Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 I was inspired by Rowan, and am now on the yogic diet for a week. It is my first day of fasting and am already _really_ hungry and it's only late morning!!! Oh my god!!!!!! I need food!! Any tips Rowan, i'm going crazee!!! Sassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 I don't know about the Yogic diet, but I used to do a fast/raw weekend every month or so (fast on a Friday, then eat only raw food/fruit for the weekend). The first day is always the worst - I used to feel a bit nauseous (it came in short spells for me). After that, you feel revitalised and full of energy. So its definitely worth it - so keep it up! I found that distraction helped - give yourself something to do that requires some level of concentration, or just sleep! And maybe give yourself a non-food reward for seeing through the next couple of hours etc. (Get a friend to massage you or whatever else you like!). When you break the fast and eat cooked/processed foods again they make you feel really bloated (even a small amount) and seem to almost drain your new found energy away Make sure you get plenty of liquid during the fast. I've put on loads of weight since I took my current stressful/frustrating job, but you've inspired me to try a fast/raw this weekend. --- Rob vegan-network, " Sue Grayson " <suzy.grayson@n...> wrote: > I was inspired by Rowan, and am now on the yogic diet for a week. > It is my first day of fasting and am already _really_ hungry and it's > only late morning!!! Oh my god!!!!!! I need food!! > > Any tips Rowan, i'm going crazee!!! > > Sassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 > I don't know about the Yogic diet, but I used to do a fast/raw > weekend every month or so (fast on a Friday, then eat only raw > food/fruit for the weekend). > The first day is always the worst - I used to feel a bit nauseous (it came in short spells for me). After that, you feel revitalised and > full of energy. So its definitely worth it - so keep it up! Thanks for the support, it really helps. > I found that distraction helped - give yourself something to do that > requires some level of concentration, or just sleep! And maybe give > yourself a non-food reward for seeing through the next couple of > hours etc. (Get a friend to massage you or whatever else you like!). Any offers anyone?!! > Make sure you get plenty of liquid during the fast. Will do. Am i only allowed to drink water or can i have stuff like soya milk?? I really feel like buying an energy drink that i discovered on the weekend-should i?? > I've put on loads of weight since I took my current > stressful/frustrating job, but you've inspired me to try a fast/raw > this weekend. Cool!! Tell me about yourself, Rob. I apologise if you already have, knowing me it wsa me who asked!! Sassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Yeah, do it on a weekend. It's much harder when you have to work! My hunger is dictated by my brain that expects food at 7:00, 11:30 and 5:00. Hunger went away or became less when it wasn't those expected food time. You brain literally push food out of your stomach into you intestines to give that hungry feeling. If you get hungry drink water or hot water (don't knock it till you tried it), or if you will power is faltering, try green tea or herbal tea (not normal). Did you read up about it in a yoga book? Keep busy, read a book. The hardest part is to stop thinking about food. I try to think about it as a relief that I don't have to eat now. A fast is without food of any type, resist any liquid food, you'll be better for it. The bloated feeling is incredible if you go straight back to eating normally. Try to eat: Fast Day Fast Day 1st only fruit 2nd add raw veggies 3rd add cooked veggies 4th add simple whole grains 5th eat normally. It should reduce the bloated feeling. I could only eat 2 or 3 mouthfuls of normal food. If you can't manage on a week day for whatever reason, try it on a Friday and Saturday. Sue Grayson [suzy.grayson] 29 May 2001 10:52 vegan-network Fasting I was inspired by Rowan, and am now on the yogic diet for a week. It is my first day of fasting and am already _really_ hungry and it's only late morning!!! Oh my god!!!!!! I need food!! Any tips Rowan, i'm going crazee!!! Sassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Another great yogic belief is free NTL Cable, so when can you deliver! Sue Grayson [suzy.grayson] 29 May 2001 10:52 vegan-network Fasting I was inspired by Rowan, and am now on the yogic diet for a week. It is my first day of fasting and am already _really_ hungry and it's only late morning!!! Oh my god!!!!!! I need food!! Any tips Rowan, i'm going crazee!!! Sassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Starting with a whole week may not be a good idea. Try fasting one day only at first. Also a yogic diet is better suited for a yogi. There are other factors involved. Don't stress your body overtly, to do things it is not used to. As a suggestion try and think of some benefit the diet would give you, something you