Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 >Earning in a year what my family and contempories would take >at least 5 years to earn, and in a job where I can have a possitive >engaging effect on peoples lives. if your influence on this list has been anything to go by i would like to know what you do and who judges that it has " possitive engaging effect on peoples lives " . now you boast that you earn at least 75,000 pounds a year [ given the 15,000 is a mean average ]. perhaps as much as 125,000 pounds as the average wage is 25,000. my worst fear is that you must be another leach working for some government quango with a sale pitch like that. >I don`t slam or condemn any lifestyle. To box things up, or to stop >people doing things is never going to work. if you dont make guns, people dont get shot. if you dont make cigarettes, they dont die of cancer. if you dont sanction investment into animal abuse, animals dont suffer. without all the self-interested propoganda, may be people *could* be allowed to make right decisions. just as the gin mills of the industrial revolution continue, used to keep down the working classes, so the recreational drug industry. criticisms of the reality of which you avoid answering. >I haven`t been elevated at all during the last few days, just frustrated >and annoyed at how intolerant we all can be. you are comdemning us as intolerant? look to yourself MrBiG. you post private mails on list, mail women to " f* off " , put down middle class people that probably earn alot less than you, make all sorts of hysterical accusations such as " far right " , publicly promote illegal acts as a solution, stir flame wars and now, deliver a sanctimonious little sermon at the end of it. >MrBiG i think that you are not so big, just another me person. so what " radical and pro-active " suggestions do you have to make? what good do you have to offer? john .... fancy a cigarette? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 GO Lucy! Come on lads and ladettes! We are supposed to be on here to make mates and meet up and share our vision and have a laugh. Could people please swallow their pride (the vegan variety of course, 100% wholewheat with added vegan vitamins, hehe) and start enjoying each other's company again please. We come together for mutual support so let's stop being so down on each other and look for something else to shake a stick at, preferably something constructive that unites us. Any of you live in Lancashire, by the way? Markie XXXXXXX )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 DO you two ]John/Mr Big]know each other ?you seem to have a very strong love/hate relationship.I think Mr Big argues for the sake of it .and perhaps it would be better if we try not to rise to the bait!! - " john allan " <jallan <vegan-network > Tuesday, March 06, 2001 3:28 AM re: And Finally ... > >Earning in a year what my family and contempories would take > >at least 5 years to earn, and in a job where I can have a possitive > >engaging effect on peoples lives. > > if your influence on this list has been anything to go by i would like to > know what you do and who judges that it has > > " possitive engaging effect on peoples lives " . > > now you boast that you earn at least 75,000 pounds a year [ given the > 15,000 is a mean average ]. > > perhaps as much as 125,000 pounds as the average wage is 25,000. > > my worst fear is that you must be another leach working for some > government quango with a sale pitch like that. > > >I don`t slam or condemn any lifestyle. To box things up, or to stop > >people doing things is never going to work. > > if you dont make guns, people dont get shot. > if you dont make cigarettes, they dont die of cancer. > if you dont sanction investment into animal abuse, animals dont suffer. > > without all the self-interested propoganda, may be people *could* be > allowed to make right decisions. > > just as the gin mills of the industrial revolution continue, used to keep > down the working classes, so the recreational drug industry. > > criticisms of the reality of which you avoid answering. > > >I haven`t been elevated at all during the last few days, just frustrated > >and annoyed at how intolerant we all can be. > > you are comdemning us as intolerant? > > look to yourself MrBiG. > > you post private mails on list, > mail women to " f* off " , > put down middle class people that probably earn alot less than you, > make all sorts of hysterical accusations such as " far right " , > publicly promote illegal acts as a solution, > stir flame wars > > and now, > > deliver a sanctimonious little sermon at the end of it. > > >MrBiG > > i think that you are not so big, just another me person. > > so what " radical and pro-active " suggestions do you have to make? > > what good do you have to offer? > > john > > ... fancy a cigarette? