Dating meat eaters

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> I woul be interested in views on dating meat eaters.I have been a

>vegetarian for 12years and recently turned vegan.

 

ONLY DATE A MEAT EATER IF THEY HAVE THAT 'THING' ABOUT THEM.

I find that with some people purely by getting them to listen and question your

views you will discover a 'good' person underneath that just didn't know.

Join some veggie groups or come on demos, you will find individuals there to

suit your taste - I am sure and if not there are branches from there you can

meet other people on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

My husband and I had an argument tonight and he decided to through in the

" vegetarian " thing (although I am actually a vegan)! He moaned that all his

friends share meals (ie. Chinese food put in the middle of the table) and

they help themselves but he feels deprived that he can't do that with me!

Ahhhh, poor him!!!!!! More like lucky animals who don't end up in my mouth!

I always cook his dinners so I don't know why he complained tonight. It's

not as if I insist on him eating my kind of food. I did think tonight that

we are so very different in our outlook on life and that maybe it would be

easier with an animal loving, vegan partner. BTW my husband is hoping to

become an MP in the not too distant future so what with politics (our recent

discussion) and his anti-veg*an views, we are like chalk and cheese!!! Life

could be easier ..............!

 

Jane

 

 

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<veggiestar2001

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Friday, May 04, 2001 8:39 PM

Dating meat eaters

 

 

> I woul be interested in views on dating meat eaters.I have been a

> vegetarian for 12years and recently turned vegan.In that time I have

> dated meat eaters.None of them have understood my views and going out

> for meals is a nightmare!!!I have now decided to only date

> vegetarians/vegans(who in my experience are few and far between).The

> lifestyle differences are too great,I certainly dont want meat or

> animal products in my home and the thought of kissing someone who has

> just eaten meat is gross!My friends and family think I am too over

> the top and that this is an extreme view,surely not??????

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi veggiestar!

 

>I have now decided to only date vegetarians/vegans(who in my

experience are few and far between).The lifestyle differences are too

great,I certainly dont want meat or animal products in my home and the

thought of kissing someone who has just eaten meat is gross!

 

I've been vegan for just over 1 and a half years and was veggie for 5

and a half years b4 that. I made a conscious decision a while back

that i didn't think a relationship could work properly unless the guy

was vegan, or at least veggie. For me veganism is much more than the

food you eat, it's a whole mindset and lifestyle. I'm so glad that

somebody else out there feels the same way I do! However, the part

about kissing meat eaters, i'm ashamed to say we differ on. Although

my experiences from last year draw me to the conclusion that most

omnivore men are tossers!!

 

You're right about veggie/vegan men being scarce. All the ones i know

are either with someone, gay or not my type!! I would suggest that you

and me meet up but i highly suspect you're female!!!! Would my

assumption be correct?

 

>My friends and family think I am too over the top and that this is an

extreme view,surely not??????

 

You're not the only one. People say that i might change someone if i

went out with them but i just couldn't stand the waiting(if it did

ever happen anyway!) I've always said that i wouldn't want someone to

go veggie to impress me and lo and behold it happened last year. He

denied that he did it for me but of course he was lying, although he's

gone back to his meat eating ways now because he said all the veggie

burgers was giving him the shits! Anybody got any advice i can give

him?

 

sue

[Guest guest]

Well, good luck girls!!!! Personally, I have all my

friends on the look out for a young vegan Christian

guy. They think I'm crazy (for a change!), but I

suspect it makes the single ones amongst them feel

better, in that they know they're more likely to get

paired off than I am!! Take heart in the allegedly

growing number of vegans in the world - surely all the

new ones can't be females! :-)

 

Mr Big - I'm an arts student as opposed to a science

student - unfortunately not terribly creative, in that

I'm a linguist (analysing books and films for the

course is as creative as it gets). I've been

suppressing my creative talents for a while, seeing as

how I draw more slowly than anyone I've ever met, and

wouldn't have time to study at all if I kept that up!