really beleive in. It would help a lot to maintain the diet. I've tried such stuff before, and a major benefit is in terms of self-control. Another is purging the body of toxins (rowans suggestions might help here), and giving the digestive system a rest cycle. You would be surprised by yourself if you go thru. BUT PLEASE do not get addicted to that feeling, or the benefit you 'set' for yourself. It can become a damaging habit or bounce back as an eating binge. An interesting thing would be to observe your thoughts as you do this. Try it and see. all the best, Ranjit. --- " Mccartney, Rowan (R.N.) " <rmccar14 wrote: > Yeah, do it on a weekend. It's much harder when you > have to work! My > hunger is dictated by my brain that expects food at > 7:00, 11:30 and 5:00. > Hunger went away or became less when it wasn't those > expected food time. > You brain literally push food out of your stomach > into you intestines to > give that hungry feeling. If you get hungry drink > water or hot water (don't > knock it till you tried it), or if you will power is > faltering, try green > tea or herbal tea (not normal). Did you read up > about it in a yoga book? > Keep busy, read a book. The hardest part is to stop > thinking about food. I > try to think about it as a relief that I don't have > to eat now. > A fast is without food of any type, resist any > liquid food, you'll be better > for it. The bloated feeling is incredible if you go > straight back to eating > normally. Try to eat: > Fast Day > Fast Day > 1st only fruit > 2nd add raw veggies > 3rd add cooked veggies > 4th add simple whole grains > 5th eat normally. > It should reduce the bloated feeling. I could only > eat 2 or 3 mouthfuls of > normal food. > If you can't manage on a week day for whatever > reason, try it on a Friday > and Saturday. > > > Sue Grayson [suzy.grayson] > 29 May 2001 10:52 > vegan-network > Fasting > > > I was inspired by Rowan, and am now on the yogic > diet for a week. > It is my first day of fasting and am already > _really_ hungry and it's > only late morning!!! Oh my god!!!!!! I need food!! > > Any tips Rowan, i'm going crazee!!! > > Sassy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Great advice. I found I came out in spots after/during a fast - part of the toxin expulsion? Sometimes I also felt weak on the first day, so I would not advise fasting while at work/uni. Try just a weekend, with Friday just fruit and raw food, Saturday fast and Sunday fruit/raw food. After you feel invigorated. There are some books with good advice on this. vegan-network, Ranjit Mayekar <akranjit> wrote: > Starting with a whole week may not be a good idea. > Try fasting one day only at first. Also a yogic diet > is better suited for a yogi. There are other factors > involved. Don't stress your body overtly, to do things > it is not used to. > As a suggestion try and think of some benefit the diet > would give you, something you really beleive in. It > would help a lot to maintain the diet. > I've tried such stuff before, and a major benefit is > in terms of self-control. Another is purging the body > of toxins (rowans suggestions might help here), and > giving the digestive system a rest cycle. You would be > surprised by yourself if you go thru. > BUT PLEASE do not get addicted to that feeling, or the > benefit you 'set' for yourself. It can become a > damaging habit or bounce back as an eating binge. > An interesting thing would be to observe your thoughts > as you do this. Try it and see. > all the best, > Ranjit. > --- " Mccartney, Rowan (R.N.) " <rmccar14@v...> > wrote: > > Yeah, do it on a weekend. It's much harder when you > > have to work! My > > hunger is dictated by my brain that expects food at > > 7:00, 11:30 and 5:00. > > Hunger went away or became less when it wasn't those > > expected food time. > > You brain literally push food out of your stomach > > into you intestines to > > give that hungry feeling. If you get hungry drink > > water or hot water (don't > > knock it till you tried it), or if you will power is > > faltering, try green > > tea or herbal tea (not normal). Did you read up > > about it in a yoga book? > > Keep busy, read a book. The hardest part is to stop > > thinking about food. I > > try to think about it as a relief that I don't have > > to eat now. > > A fast is without food of any type, resist any > > liquid food, you'll be better > > for it. The bloated feeling is incredible if you go > > straight back to eating > > normally. Try to eat: > > Fast Day > > Fast Day > > 1st only fruit > > 2nd add raw veggies > > 3rd add cooked veggies > > 4th add simple whole grains > > 5th eat normally. > > It should reduce the bloated feeling. I could only > > eat 2 or 3 mouthfuls of > > normal food. > > If you can't manage on a week day for whatever > > reason, try it on a Friday > > and Saturday. > > > > > > Sue Grayson [suzy.grayson@n...] > > 29 May 2001 10:52 > > vegan-network > > Fasting > > > > > > I was inspired by Rowan, and am now on the yogic > > diet for a week. > > It is my first day of fasting and am already > > _really_ hungry and it's > > only late morning!!! Oh my god!!!!!! I need food!! > > > > Any tips Rowan, i'm going crazee!!! > > > > Sassy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 > Starting with a whole week may not be a good idea. > Try fasting one day only at first. Oh my god!! LOL! I _am_ only doing it for a day!! I caouldn't even last for two days, let alone a flippin' week!! > Also a yogic diet is better suited for a yogi. There are other factors involved. Please explain more!! > I've tried such stuff before, and a major benefit is in terms of > self-control. This is defianately showing me what being 'hungry' really means!! > Another is purging the body of toxins (rowans suggestions might help here), and giving the digestive system a rest cycle. I don't think it was such a good idea having four cups of tea yesterday as coz i had a bit of a headache earlier! Doh! >You would be surprised by yourself if you go thru. I'm looking forward to the benefits (and eating food again!!) > An interesting thing would be to observe your thoughts as you do this. Try it and see. Thank you so much for all the information. I really hope you're not going to leave!! i think you'll be handy to have around!! Sas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Rob No idea why you came out in spots. Maybe something you 'ate/drank' on the fast day/before/after it that didn't suit you. Sue, Well, that's perfectly fine!! Rob's suggestion is good, I think, helps easing into and out of a fast. --- Sue Grayson <suzy.grayson wrote: > > Starting with a whole week may not be a good idea. > > Try fasting one day only at first. > > Oh my god!! LOL! I _am_ only doing it for a day!! I > caouldn't even > last for two days, let alone a flippin' week!! > I like that!! Well you had me worried, my fault, misinterpreted the mail from Rowan as a 5 day schedule you would try to follow. DONT do a flippin week > > Also a yogic diet is better suited for a yogi. > There are other > factors involved. > > Please explain more!! > It simply has to do with body metabolism. Also people who practice yoga, also practice cleansing techniques etc. Anyway in short their bodies are better 'used to' do such a thing. > > I've tried such stuff before, and a major benefit > is in terms of > > self-control. > > This is defianately showing me what being 'hungry' > really means!! > I bet it does!! For me it stopped my complains that I never 'really' felt hungry before I eat. > > Another is purging the body of toxins (rowans > suggestions might > help here), and giving the digestive system a rest > cycle. > > I don't think it was such a good idea having four > cups of tea > yesterday as coz i had a bit of a headache earlier! > Doh! > Maybe water would be better if you are used to drinking it. For me also skipping meal timings would cause a headache, that would go only after I rested (eating didn't help). > >You would be surprised by yourself if you go thru. > > I'm looking forward to the benefits (and eating food > again!!) > Uh hmm > > An interesting thing would be to observe your > thoughts as you do > this. Try it and see. > > Thank you so much for all the information. I really > hope you're not > going to leave!! i think you'll be handy to have > around!! > Thats nice to know!! I love being handy!! > Sas > Ranjit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 During detoxification, toxins in the body/blood are released through the skin (spots etc), bowels, urine, nose (maybe a cold or a nose bleed), sweat and mucus from the lungs out of the mouth. You can also have head aches and vomit. sorry if this doesn't sound too good. Graham - " Ranjit Mayekar " <akranjit <vegan-network > Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:04 PM Re: Re: Fasting > Rob > No idea why you came out in spots. Maybe something you > 'ate/drank' on the fast day/before/after it that > didn't suit you. > > Sue, > Well, that's perfectly fine!! > Rob's suggestion is good, I think, helps easing into > and out of a fast. > --- Sue Grayson <suzy.grayson wrote: > > > Starting with a whole week may not be a good idea. > > > Try fasting one day only at first. > > > > Oh my god!! LOL! I _am_ only doing it for a day!! I > > caouldn't even > > last for two days, let alone a flippin' week!! > > > I like that!! > Well you had me worried, my fault, misinterpreted the > mail from Rowan as a 5 day schedule you would try to > follow. > DONT do a flippin week > > > Also a yogic diet is better suited for a yogi. > > There are other > > factors involved. > > > > Please explain more!! > > > It simply has to do with body metabolism. Also people > who practice yoga, also practice cleansing techniques > etc. Anyway in short their bodies are better 'used to' > do such a thing. > > > I've tried such stuff before, and a major benefit > > is in terms of > > > self-control. > > > > This is defianately showing me what being 'hungry' > > really means!! > > > I bet it does!! For me it stopped my complains that I > never 'really' felt hungry before I eat. > > > > Another is purging the body of