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I always introduce veganism as the most radically effective form of

political action.

 

It sure shuts people up who are expecting a " but carrots have feelings

too type of argument " , especially the lefties who are left staring in a

mirror of their own hypocrasies while financially supporting all the big

right wing owned, environmentally destructive corporate activies.

 

follow in with a swift upper cut to the impact of international energy

policies, butt in the head with moncropping, animal feed, water rights

and the rights indigenous people. then lay them on the ground with a

thesis on species loss and the aggregation of pesticides.

 

the generally idea is to leave them so traumatised that they never make

fun of another vegan in the lifes.

 

you can even take their jeans off them in a pincer move for organic

farming being against the pesticidal production product of cotton by nigh

slaves in Africa [ 60p a day and the wives and kids work for free ].

 

want to argue?

 

[ someone said that Mr BiG was back on list ].

 

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Hello john,

 

Tuesday, May 29, 2001, 10:41:36 PM, you wrote:

 

ja> I always introduce veganism as the most radically effective form of

ja> political action.

 

ja> It sure shuts people up who are expecting a " but carrots have feelings

ja> too type of argument "

 

What do you mean? What is a right answer to this argument?

 

ja> follow in with a swift upper cut to the impact of international energy

ja> policies, butt in the head with moncropping,

 

What is " moncropping " ? (Sorry haven't found this word in dictionary)

 

ja> animal feed, water rights

 

What is " water rights " ?

 

 

ja> and the rights indigenous people. then lay them on the ground with a

ja> thesis on species loss and the aggregation of pesticides.

 

What thesis is it?

 

ja> the generally idea is to leave them so traumatised that they never make

ja> fun of another vegan in the lifes.

 

:) You better explain more detailed.

 

ja> you can even take their jeans off them in a pincer move for organic

ja> farming being against the pesticidal production product of cotton by nigh

ja> slaves in Africa [ 60p a day and the wives and kids work for free ].

ja> want to argue?

 

But where from you got this info?

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>It sure shuts people up who are expecting a " but carrots have feelings

>too type of argument " , especially the lefties who are left staring in a

>mirror of their own hypocrasies while financially supporting all the big

>right wing owned, environmentally destructive corporate activies.

>

>follow in with a swift upper cut to the impact of international energy

>policies, butt in the head with moncropping, animal feed, water rights

>and the rights indigenous people. then lay them on the ground with a

>thesis on species loss and the aggregation of pesticides.

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>the generally idea is to leave them so traumatised that they never make

>fun of another vegan in the lifes.

 

Hmm, interesting. I have a non-vegan 'friend' who thought it would be

amusing to come onto this site and take the mickey out of all the vegans.

I'm almost tempted to let him, just to see his reaction when he loses the

argument.

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>>want to argue?

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>[ someone said that Mr BiG was back on list ].

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>john

 

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I like to take a single issue (like milk).

After they have been bored with that monologue for 5 min and if they believe you

that cows are just like a human woman and only produce milk after giving birth -

they don't want to hear anymore.

It suffice for them to give up dairy and by implication meat...if they are

bright enough to 'gettit' that is!

 

I wonder if John argument is too high brow for today's student population.

 

BTW there are some great posters up around our uni called the 'pleasure pain'

theory which have a person scoffing chicken leg and then behind them several

pictures of slaughter houses etc. They are by a student here.

I'll get 'em on the list!!!

If any students was to order copies then I'll find out more!

 

 

Andy

 

>I always introduce veganism as the most radically effective form of

>politicalaction.

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Andrew Barnes

07970 075905

 

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Yeah lets " attack " the animal eater .Better than giving other vegans a hard

time . We might even get a convert Angie

 

 

 

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" Dee Matheson " <dmatheson72

TWednesday, May 30, 2001 1:32 PM

Re: re: socio-ethical vegans

 

 

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