 

Hilary

 

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a while back <BR>

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so glad that <BR>

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about kissing meat eaters, i'm ashamed to say we

differ on. Although <BR>

my experiences from last year draw me to the

conclusion that most <BR>

omnivore men are tossers!!<BR>

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You're right about veggie/vegan men being scarce. All

the ones i know <BR>

are either with someone, gay or not my type!! I would

suggest that you <BR>

and me meet up but i highly suspect you're female!!!!

Would my <BR>

assumption be correct?<BR>

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You're not the only one. People say that i might

change someone if i <BR>

went out with them but i just couldn't stand the

waiting(if it did <BR>

ever happen anyway!) I've always said that i wouldn't

want someone to <BR>

go veggie to impress me and lo and behold it happened

last year. He <BR>

denied that he did it for me but of course he was

lying, although he's <BR>

gone back to his meat eating ways now because he said

all the veggie <BR>

burgers was giving him the shits! Anybody got any

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[Guest guest]

What will you do when you have children? you won't agree then about what

they should eat I couldn't live with an animal eater nor could I cook dead

bodies for them Angie

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" Jane Cuming " <jane.cuming

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Friday, May 04, 2001 10:37 PM

Re: Dating meat eaters

 

 

> My husband and I had an argument tonight and he decided to through in the

> " vegetarian " thing (although I am actually a vegan)! He moaned that all

his

> friends share meals (ie. Chinese food put in the middle of the table) and

> they help themselves but he feels deprived that he can't do that with me!

> Ahhhh, poor him!!!!!! More like lucky animals who don't end up in my

mouth!

> I always cook his dinners so I don't know why he complained tonight. It's

> not as if I insist on him eating my kind of food. I did think tonight

that

> we are so very different in our outlook on life and that maybe it would be

> easier with an animal loving, vegan partner. BTW my husband is hoping to

> become an MP in the not too distant future so what with politics (our

recent

> discussion) and his anti-veg*an views, we are like chalk and cheese!!!

Life

> could be easier ..............!

>

> Jane

>

>

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> <veggiestar2001

> <vegan-network >

> Friday, May 04, 2001 8:39 PM

> Dating meat eaters

>

>

> > I woul be interested in views on dating meat eaters.I have been a

> > vegetarian for 12years and recently turned vegan.In that time I have

> > dated meat eaters.None of them have understood my views and going out

> > for meals is a nightmare!!!I have now decided to only date

> > vegetarians/vegans(who in my experience are few and far between).The

> > lifestyle differences are too great,I certainly dont want meat or

> > animal products in my home and the thought of kissing someone who has

> > just eaten meat is gross!My friends and family think I am too over

> > the top and that this is an extreme view,surely not??????

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't know about dating, but certainly any kind of serious

relationship with a meat eater is a disaster waiting to happen! The

bridge between veganism and meating is so huge.

 

I married a fish eater (who'd given up other meat soon after we met).

My attitude from the start of our relationship was that if he chose

to make positive improvements to his lifestyle then that would be

entirely his decision. Not out to change him, I saw his changes as a

positive thing, and not the devious attempt to 'keep me' that it was

(rather niave on my part, but some lessons are harder than others

aren't they!).

 

He spent nearly five years with myself, sharing with him my healthy

example of compassion and love towards our natural planet. Still he

grew only a little wiser, refusing to open to the truth! It was

always destined for failure, and after recently separating I will not

entertain the thought of a relationship with a non-vegan. I don't

regret the experience, because it has been an opportunity for

enormous growth and helped me to understand many things about meat

eaters. Most people (i.e. non-vegans)are not ready to handle the

truth in our crazy world. We can only influence our partners with our

loving example, but if they don't change because of their own deep,

meaningful understanding, then the relationship will be doomed for

failure.

 

Kind regards

 

Anastasia

[Guest guest]

> I don't know about dating, but certainly any kind of serious

> relationship with a meat eater is a disaster waiting to happen! The

> bridge between veganism and meating is so huge.

>

I agree, when I was vegetarian and became a vegan, I had a meat-

eating boyfriend for a long time. It was a disaster because he didn't

have the concern or commitment to change, and although he admitted it

was the right thing to be vegetarian he never understood veganism.

>

> I married a fish eater (who'd given up other meat soon after we

met).