toxins (rowans > > suggestions might > > help here), and giving the digestive system a rest > > cycle. > > > > I don't think it was such a good idea having four > > cups of tea > > yesterday as coz i had a bit of a headache earlier! > > Doh! > > > Maybe water would be better if you are used to > drinking it. For me also skipping meal timings would > cause a headache, that would go only after I rested > (eating didn't help). > > > >You would be surprised by yourself if you go thru. > > > > I'm looking forward to the benefits (and eating food > > again!!) > > > Uh hmm > > > An interesting thing would be to observe your > > thoughts as you do > > this. Try it and see. > > > > Thank you so much for all the information. I really > > hope you're not > > going to leave!! i think you'll be handy to have > > around!! > > > Thats nice to know!! I love being handy!! > > Sas > > > Ranjit. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 > During detoxification, toxins in the body/blood are released through the skin (spots etc), bowels, urine, nose (maybe a cold or a nose bleed), sweat and mucus from the lungs out of the mouth. You can also have head aches and vomit. I already have a cold, so don't know 'bout that one!! But two styes have appeared, a had a mild headache and was really sweaty too but probably coz it was so hot!! Sassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 but weekends be my busiest time.......i'm more active on weekends.. if i was gonna get woozy, it might as well be while i'm at my place of servitude...then maybe i'll at least get sympathy and get a chance to sit my tuchus down.... i've had to fast in the past(medical reasons)..and i don't remember it being a whole ton of fun...never felt that " cleansed " ...just irritable and hungry....and grumpy fraggles just aren't my fun at all.... " spacevegan " <rob wrote: >Great advice. > >I found I came out in spots after/during a fast - part of the toxin >expulsion? Sometimes I also felt weak on the first day, so I would >not advise fasting while at work/uni. Try just a weekend, with Friday >just fruit and raw food, Saturday fast and Sunday fruit/raw food. >After you feel invigorated. There are some books with good advice on >this. > > >vegan-network, Ranjit Mayekar <akranjit> wrote: >> Starting with a whole week may not be a good idea. >> Try fasting one day only at first. Also a yogic diet >> is better suited for a yogi. There are other factors >> involved. Don't stress your body overtly, to do things >> it is not used to. >> As a suggestion try and think of some benefit the diet >> would give you, something you really beleive in. It >> would help a lot to maintain the diet. >> I've tried such stuff before, and a major benefit is >> in terms of self-control. Another is purging the body >> of toxins (rowans suggestions might help here), and >> giving the digestive system a rest cycle. You would be >> surprised by yourself if you go thru. >> BUT PLEASE do not get addicted to that feeling, or the >> benefit you 'set' for yourself. It can become a >> damaging habit or bounce back as an eating binge. >> An interesting thing would be to observe your thoughts >> as you do this. Try it and see. >> all the best, >> Ranjit. >> --- " Mccartney, Rowan (R.N.) " <rmccar14@v...> >> wrote: >> > Yeah, do it on a weekend. It's much harder when you >> > have to work! My >> > hunger is dictated by my brain that expects food at >> > 7:00, 11:30 and 5:00. >> > Hunger went away or became less when it wasn't those >> > expected food time. >> > You brain literally push food out of your stomach >> > into you intestines to >> > give that hungry feeling. If you get hungry drink >> > water or hot water (don't >> > knock it till you tried it), or if you will power is >> > faltering, try green >> > tea or herbal tea (not normal). Did you read up >> > about it in a yoga book? >> > Keep busy, read a book. The hardest part is to stop >> > thinking about food. I >> > try to think about it as a relief that I don't have >> > to eat now. >> > A fast is without food of any type, resist any >> > liquid food, you'll be better >> > for it. The bloated feeling is incredible if you go >> > straight back to eating >> > normally. Try to eat: >> > Fast Day >> > Fast Day >> > 1st only fruit >> > 2nd add raw veggies >> > 3rd add cooked veggies >> > 4th add simple whole grains >> > 5th eat normally. >> > It should reduce the bloated feeling. I could only >> > eat 2 or 3 mouthfuls of >> > normal food. >> > If you can't manage on a week day for whatever >> > reason, try it on a Friday >> > and Saturday. >> > >> > >> > Sue Grayson [suzy.grayson@n...] >> > 29 May 2001 10:52 >> > vegan-network >> > Fasting >> > >> > >> > I was inspired by Rowan, and am now on the yogic >> > diet for a week. >> > It is my first day of fasting and am already >> > _really_ hungry and it's >> > only late morning!!! Oh my god!!!!!! I need food!! >> > >> > Any tips Rowan, i'm going crazee!!! >> > >> > Sassy >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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