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In a message dated 5/30/01 3:54:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

vegan-network writes:

 

<< He's looking at people who are restricting their diet in strange ways

I eat what I like when I like with lots of variety

Here's to the next35 years. Angie

 

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I agree with you, the diet that he was mentioning was really far out there!

I eat what I want as long as it doesnt contain animals! I eat vegan goodies

and saute just about everything in Olive Oil! I can say I still can afford

to loose about 10 more lbs from having my last baby! So there! LOL Besides,

since I gave up aimals,I havent looked better! My complexion looks terrific

and the dark circles I had all my life are GONE.

 

 

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I can never resist Whole Earth's Organic Cola - its got a much more

natural taste than coke, but still gives you a lift.

 

 

vegan-network, " Lesley Dove " <100706.3632@c...> wrote:

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> It's the same for me with fizzy pop (coca cola especially) and

> crisps! I crave them although they aren't good, and I really have

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> Lesley

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I have the occasional craving for " nookie " {but no man] Does this mean I

should drag some unsuspecting male of the street and have my wicked way with

him ,despite his protests???

 

 

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" Dee Matheson " <dmatheson72

<vegan-network >

Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:08 PM

Re: Negative vegan article

 

 

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> >Animal Foods

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> >I now think it's important for most people, especially individuals

> >like me who zealously followed strict vegan diets for several years,

> >to eat some " clean " and minimally processed animal foods as their body

> >needs point out to them.

> >

> >I currently eat health food store butter and free-range eggs as well

> >as salmon and tuna. I don't drink milk, though I will occasionally

> >have some organic, raw milk cheese or yogurt made from cows that are

> >pasture fed and not injected with antibiotics and hormones. I try to

> >avoid all supermarket dairy products. My wife, who doesn't tolerate

> >fish, prefers some health food store beef. I eat these animal foods

> >when my body tells me I need them. I'll go for weeks without an

> >egg, and suddenly I'll know by a strong craving that I need some

> >eggs, so I'll eat them until that feeling goes away. Ditto for fish.

> > Ditto for cheese.

>

> I'd also like to point out to this person that I get a strong craving for

> cigarrettes. Doesn't mean my body needs them and that they are good for

me!

> Dee

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Lesley wrote..

 

>especially) and

>crisps! I crave them although they aren't good, and I really have to

>make an effort to cut back. I'm doing a little better these days.

>I do honestly find that I feel worse after eating junk than after

>healthy food though. Knowing that I feel tired after eating bad foods

>is really helping me in cutting back actually.

>Even if your body doesn't tell you before you take in something bad,

>it should tell you afterwards if it's working right, so that should

>make you not want to do it again. I'm just surprised that smokers

>don't always get awful after-effects, I get so very ill after

>breathing any second-hand smoke at all, so I actively avoid it.

>

>A craving for nicotine is a very strong one and a hard habit to break. As

>for after effects I was getting a bit short of breath when exercising, but

>glad to say I've given up now. I suppose with u being asthmatic it would

>affect u more than others at breathing in second hand smoke. As for

>cravings for meat and dairy I suppose that only happens to people who

>weren't brought up veggie. Don't know about anyone else, but despite being

>brought up with meat and 2 veg at every meal, I never crave meat or dairy

>at all now. I do eat 'meat substitutes' cos I like the taste of them, but I

>could probably quite easily live without them.

Dee

 

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vegan-network, " Dee Matheson " <dmatheson72@h...> wrote:

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> >A craving for nicotine is a very strong one and a hard habit to

break. As

 

All I know is that my dad and my gran gave up at least 20 years ago

(my gran lived to 93, after quitting quite late in life), they had no

help from patches or anything other than willpower, I was quite young

but I remember that they both said it was not all that difficult, the

same for my husband who gave up just before we were together, he said

he didn't find it too hard, and used nothing other than willpower, so

I think that with any addiction it is 99% in the mind. Everyone tells

people that smoking is hard to quit (this is the sort of myth that

the tobacco companies love to use to control their slaves!),

therefore people find it harder to give up because they have been

programmed to believe it is hard! Most people I know who have quit

have reported that they have not found it as hard as they were told

it was.

It's like going vegan, lots of people are put off by the belief that

it is hard, but it's not as hard as they think.

 

> >for after effects I was getting a bit short of breath when

exercising, but

> >glad to say I've given up now. I suppose with u being asthmatic it

would

> >affect u more than others at breathing in second hand smoke. As

for

 

I'm determined to get something for my chest problems (herbal teas

maybe), but not sure if I am keen to get diagnosed as asthmatic in

case there is a lot of pressure to have ventolin, which in the long-

term can make things worse. I'm fine most of the time if I avoid the

things that affect my throat and chest.

Glad to hear you are not smoking now. That's great, just keep

believing in yourself! You are in control, not the evil weed and the

evil companies that peddle it!

 

> >cravings for meat and dairy I suppose that only happens to people

who

> >weren't brought up veggie. Don't know about anyone else, but

despite being

> >brought up with meat and 2 veg at every meal, I never crave meat

or dairy

> >at all now. I do eat 'meat substitutes' cos I like the taste of

them, but I

> >could probably quite easily live without them.

> Dee

>

 

I like the soya milk and some of the cheese subs, but some of the

meat-subs are a little too like meat for my tastes now, although I

still like vegan bacon substitute rashers, and cheatin'ham slices,

I'm not so keen on sausages and burgers that are meat-like.

I've never craved actual real animal products, even in pregnancy.

 

Lesley

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