>

I married a man I met in animal rights, doing voluntary work at the

BUAV, and thought he would be happy to become vegan pretty soon as he

had given up meat and was just giving up fish when we got together.

Even then I was wrong, and some people who claim to be for animal

rights do not believe they are able to live as vegans. He was vegan

during our brief marriage, but gave it up after we split up, and even

ate fish again for a while. Most of his friends were vegan so he had

really no excuse, he had lots of support to stay vegan and still

chose not to. He was very weak-willed.

What is this nonsense about fish being more acceptable than eating

other animals, I've never understood that, have you?

When I gave up meat I didn't draw any distinction between meat and

fish, it never occured to me that there could be any distinction, it

was all murder, although going vegan took almost three years.

I am married now to Paul who is vegan.

>

> My attitude from the start of our relationship was that if he chose

> to make positive improvements to his lifestyle then that would be

> entirely his decision. Not out to change him, I saw his changes as

a

> positive thing, and not the devious attempt to 'keep me' that it

was

> (rather niave on my part, but some lessons are harder than others

> aren't they!).

>

> He spent nearly five years with myself, sharing with him my healthy

> example of compassion and love towards our natural planet. Still he

> grew only a little wiser, refusing to open to the truth! It was

> always destined for failure, and after recently separating I will

not

> entertain the thought of a relationship with a non-vegan. I don't

> regret the experience, because it has been an opportunity for

> enormous growth and helped me to understand many things about meat

> eaters. Most people (i.e. non-vegans)are not ready to handle the

> truth in our crazy world. We can only influence our partners with

our

> loving example, but if they don't change because of their own deep,

> meaningful understanding, then the relationship will be doomed for

> failure.

>

Not for everyone, I do know that some can and do make mixed

relationships work, but I don't really understand them, because it's

something so monstrous, I would not be able to be with someone who

believes it is OK to kill animals without need just to satisfy their

stomach. I can tolerate many differences and indeed celebrate many

differences between people, but not such a big difference as people

having such a lack of basic respect for life.

 

Lesley

 

>

> Kind regards

>

> Anastasia

[Guest guest]

It's a tough one. I was lucky enough to meet my GF when she was veggie and

I was meatie. I later went veggie and we both went vegan a couple of years

later. I still am amazed as to why it took so long for us to figure it.

My first inkling was, if meat is animal protein, isn't dairy and eggs? So

why do I eat that and not worry about it?

If I were single I wouldn't negate meaties, but I'd steer (intended) clear

of cow boys/girls. Keep an eye out for that meatie, like I was. Otherwise,

you could have me, but I'm taken... sorry .

 

 

veggiestar2001 [veggiestar2001]

04 May 2001 20:39

vegan-network

Dating meat eaters

 

 

I woul be interested in views on dating meat eaters.I have been a

vegetarian for 12years and recently turned vegan.In that time I have

dated meat eaters.None of them have understood my views and going out

for meals is a nightmare!!!I have now decided to only date

vegetarians/vegans(who in my experience are few and far between).The

lifestyle differences are too great,I certainly dont want meat or

animal products in my home and the thought of kissing someone who has

just eaten meat is gross!My friends and family think I am too over

the top and that this is an extreme view,surely not??????

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks J.Meghan!

 

You make a lot of sense!

[Guest guest]

I went veggie several years ago when a fellow I was just begginning to see

said to me something along the lines of " You an intelligent person, would

you explain to me why you aren't vegetarian? " I gave what the best

philisophical defense I did have, then was forced to admit that I didn't

know a great deal about the specifics of the animal industry. Being a

proponent of informed consumers, I aggreed to read up, and quickly turned

veggie. So don't disregard meat-eaters altogether, just test the waters

with them. See if they've 'got it in em'.

 

I knew I couldn't stay veggie forever. Not because I didn't like it, in

fact I loved it. I felt like I'd always been a veggie, and had lived all

my life previously in denial (in the closet, if you will). However, I

recognized the hipocracy and half-assedness of it from the start. Then I

met my current b/f. He and all his roommates were vegan, and surviving

just fine. I probed them with some nutritional questions, and decided it

was indeed possible to thrive on a vegan diet. I had been afraid to jump

into it w/o any support. But once I had an example to follow and people to

help, I went vegan immediately. So, if you meet a cute veggie who isn't

vegan yet, but is interested in and respectful of your veganism, give them

some time and support and see what happens.

