Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 > I've heard both Tempeh is an excellent source, and it's not. > I don't know what is true. The low down with Tempeh is thought to lie in its production. Traditionally it was made on straw beds and it is thought that this provided a rich mix of bacteria that promoted the production of the B12 content. This is where the initial opinion rose. With " Health and Safety " regulations and the industrialisation of production, " clean rooms " were used and it was said that this stopped or lowered the B12 production. I do not know what the current state of play is, probably a macrobiotic site or producer would be able to give you the answer. Either way it is still a better way to use soya as a source of protein as the microbes pre-digest much of the bean and make it esier to absord nutrients from it. This is where the weakness of all those " soya is bad " myths are exposed. Have they studied how soya is actually used by theindigienous peoples that actually brought it to our attention, e.g. Japanese, South East Asians. They would not more eat cooked soya beans as sold in the West than their own babies [ to follow another thread ]. What we are sold here is literally cattle feed and I am not surprised that people have problems with it. But do the scientists go ask the people that actually know? Do they even know about stuff like Tempeh and Natto? Probably not, a issue with the endemic narrowmindedness, limited approach and arrogance of Western Science. If people do not know if, I also recommend " Natto " another " fermented " Asian soy product available pretty much only from Japanese shops but delicious on a bed of hot buckwheat noodles or ramen. No idea of its nutritional values but it will beat " raw " or denatured soy products apart. Funnily enough, you cannot grow natto and Tempeh in the safe kitchen or even flat due to cross " pollination " if that is the right term. The way the Japanese will eat soy beans is fresh beans out of a pod lightly stir friend or boil and sprinkled with salt. Otherwise, still pretty much live, young and fresh. They serve them at bars to go with your beer even which beat pork crackling. This issue of food such as Tempeh and Natto and " yeast free " diets are another anomaly that I believe is not properly resolved, When this dietary fad was invented, I am 100% sure that the founders had not thought nor considered such food, nor healthy " pro-biotic " microbes. Again, it was a simplistic; " this is good, that is bad " , " yin/yang " mentality that we have to grow out of. Life is so much more rich and ambigous. Recommend a study of % element theory. So many of these dietary concepts are *so* simplistic and incomplete, from yeast free to Gerson [ Only God knows what the Halleluia Diet is, I had never heard of prior to Chet's article ]. They excellents on a few poeple and not at all to bad on others and the founders dont, cant work out why. The practioners never ask as to do so would threaten their livelihood at pushing solutions that fail 50% of the time. There is aneed for greater pratical ethics as ever. OK, lecture over for today. I still have to answer Sergio's request. My 2c John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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