Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 vegan-network, " Peter Kebbell " <Snowbow@b...> wrote: > > Perhaps the mice in Lesley's house don't have good taste? > > BB > Peter We live in a first floor flat and don't have any mice, but lots of spiders and insects settle here quite happily. Lesley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Hi Fraggle > back street mice??? > : ) Or........The Mice Girls (sorry!) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Hi Lesley > OK rant to follow, you asked for it Fraggle! Perhaps I misunderstood - I always thought punk was intended just to shock - I never really thought any of the " politics " was sincere. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 >Perhaps I misunderstood - I always thought punk was intended just to shock - >I never really thought any of the " politics " was sincere. It was born out of a rebellion against social conditions and as such it was driven by politics. It is because of the ignorance towards their situation that they felt the need to shock as it was the only way they could be heard. I wish I could remember my youth cultures course as punk was one of them covered. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 *sputter* wot??!!! *mohawk stands on end* (ok, i don't have a mohawk anymore, just a purply tail, but ya get the picture) now, lesley is entitled to her own opinion, but peter, dear peter, ya just made one hades of a blanket statement there.... maybe in 1977 in england punk was just a *shock*...but to call it insincere??...i don't even know where to begin....everything from the clash to Crass to the Dead Kennedys, i mean..man...politics has been an intergral part of the punk movement for decades.....rock against reagan, punx against war, etc *blinks* ya kinda threw me there..... fraggle " Peter Kebbell " <Snowbow wrote: >Hi Lesley > >> OK rant to follow, you asked for it Fraggle! > >Perhaps I misunderstood - I always thought punk was intended just to shock - >I never really thought any of the " politics " was sincere. > >BB >Peter > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Hi Fraggle > now, lesley is entitled to her own opinion, but peter, dear peter, ya just made one hades of a blanket statement there.... > maybe in 1977 in england punk was just a *shock*...but to call it insincere?? Depends whether you mean English punk or American punk - I always think of Punk as being Sex Pistols etc. > ...i don't even know where to begin....everything from the clash to Crass to the Dead Kennedys, i mean..man...politics has been > an intergral part of the punk movement for decades.....rock against reagan, punx against war, etc Yeah, but remember the sort of music I like - for instance, my favourite groups include: Magnum - songs such as Don't Wake The Lion, Need A Lot of Love Metallica - songs such as ...And Justice For All, Disposable Heroes, Shortest Straw, Welcome Home Savatage - albums such as Dead Winter Dead, Wake of Magellan Megadeth - songs such as Foreclosure of A Dream, Rust In Peace I could go on - these are the sort of groups that seem to have sincerity in the politics in their songs. The point I'm making about punk is that it is done for protest - but the importance of it is the protest, not what is being protested against! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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