know a bit about vegetarianism, > do not consider mushroom sattvic or pure although for slightly different > reason. just as they dont consider eggs to be either. > > there was a shocking story in the evening standard the other week about a > women who bought a tray of free range quail eggs and out of curiosity > incubated them. out popped half a dozen little speckled chicks at the end > of it. a good awakener to those slacker vegetarian. > > what sort of vegetable is a quail? > > so are mushrooms off the menu? > > john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 a quail is a small bird!! - " another john " <jallan <vegan-network > Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:51 PM re: just curious > > lol, wot made u turn vegan? > > > Read some leaflets on the production of eggs+milk. needless to say i > > didn't want to eat them after that!! > > > > i think this came up on this list a while ago, someone [ somewhere ] > mentioned about the heavy use of chicken manure in the artificial > cultivation of mushrooms and i wonder if anyone had confirmed this? > > it would seem to be on an ethical par with leather financially supporting > the meat industry or honey. > > knowing my mushrooms a little, i guess wild ones would still pass as > kosher and some breeds like shiitake that require special circumstances, > such as old tree trunks to grow on. but the common or garden supermarket > ones must be out then. > > it is interesting that strict hindus, who know a bit about vegetarianism, > do not consider mushroom sattvic or pure although for slightly different > reason. just as they dont consider eggs to be either. > > there was a shocking story in the evening standard the other week about a > women who bought a tray of free range quail eggs and out of curiosity > incubated them. out popped half a dozen little speckled chicks at the end > of it. a good awakener to those slacker vegetarian. > > what sort of vegetable is a quail? > > so are mushrooms off the menu? > > john > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 bout a year ago my food tech. teacher wanted us to draw diagrams of animal carcuses and label them: haunch, leg, etc. so, i went up to her and told her that i didnt want to do it as i woz vegetarian at the time. she didnt see why and proceeded to go on about how it was almost certainly in the exam. then the whole class got involved, lol, it woz v memorable. she made all sorts of comments, one of which being that she'd been vegetarian for 7 years but had stopped (she didnt tell me why) as if it would help, but then she said that once she had a student who woz vegan, he wore no leather, no wool, but he drew pictures of cheese (am i the only one that thinks thats the last attempt of a desperate woman?). i won the argument and didnt draw the diagrams. but when i got home i thought about wot she said about vegans, first just 2 spite her i read about them on the internet, wot i read shocked me more than ive ever been before, i felt so sick and ashamed of wot id inadvertently been a part of. i became vegan on the spot and after dutiful searching found that all i could eat woz peanut butter on dry crackers, lol the look on my teachers face when she found out wot had happened i will never forget, so instead of watching a demonstration from the meat marketing board (fish demonstration) she got me to work out a 5min presentation about being veg for next lesson. wot shocked her the most woz that it woz a success - and me i think! i'll probably stop now! vegan-network, suzy.grayson@n... wrote: > > > lol, wot made u turn vegan? > > Read some leaflets on the production of eggs+milk. needless to say i > didn't want to eat them after that!! > > what about u ? > > sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Shortly after I turned vegan I went to an all organic cafe in London, ordered the stir-fry after being assured it was ok for me, then realised it had honey in it. I stopped eating it, but although they didn't charge me when I pointed out that something with honey wasn't considered vegan, they weren't apologetic, and I was told that the chef wanted to speak to me. So I speak to one of the chefs and he's got a bit of an accent so it's difficult to understand him , but he was basically saying that if you eat mushrooms then you might as well eat honey, because they grow mushrooms on bone-meal and blood (or something). Plus, I know that a lot are grown on horse manure. However, loads of vegetables, even organic, use bone & blood in the commercial growing process as far as I know. Sorry to be negative, but as far as I know the only way to be 100% vegan is to grow your own or be REALLY careful about your sources. >another john <jallan >vegan-network ><vegan-network > > re: just curious >Thu, 15 Feb 01 14:51:33 +0000 > > > lol, wot made u turn vegan? > > > Read some leaflets on the production of eggs+milk. needless to say i > > didn't want to eat them after that!! > > > >i think this came up on this list a while ago, someone [ somewhere ] >mentioned about the heavy use of chicken manure in the artificial >cultivation of mushrooms and i wonder if anyone had confirmed this? > >it would seem to be on an ethical par with leather financially supporting >the meat industry or honey. > >knowing my mushrooms a