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 I am looking forward to Meeting Mr Allen (who accuses me of hiding behind my pc), if he accepts my invitation. I don`t think it will be a pleasent affair. Actually I work for a small production company developing cartoon animation concepts for children...All are socially reponsible. I did not say £75000. I said 5 times the average of where I grew up. (west belfast) the average wage there hovers around £6000 And I dont need you to remind me of my intolerance, I already said " WE " ok smart arse? p.s. what do you do for a living? >john allan <jallan >vegan-network ><vegan-network > > re: And Finally ... >Tue, 6 Mar 01 03:28:38 +0000 > > >Earning in a year what my family and contempories would take > >at least 5 years to earn, and in a job where I can have a possitive > >engaging effect on peoples lives. > >if your influence on this list has been anything to go by i would like to >know what you do and who judges that it has > > " possitive engaging effect on peoples lives " . > >now you boast that you earn at least 75,000 pounds a year [ given the >15,000 is a mean average ]. > >perhaps as much as 125,000 pounds as the average wage is 25,000. > >my worst fear is that you must be another leach working for some >government quango with a sale pitch like that. > > >I don`t slam or condemn any lifestyle. To box things up, or to stop > >people doing things is never going to work. > >if you dont make guns, people dont get shot. >if you dont make cigarettes, they dont die of cancer. >if you dont sanction investment into animal abuse, animals dont suffer. > >without all the self-interested propoganda, may be people *could* be >allowed to make right decisions. > >just as the gin mills of the industrial revolution continue, used to keep >down the working classes, so the recreational drug industry. > >criticisms of the reality of which you avoid answering. > > >I haven`t been elevated at all during the last few days, just frustrated > >and annoyed at how intolerant we all can be. > >you are comdemning us as intolerant? > >look to yourself MrBiG. > >you post private mails on list, >mail women to " f* off " , >put down middle class people that probably earn alot less than you, >make all sorts of hysterical accusations such as " far right " , >publicly promote illegal acts as a solution, >stir flame wars > >and now, > >deliver a sanctimonious little sermon at the end of it. > > >MrBiG > >i think that you are not so big, just another me person. > >so what " radical and pro-active " suggestions do you have to make? > >what good do you have to offer? > >john > >... fancy a cigarette? _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 This sounds suspiciously to me like it could be a threat of violence and as such has surely to be unacceptable to the list. Are the moderators going to tolerate this? Lesley > > I am looking forward to Meeting Mr Allen (who accuses me of hiding behind my > pc), if he accepts my invitation. I don`t think it will be a pleasent > affair. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 Hayley is the list owner - not sure if she is around just now - I am a moderater. I don't want to get all heavy on the list but any more 'threats' and 'f' offs and I may exercise my power...ooh the power... I know things have been getting a bit heated. I have been really busy and have not had time to read all of the mails - just exercise common decency and respect of differing views please Lucy (power crazed vegan Lesley Dove <100706.3632vegan-network <vegan-network >06 March 2001 12:30 Re: And Finally ...This sounds suspiciously to me like it could be a threat of violence and as such has surely to be unacceptable to the list.Are the moderators going to tolerate this?Lesley> > I am looking forward to Meeting Mr Allen (who accuses me of hiding behind my > pc), if he accepts my invitation. I don`t think it will be a pleasent > affair.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 ok...no safety or surprize....the end (of story) I will say no more on the subject. kisses and hugs to everyone. MrBiG _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 nottingham angie - <earthkid26 <vegan-network > Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:09 PM Re: Re: And Finally ... > GO Lucy! > > Come on lads and ladettes! We are supposed to be on here to make mates and meet up and share our vision and have a laugh. Could people please swallow their pride (the vegan variety of course, 100% wholewheat with added vegan vitamins, hehe) and start enjoying each other's company again please. We come together for mutual support so let's stop being so down on each other and look for something else to shake a stick at, preferably something constructive that unites us. Any of you live in Lancashire, by the way? > Markie > XXXXXXX )) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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