tossed salad: message to mertle

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People with cerebral palsy,might read these posts and be very hurt at the

physically competent people calling each other spastics,pasrticularly since

it was used at one time as an insult to people like themselves.

 

I have taught kids with cerebral palsey and it is an awful condition to be

saddled with.. I find the term offensive when the speaker means to offend

..There is nothing funny in cerebral palsey for those so afflicted.

Angie

 

 

 

 

Original Message -----

" Hannah Biddle " <hannah

<vegan-network >

Wednesday, May 16, 2001 6:30 PM

Re: tossed salad: message to mertle

 

 

 

.. As do many people behave in a way akin to those with cerebral palsy. So is

this

> indeed really such an insult? A mere observation I feel.

> Perhaps the moderator may feel the need to ban me for holding this

opinion. >

>

[Guest guest]

As for me, I'm just paranoid (especially about anti-vegan

discrimination), even without drugs!

 

I'm quite surprised you tried those nasty things, Lucy, cos I always

thought of you as someone who was always far too sensible for all

that nonsense, bowing to peer pressure, etc.

 

A concern for me is that as vegan parents we do have to try extra

hard to make sure that our behaviour is beyond reproach, because

there is so much prejudice against us already just for being vegan

and we don't need the anti-vegans getting ideas that we are a bunch

of irresponsible pot-smoking hippy types, who are living in a 1960's

time warp. Very much easier for them to discredit us if they can

accuse of being not so clear-headed as " normal " people.

I am very worried about the public perception of vegan families,

because like it or not some people like to lump us all together.

 

Social services harrassment has recently forced one vegan mum and

child from near London, off out of the country to an eco-village in

France. They will probably be very happy, but it's not right they had

to flee because of social services disapproval of a healthy, mostly

raw food lifestyle, while in fact other parents in her area did all

sorts of drugs and were completely left alone by social services! She

seems such a clean-living person, it's so unfair.

If a vegan of that sort is persecuted, how much worse will it be for

those with some bad habits?

 

It sometimes looks like social services don't actually care if

parents take drugs or smoke, etc, but if the parents are vegan and do

these things, it would be extra ammo for social services to use

against them, even if their real concern is the veganism.

 

Lesley

 

 

> Bye Hannah - my tree comment was a joke btw. I have actually

partaken of 'spliff' in the past - but maybe that wasn't me you were

referring to. I haven't been involved in the drugs debate here being

very uncomfortable in the role of mod.

> I, too am sorry to see what this has all deteriorated into,

>

> Lucy