little, i guess wild ones would still pass as >kosher and some breeds like shiitake that require special circumstances, >such as old tree trunks to grow on. but the common or garden supermarket >ones must be out then. > >it is interesting that strict hindus, who know a bit about vegetarianism, >do not consider mushroom sattvic or pure although for slightly different >reason. just as they dont consider eggs to be either. > >there was a shocking story in the evening standard the other week about a >women who bought a tray of free range quail eggs and out of curiosity >incubated them. out popped half a dozen little speckled chicks at the end >of it. a good awakener to those slacker vegetarian. > >what sort of vegetable is a quail? > >so are mushrooms off the menu? > >john _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 so, is it best to buy organic or not?...and how can you really tell that it is organic and not some marketing ploy to get our cash?! vegan-network, " Emily Howarth " <dropscone@h...> wrote: > > Shortly after I turned vegan I went to an all organic cafe in London, > ordered the stir-fry after being assured it was ok for me, then realised it > had honey in it. I stopped eating it, but although they didn't charge me > when I pointed out that something with honey wasn't considered vegan, they > weren't apologetic, and I was told that the chef wanted to speak to me. So I > speak to one of the chefs and he's got a bit of an accent so it's difficult > to understand him , but he was basically saying that if you eat mushrooms > then you might as well eat honey, because they grow mushrooms on bone-meal > and blood (or something). Plus, I know that a lot are grown on horse manure. > However, loads of vegetables, even organic, use bone & blood in the > commercial growing process as far as I know. Sorry to be negative, but as > far as I know the only way to be 100% vegan is to grow your own or be REALLY > careful about your sources. > > >another john <jallan@f...> > >vegan-network > ><vegan-network> > > re: just curious > >Thu, 15 Feb 01 14:51:33 +0000 > > > > > lol, wot made u turn vegan? > > > > > Read some leaflets on the production of eggs+milk. needless to say i > > > didn't want to eat them after that!! > > > > > > >i think this came up on this list a while ago, someone [ somewhere ] > >mentioned about the heavy use of chicken manure in the artificial > >cultivation of mushrooms and i wonder if anyone had confirmed this? > > > >it would seem to be on an ethical par with leather financially supporting > >the meat industry or honey. > > > >knowing my mushrooms a little, i guess wild ones would still pass as > >kosher and some breeds like shiitake that require special circumstances, > >such as old tree trunks to grow on. but the common or garden supermarket > >ones must be out then. > > > >it is interesting that strict hindus, who know a bit about vegetarianism, > >do not consider mushroom sattvic or pure although for slightly different > >reason. just as they dont consider eggs to be either. > > > >there was a shocking story in the evening standard the other week about a > >women who bought a tray of free range quail eggs and out of curiosity > >incubated them. out popped half a dozen little speckled chicks at the end > >of it. a good awakener to those slacker vegetarian. > > > >what sort of vegetable is a quail? > > > >so are mushrooms off the menu? > > > >john > > ____________________ ___ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 >good on ya anna, think you need a bit of help with your sandwich fillings >though!! _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Well, from an environmental stand I prefer to buy organic, and from a vegan viewpoint I think that organic farmers are more likely to be conscientious about the use they make of animals and the ways they prevent crop destruction, but organic farmers are going to use animal by-products just as much as conventional farmers probably. Biodynamic is the next level up - they try to be in harmony with nature more than Organic farmers, who sometimes seem to be in it mostly for the hype, but as far as I know even biodynamic farmers use manure. But it's really a question of levels - we all know that its pretty much impossible to be 100% vegan when you go into the origins of all ingredients. As to the trust issue the Soil Association does test out stuff for pesticide levels, and have been known to take away organic status of producers who do not adhere to their rules, and they have been going for some time so I would trust them to do what they say they do. >blue143 >vegan-network >vegan-network > Re: just curious >Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:05:43 -0000 > > >so, is it best to buy organic or not?...and how can you really tell >that it is organic and not some marketing ploy to get our cash?! > _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 vegan-network, " mr big " <pervyempire@h...> wrote: > > > > >good on ya anna, think you need a bit of help with your sandwich fillings > >though!! > ____________________ ___ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. lol, i think i've improved a little since then! ne suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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