Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 The Eden Project (now that it is open and not charging for the loo!!!) is a fantastic place. They are trying to encourage people to become interested in the environment and also they are doing wonderful work with rare plants. All the plants and trees are put in sections ie. Malaysia and they teach you how plants are used in each area - ie. using plants to make their houses, rubber, even Manila brown envelopes! They don't want it to be considered as a " tourist attraction " but just want people more aware in the new millenium of how we have to look after our planet. It is so inspiring! Especially when a lot of the people will never visit for example the jungle. All the jungle plants and trees were magnificent. You really did think you were there, especially with the heat, waterfalls, huts etc. On the way out nearly everyone was buying plants. Who knows, maybe they will want a plant eating way of life too!!! ~~ Jane C ~~ (Devon) - " mertle blu " <mertleblu <vegan-network > Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:33 AM Re: New Vegan > > After 3 days camping out in paignton me and my little family decided to pop > in on The Eden Project on the way home, just to have a nosey, this was when > it was still in the process of being built. > > People were visiting the site to see how it was been constructed etc...we > did`nt go in as we were skint and it was very expensive...anyway they tried > to charge me for wanting to use their loo!!!...sod off!. > Anyway are plants for the future those hideous plastic plants that stand on > the path to the entrance of The Eden Project?. > > mertle > > > > > >Where is Plants for a Future?????? I went to the Eden Project in Cornwall > >yesterday. Is that what you mean? It was fantastic!!! I would recommend > >it to anyone, especially if you are interested in the environment. The > >tropical biome was 31 degrees and very humid. A fine mist was released > >every few minutes and I had to take my coat off and roll up my sleeves. My > >husband's glasses steamed up! The tropical plants and trees (especially > >the > >near-extinction ones) were a real treat! A must for all world loving > >vegans! > > > >Hope that's what you meant by Plants for a Future. > > > >~~ Jane C ~~ > > > > > >- > > " Heyman Michael " <Michael_heyman > ><vegan-network > > >Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:31 AM > >Re: New Vegan > > > > > > > > > > Have you been to Plants for a Future? > > > > > > --- Vaughan <vaughan-vn wrote: > > I > > > live in Devon in England. No, I don't know any > > > > vegetarians living near > > > > > me, let alone vegans. > > > > > > > > Where abouts in Devon do you live ? I spent a good > > > > few years as a vegan in > > > > Devon. I lived outside of Plymouth, which isn't too > > > > bad if you're vegan. > > > > Totnes is also a bit of a mecca for anything v*gan, > > > > I never had much trouble > > > > eating around there. > > > > > > > > Vaughan > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 Here's the other side of the Eden Project coin... Plants for a Future (PFAF) is a really cool project, they are actually growing and researching useful plants that can be grown in this country (ie: they are producing something of value) PFAF is full-on-vegan, but they get very little support from the 'mainstream' and they have met with every kind of resistance by the local authorities; they were not even allowed to build composting toilets on their land! A few miles away from Plants for a Future, the biggest greenhouse in the world has being constructed at enourmous cost. The Eden project is essentially the same thing as a zoo, but it's a zoo for ecosystems instead of animals. It does not generate any new information (eg: how can we live more harmoniously with the planet?). The main 'benefit' of the project is to bring tourism into Cornwall - this means more roads, and perpetuates the complete reliance of Cornwall on the tourist trade (bad). Sure, it's educational, and I'm sure it's an amazing experience, but think of the environmental impact of the project (construction, materials, energy) weighed against the benefits. They trashed nearby countryside to put in access roads to the project in the face of protest, and the extra cars coming into the county that are generated by the project will certainly add to the already huge number of cars on overcrowded roads. This means ... More roads (for example, the A30 widening at Goss-Moor - will trash an SSSI) Don't be fooled! The eden project exists for two reasons only: 1: To bring more tourism into Cornwall 2: To boost Tim Schmitt's ego (He's the 'main man' behind the project) If you're thinking of going to the Eden project, why not save your money and support Plants for a Future instead; they need every bit of help thay can. Plants for a Future: Vegan, practical, useful Eden Project: Not Vegan, not practical, not useful. >The Eden Project (now that it is open and not charging for the loo!!!) is a >fantastic place. They are trying to encourage people to become interested >in the environment and also they are doing wonderful work with rare plants. >All the plants and trees are put in sections ie. Malaysia and they teach you >how plants are used in each area - ie. using plants to make their houses, >rubber, even Manila brown envelopes! They don't want it to be considered as >a " tourist attraction " but just want people more aware in the new millenium >of how we have to look after our planet. It is so inspiring! Especially >when a lot of the people will never visit for example the jungle. All the >jungle plants and trees were magnificent. You really did think you were >there, especially with the heat, waterfalls, huts etc. On the way out nearly everyone was buying plants. Who knows, maybe they will want a plant eating way of life too!!! ~~ Jane C ~~ (Devon) - " mertle blu " <mertleblu <vegan-network > Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:33 AM Re: New Vegan > > After 3 days camping out in paignton me and my little family decided to pop > in on The Eden Project on the way home, just to have a nosey, this was when > it was still in the process of being built. > > People were visiting the site to see how it was been constructed etc...we > did`nt go in as we were skint and it was very expensive...anyway they tried > to charge me for wanting to use their loo!!!...sod off!. > Anyway are plants for the future those hideous plastic plants that stand on > the path to the entrance of The Eden Project?. > > mertle > > > > > >Where is Plants for a Future?????? I went to the Eden Project in Cornwall > >yesterday. Is that what you mean? It was fantastic!!! I would recommend > >it to anyone, especially if you are interested in the environment. The > >tropical biome was 31 degrees and very humid. A fine mist was released > >every few minutes and I had to take my coat off and roll up my sleeves. My > >husband's glasses steamed up! The tropical plants and trees (especially > >the > >near-extinction ones) were a real treat! A must for all world loving > >vegans! > > > >Hope that's what you meant by Plants for a Future. > > > >~~ Jane C ~~ > > > > > >- > > " Heyman Michael " <Michael_heyman > ><vegan-network > > >Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:31 AM > >Re: New Vegan > > > > > > > > > > Have you been to Plants for a Future? > > > > > > --- Vaughan <vaughan-vn wrote: > > I > > > live in Devon in England. No, I don't know any > > > > vegetarians living near > > > > > me, let alone vegans. > > > > > > > > Where abouts in Devon do you live ? I spent a good > > > > few years as a vegan in > > > > Devon. I lived outside of Plymouth, which isn't too > > > > bad if you're vegan. > > > > Totnes is also a bit of a mecca for anything v*gan, > > > > I never had much trouble > > > > eating around there. > > > > > > > > Vaughan > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 I can definitely see your point of view, but have you actually been to the Eden Project? I am not sure that all that you have said is valid, however, I am new to this list so I am not going to fall out with anyone! Prants for a Future sounds like a wonderful project. Where is it? Do tell us more! ~~ Jane C ~~ (Devon) - " matt " <matt <vegan-network > Sunday, April 15, 2001 3:56 PM Re: Eden > Here's the other side of the Eden Project coin... > > Plants for a Future (PFAF) is a really cool project, they are actually > growing and researching useful plants that can be grown in this country (ie: > they are producing something of value) > PFAF is full-on-vegan, but they get very little support from the > 'mainstream' and they have met with every > kind of resistance by the local authorities; they were not even allowed to > build composting toilets on their land! > > A few miles away from Plants for a Future, the biggest greenhouse in the > world has being constructed at > enourmous cost. > > The Eden project is essentially the same thing as a zoo, but it's a zoo for > ecosystems instead of animals. It > does not generate any new information (eg: how can we live more harmoniously > with the planet?). The main > 'benefit' of the project is to bring tourism into Cornwall - this means more > roads, and perpetuates the complete > reliance of Cornwall on the tourist trade (bad). > > Sure, it's educational, and I'm sure it's an amazing experience, but think > of the environmental impact > of the project (construction, materials, energy) weighed against the > benefits. They trashed nearby > countryside to put in access roads to the project in the face of protest, > and the extra cars coming into the > county that are generated by the project will certainly add to the already > huge number of cars on overcrowded > roads. This means ... More roads (for example, the A30 widening at > Goss-Moor - will trash an SSSI) > > Don't be fooled! The eden project exists for two reasons only: > 1: To bring more tourism into Cornwall > 2: To boost Tim Schmitt's ego (He's the 'main man' behind the project) > > If you're thinking of going to the Eden project, why not save your money and > support Plants for a Future > instead; they need every bit of help thay can. > > Plants for a Future: Vegan, practical, useful > Eden Project: Not Vegan, not practical, not useful. > > >The Eden Project (now that it is open and not charging for the loo!!!) is a > >fantastic place. They are trying to encourage people to become interested > >in the environment and also they are doing wonderful work with rare plants. > >All the plants and trees are put in sections ie. Malaysia and they teach > you > >how plants are used in each area - ie. using plants to make their houses, > >rubber, even Manila brown envelopes! They don't want it to be considered > as > >a " tourist attraction " but just want people more aware in the new millenium > >of how we have to look after our planet. It is so inspiring! Especially > >when a lot of the people will never visit for example the jungle. All the > >jungle plants and trees were magnificent. You really did think you were > >there, especially with the heat, waterfalls, huts etc. > > On the way out nearly everyone was buying plants. Who knows, maybe they > will want a plant eating way of life too!!! > > ~~ Jane C ~~ > (Devon) > > > - > " mertle blu " <mertleblu > <vegan-network > > Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:33 AM > Re: New Vegan > > > > > > After 3 days camping out in paignton me and my little family decided to > pop > > in on The Eden Project on the way home, just to have a nosey, this was > when > > it was still in the process of being built. > > > > People were visiting the site to see how it was been constructed etc...we > > did`nt go in as we were skint and it was very expensive...anyway they > tried > > to charge me for wanting to use their loo!!!...sod off!. > > Anyway are plants for the future those hideous plastic plants that stand > on > > the path to the entrance of The Eden Project?. > > > > mertle > > > > > > > > > > >Where is Plants for a Future?????? I went to the Eden Project in > Cornwall > > >yesterday. Is that what you mean? It was fantastic!!! I would > recommend > > >it to anyone, especially if you are interested in the environment. The > > >tropical biome was 31 degrees and very humid. A fine mist was released > > >every few minutes and I had to take my coat off and roll up my sleeves. > My > > >husband's glasses steamed up! The tropical plants and trees (especially > > >the > > >near-extinction ones) were a real treat! A must for all world loving > > >vegans! > > > > > >Hope that's what you meant by Plants for a Future. > > > > > >~~ Jane C ~~ > > > > > > > > >- > > > " Heyman Michael " <Michael_heyman > > ><vegan-network > > > >Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:31 AM > > >Re: New Vegan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you been to Plants for a Future? > > > > > > > > --- Vaughan <vaughan-vn wrote: > > I > > > > live in Devon in England. No, I don't know any > > > > > vegetarians living near > > > > > > me, let alone vegans. > > > > > > > > > > Where abouts in Devon do you live ? I spent a good > > > > > few years as a vegan in > > > > > Devon. I lived outside of Plymouth, which isn't too > > > > > bad if you're vegan. > > > > > Totnes is also a bit of a mecca for anything v*gan, > > > > > I never had much trouble > > > > > eating around there. > > > > > > > > > > Vaughan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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