[100% veg*n ] Not Sainsbury's!

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<but its better to organise yourself so you

<don't need this type of convenience and all the

<(hidden) problems it

<causes.

 

In an ideal world...

 

I don't consider myself to be one of those " wimpy "

vegans, but when it comes down to it, there *is* quite

a big price difference, Sainsbury's being cheaper, and

for the unwaged, this can make all the difference.

 

Also, we can look on the bright side and hope that

meat-eaters and vegetarians will buy some of the yummy

vegan stuff that the supermarkets start selling and

realise what a great way of eating and living we

actually have, n'est-ce pas?

 

Hilary

 

 

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>There are a lot of " wimpy " (bad word, but who cares!) vegetarians

>(and possibly vegans) who see it just as a diet thing. That is an

>important part, but I think of my veganism as a political statement

>and part of that is ethical/enviromental justice.

 

If there is one thing I dislike it is the idea that veganism is simply

about diet. But if there is another thing I dislike it is people tieing in

other beliefs. Being against the use of animals and cruelty is an ethical

belief while being against supermarkets, capitalism etc. are political and

the two can exist independently although admittedly they do often occur

together. This is not to dismiss veganism as being political, this is

necessary as political institutions govern ethics in our society. Nor is

this a dismissal of someone giving their own meaning to their being a

vegan, only that it is unfair to have the same expectations of others.

 

I spend two and a half hours on a train to be able to go to a proper health

food store, and this includes buying things that I can get in Tesco. But

when I can buy organic baked beans or Soya Milk for half the price at a

supermarket then this does make a big financial difference. Aside from

this there are certain, more exotic items, which I can buy in a supermarket

that I cannot get elsewhere.

 

>Whereas your (local? if you're

>lucky!) independent health food/organic store stocks them because

>they believe they are the correct things to sell.

 

I have never seen a solely vegan health food store, all of them stock

products containing dairy and eggs, and I've seen many that include meats

(albeit organic ones).

 

Anyway you've given me an idea for my (not vegan/ethics/politics)

dissertation so thank you.

 

Michael

 

P.S. And if there is another thing I dislike it is email software which

crashes when you have nearly finished writing and when auto save hasn't

kicked in. You should have the seen the first version, it would have won

an Nobel prize.