Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Yes, I've heard this before, I even got a carefully crafted letter from them saying how great they are and all their intentions. They basically said (from memory) it's near impossible to trace all the ingredients that go into their products, but they did definitely confirm the a few of the ingredients that they list in their products were from non-animal sources (I think Glycerine was one, but don't hold me to it!), I'll try and find the letter for you guys and list 'em. ---------------- BTW, I went into the body shop the other day and asked what was vegan. The girl looked at me like I was mad, but phoned head office anyway. NOTHING that they do is!! Can you believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 I'm old enough to remember when the Body Shop first opened, or at least first started expanding branches. At the time it really was something quite different. I think they have done a lot to highlight the disgrace of using animals in cosmetic testing and more recently using ethically traded ingredients, and highlighting female image issues. In the early days every single shop used to have a big book which listed every ingredient and where it came from, and also marked whether each product was vegan. BUT (and I'm back onto the anti-supermarket argument again!), when you actually look deeper into them, they're not so great. They use a 5 year rolling rule rather than a fixed cut off date for their animal tested ingredients. Which means that if there's some new chemcial being tested on an animal right now, they would think it is OK to use it 5 in years time. Better companies use a fixed date, usually from way before they were formed. Check out Conscience Cosmetics. They've also removed their " bible " of ingredients/products. They obviously need the space to sell more stuff. Also, the amount of ethically traded ingredients used by the Body Shop is actually only a small percentage of what they use (although they obviously shout about it more!). So its back to the old argument - its a better fallback shop to use when you can't get an ethically better alternative (just like buying soya from Sainsburys!). I also think they are overpriced though. rob vegan-network, " Mccartney, Rowan (R.N.) " <rmccar14@v...> wrote: > Yes, I've heard this before, I even got a carefully crafted letter from them > saying how great they are and all their intentions. They basically said > (from memory) it's near impossible to trace all the ingredients that go into > their products, but they did definitely confirm the a few of the ingredients > that they list in their products were from non-animal sources (I think > Glycerine was one, but don't hold me to it!), I'll try and find the letter > for you guys and list 'em. > > ---------------- > BTW, I went into the body shop the other day and asked what was > vegan. The girl looked at me like I was mad, but phoned head office > anyway. NOTHING that they do is!! Can you believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Yep. Also, when they say not tested on animals that is taking a few liberbies with the truth. If their ingredients were not testen on animals then they wouldn't be allowed to be sold in this country (1974 act on somthing or other). So their actual mixes of the products might not be, but everything that makes them up is!! Being a vegan is proving to be a bit more difficult then I first imagined. If not the body shop (which I thought was pretty good) then where CAN I get these things from? In my limited experiance I've never noticed vegans being particuarly smelly people so there must be somewhere! --------------- Yes, I've heard this before, I even got a carefully crafted letter from them saying how great they are and all their intentions. They basically said (from memory) it's near impossible to trace all the ingredients that go into their products, but they did definitely confirm the a few of the ingredients that they list in their products were from non-animal sources (I think Glycerine was one, but don't hold me to it!), I'll try and find the letter for you guys and list 'em. > > ---------------- > BTW, I went into the body shop the other day and asked what was > vegan. The girl looked at me like I was mad, but phoned head office > anyway. NOTHING that they do is!! Can you believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 vegan-network, " James Higson " <jim_higson> wrote: > Yep. Also, when they say not tested on animals that is taking a few > liberbies with the truth. If their ingredients were not testen on > animals then they wouldn't be allowed to be sold in this country > (1974 act on somthing or other). So their actual mixes of the > products might not be, but everything that makes them up is!! That's why vegan cosmetic/toiletries companies use a cut fixed cut off date, maybe from before 1974(? sorry I'm not an expert). By the way I think the law changed very recently on this. You can find more info from the BUAV (www.buav.org), NAVS (navs.org.uk), PETA (petaeurope.org) etc, including where to get fixed-cutoff products. I don't use makeup but some of the toiletries I've got around the place at the mo are: Conscience, Utekram (made in Denmark using wind/biomass power!), Faith in Nature, Meadowsweet, Honesty. Also household products from EcoLino, Ecover, Bio-D, Caurnie Soap Co, Acdo, Homecare, Clear Spring. Check out the Vegan Society web site for more info (www.vegansociety.com/). I haven'tactually checked which of these use fixed cut-off - maybe I'll check them out, somewhere like The Ethical Consumer (www.ethicalconsumer.org). > > Being a vegan is proving to be a bit more difficult then I first > imagined. If not the body shop (which I thought was pretty good) then > where CAN I get these things from? In my limited experiance I've > never noticed vegans being particuarly smelly people so there must be > somewhere! > > > > --------------- > Yes, I've heard this before, I even got a carefully crafted letter > from them > saying how great they are and all their intentions. They basically > said > (from memory) it's near impossible to trace all the ingredients that > go into > their products, but they did definitely confirm the a few of the > ingredients > that they list in their products were from non-animal sources (I think > Glycerine was one, but don't hold me to it!), I'll try and find the > letter > for you guys and list 'em. > > > > ---------------- > > BTW, I went into the body shop the other day and asked what was > > vegan. The girl looked at me like I was mad, but phoned head office > > anyway. NOTHING that they do is!! Can you believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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