RE: population ethics (not the subject change !)

[Guest guest]

Yes, but everything is " perceived " . There is a population problem, either

we have to cull 4 billion people in the next 100-200 years or people need to

be vegan. I suspect if we don't cull or go vegan, the earth will. This is

why I feel less guilty about driving my car to and from work. If I had an

option to take public transport, I would. If the roads were safe enough for

me to cycle, I would. Who wants to drive the same boring trip to work every

day? That's why I car share. People amaze me. I work for an automotive

supply company for my undergrad placement, I could count all the cars that

fill the car parks and 95% of them have 1 person in. It's such a simple

thing to give car share parking priority. In the age of computers, we could

have software that organises car pooling routes, everyone inputs their post

code and you could quarter peak traffic. Until economics are on our side, I

can't see anything happening fast. Tax all things on pollution and most

people would be veggie/vegan, or very rich.

 

 

Lesley Dove [100706.3632]

So, because meat-eaters are the ones responsible for the (perceived)

population problem, vegans have no reason to feel guilty for having

children, because there is not in reality any such thing as a

population problem, it just might appear that way because of meat-

eaters and their unsustainable lifestyle.

This is why I refuse to let Sara's comments make me feel like a bad

vegan for having children.

 

Lesley

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, all vegan women should be constantly pregnant. We could get a

rota of vegan men going. ONLY KIDDING!

Better yet, adopt non-vegan children (discrimination permitting) and you'd

even better off. Tax bonus all around is what I say!

 

 

Ashley Hooper [ash_hooper]

23 May 2001 13:37

vegan-network

Re: Re: population ethics (not the subject

change!)

 

 

I think by all rights children being born into vegan families should be

absolutely encouraged!! without a doubt!!! besides directly increasing the

number of vegans in the world and making it less of an obscure dietary

'experiment', those born into vegan families one would hope would have an

interest in green issues and animal rights etc.

 

think of the positive contribution you yourself can and have made to

veganism and the planet's health, now multiply that by anybody you have

'converted' or given birth to, each person can make a hell of a difference

if they care.

 

 

Lesley Dove 100706.3632

Wed, 23 May 2001 12:02:26 -0000

vegan-network

Re: population ethics (not the subject change!)

 

 

vegan-network, " Mccartney, Rowan (R.N.) " <rmccar14@v...>

wrote:

> Reading that downloadable book (http://www.vegan.com), an expert

(?) says

> the planet can only support 2 billion people sustainably, that's 3

times

> less than now. The only reason we can support 6 billion is due to

> petrochemical fertilisers and pesticides. If everyone were vegan

the planet

> could support near 7 billion, sustainably.

>

So, because meat-eaters are the ones responsible for the (perceived)

population problem, vegans have no reason to feel guilty for having

children, because there is not in reality any such thing as a

population problem, it just might appear that way because of meat-

eaters and their unsustainable lifestyle.

This is why I refuse to let Sara's comments make me feel like a bad

vegan for having children.

 

Lesley