 

And I just need to point out that I didn't make either change for anyone

else. It was never about 'getting the guy', it was about me. I the best in

other people as examples in improving myself. Giving up cigarettes,

however, was mainly so that I could kiss someone who didn't like

smokers. And thank goodness I did it too! I am forever grateful to that

person for giving me good reason to quit

 

I think you can probably tell from hanging out with a potential lover,

just how flexible and open-minded they are. And if they're not flexible

and open-minded, I don't think they'd be a good lover, vegan or not. Yeah,

I think these things are more important than where they are on the food

chain at the moment you meet. Flexibility and open-mindedness will allow

you to grow together towards better living. That's my two-cents on dating

meat-eaters.

 

J. Meghan

[Guest guest]

Hiya!!

 

>Then I met my current b/f. He and all his roommates were vegan, and

>surviving just fine.

 

Oh my god!! Are his roomates male, if so where do these people live, I

wanna move there!!! ;-))

 

>So, if you meet a cute veggie who isn't vegan yet, but is interested

>in and respectful of your veganism, give them some time and support

>and see what happens.

 

They've got to be cute have they??? Well, it would be a bonus,

wouldn't it!

 

Anyway, it was nice reading your story, much more interesting than my

vegan roots-usual story in that I read a leaflet blah blah blah...

 

> I think you can probably tell from hanging out with a potential

>lover, just how flexible and open-minded they are.

 

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind!!

 

Anyway, tell us about yourself especially your fave vegan junk food!!

 

Regards

sue

 

P.S An afterthought, talking about boyfs, does everybody know that

normal condoms aren't vegan?

[Guest guest]

We all know I am the aggressive sort so I'll say it:

 

Jane, if you are cooking meat it suggests to me that you don't exactly get the

vegan thing yet.

 

Stop cooking him meals - why are you anyway? It is the 21st century (man

talking).

 

I wouldn't cook meat for my girlfriend when I met her ('cos she ate it then).

The problem with veganism is it opens up a third party into the bargain.

 

Would you keep on the black woman slave (of the 1930s) even if you disagreed,

for her to iron and wash your husbands stuff?

 

The only reason you are stomaching cooking the meat is because you still see it

as meat - not as animal. When you put his sausages in the pan tomorrow morning

look at them, close your eyes and picture a pig washing itself in mud and then

look back at the pan.

 

As you pour his glass of milk picture the male calf being transported away from

his mother - from the field he knows (for up to one week anyway).

 

Then just tell your husband to do it himself.

 

You are not mad. You are not a silly woman.

(Incase he questions it - get some leaflets)

 

It frustrates me soooo much the number of women who tell me they would change

completely if they didn't have some man who wants his meat.

 

When these women bow to this pathetic pressure they are effectively saying, 'sod

the animal - kill it' so I get a quiet life. How self-centered is that?

 

I don't want to accuse you of being a hypocrite because I know you turned vegan

recently,

but,

how can you not eat meat because it is wrong - but still buy it and therefore

fund the very industry you wish to remove yourself from?

 

Sod it - I am gonna buy myself a factory and some battery cages - I HEARD I CAN

MAKE MONEY FROM THAT SO FUCK IT.

 

If something is morally wrong it just IS. Don't allow anyone to compromise your

attempts to live in a better and kinder environment.

 

Offensive Andy

 

 

>What will you do when you have children? you won't agree then about what

>theyshould eat

 

RE ANGIE's COMMENT:

How old are you? When do you 'plan' for children?

 

inquisitive Andy

 

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[Guest guest]

> P.S An afterthought, talking about boyfs, does everybody know that

> normal condoms aren't vegan?

 

Really? Why is this?

Which ones are vegan?

 

Not really an issue for me right now, but would be nice to know...

 

JustWondering

JustBeane

[Guest guest]

Whats a Condom?

 

 

>

>P.S An afterthought, talking about boyfs, does everybody know that

>normal condoms aren't vegan?

>

 

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