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> OOOoops..Lesley, you did it again...you forgot to change the

subject

> matter....did you forget?...or are you just rubbing it in Johns

face?.

>

>

> >What about the people who think they can fly and kill themselves by

> >jumping off tall buildings because they have lost touch with

reality?

> >Real tragedy it would be if they hadn't tried it and had lived

> >instead, huh?

>

> What I cangather by what you have just read is that the only

knowledge of

> drugs you have is what is spread across the Sun newspaper..am I

right?

>

I would have no idea what that pathetic sexist rag says, I don't buy

newspapers that objectify women's breasts, I find it offensive, in

fact my husband actually finds the Sun offensive too.

>

> I heard the one about people thinking that they can fly when they

are on LSD

> and I also heard about one man thinking he was an orange and pealed

loads of

> his skin off with a knife..mmmh, that`s 2 case out of a million or

billion.

>

> Also, what is reality?

>

Truth is hallucinogenic drugs are very dangerous, people really don't

know what they will end up doing.

Why take the chance? Do you have a death wish, what about your kids?

>

> >I really think you have some sort of mental illness and need help,

I

> >am serious, you have a problem. Maybe it was there before the drugs

> >or maybe (more likely) it is a long-term side-effect of the huge

> >amount of experimenting on yourself you did.

> >I've never said anything about being high on life, I tend to get

> >depressed actually, but I would not take drugs because sometimes I

am

> >sure I have good reasons to be depressed, I don't need " curing " , I

> >don't see it as me that is wrong or insane as a vegan in a non-

vegan

> >world, even though I am in the minority. I'd rather keep a firm

grip

> >on reality, thank you very much.

>

> Well you have lost there then, you havn`t got a clue about

reality...maybe

> you would like to inform yourself on the actual affects of cannabis

(for

> example)and what good it can do for communities....why don't you

check out

> the crime figures and social problems that accur in Holland, I

think you

> will find it helpful, judge only when you know the truth.

>

How about this?

http://www.nzedf.org.nz/marijuana.htm

More crime in Holland involving hard drugs has followed cannabis

tolerance.

Prohibition is working in Sweden better than liberal attitudes in Auz.

It is also as bad or possibly worse for the lungs than tobacco if

smoked.

I can inform myself perfectly well thank you.

I swear you and your hubby behave like you have some sort of vested

interest, you are quite evangelical in your promotion of drugs. I

wouldn't be surprised if you turned out to be dealers yourselves!

>

> >You can't do much good in the world if you are stoned or

> >hallucinating, no-one will take you seriously.

>

>

> I don't think you are in the position to say that, you have never

been

> stoned etc all you may have experienced is watching people who are

stoned.

> When I am sober from alcohol and I see people who are not it makes

me laugh

> and think that they look like twats...if I see people stuffing

their faces

> with junk food and pop that makes me think " yuck...thank god I`m

not doing

> that " I can say these things as I have been drunk and have had

periods where

> I have been gluttonous....the point is, YOU don't know what you can

do when

> you are on drugs, you have never tried them.

>

I don't need to gain any more bad habits thank you, it's hard enough

to work on controlling bad eating habits. I'm not so self-hating to

wish any more harm on myself.

 

Lesley

 

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Have you ever been to Sweden Lesley. I think you'd suit it.

Sweden's solution only " works " (I say that because I haven't seen the data)

because of their society, which is very different to most places.

The link you cite, at best is biased. It's government source with

newspapers backing. The worst part is there are NO REFERENCES to the claims

they make.

 

I'm sure it's convenient to believe Holland has huge drug problems, but

you've easily believed something with no references for your own beliefs.

This doesn't make it fact. Until I see credible research with references

not presented by the lurve puppy--- the media, Holland is one of the most

sensible places.

 

 

Lesley Dove [100706.3632]

15 May 2001 18:47

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