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Considering what has happened to Lesley it looks more like people are

getting ten minutes in the sin bin Rugby style. (League of course.)

 

Michael

 

At 02:53 AM 7/3/01 -0400, Mccartney, Rowan (R.N.) you wrote:

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>John, oh John, look she openly said she'd have a joint! BTW Yellow Cards

>are silly, I think a Technical Foul should be handed out in BBall Style.

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Hi Michael

 

> Considering what has happened to Lesley it looks more like people are

> getting ten minutes in the sin bin Rugby style. (League of course.)

 

Seems more like a black flag - motor racing style!

 

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> Considering what has happened to Lesley it looks more like people are

> getting ten minutes in the sin bin Rugby style. (League of course.)

 

What did Lesley say that was wrong?

 

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>What did Lesley say that was wrong?

 

I think that is a mystery too all, bar one, of us. If I read John's email

correctly though, after commenting on Lesley he said that he does not want

to see us disagree with other vegans so I can only assume her crime was to

have a difference of opinion.

 

Michael

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I can't see what was wrong either One out all out is my motto ,so I'm

signing off till Lesley comes back Bye Angie

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Mavreela

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Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:41 PM

Re: [100% veg*n ] Endorsing drugs!

 

 

 

>What did Lesley say that was wrong?

 

I think that is a mystery too all, bar one, of us. If I read John's email

correctly though, after commenting on Lesley he said that he does not want

to see us disagree with other vegans so I can only assume her crime was to

have a difference of opinion.

 

Michael

 

 

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> I think that is a mystery too all, bar one, of us. If I read John's email

> correctly though, after commenting on Lesley he said that he does not want

> to see us disagree with other vegans so I can only assume her crime was to

> have a difference of opinion.

 

Yes - the thing is, that several of us had the same difference of opinion.

I don't think it was my fault that the London Vegans were not friendly to

me - in fact, it is a most unusual occurrence. Also if people with children

were also treated in an unfriendly matter, it does not seem to me to be a

crime to comment on it. There was no foul language, and Lesley certainly

did not call anyone rude names.

 

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>There was no foul language, and Lesley certainly did not call anyone rude

>names.

 

Considering how much everyone seems to be in agreement why don't we all

have a collection so that when Lesley dies (hopefully a long way off) we

can build her a fountain.

 

Michael

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Michael

 

> Considering how much everyone seems to be in agreement why don't we all

> have a collection so that when Lesley dies (hopefully a long way off) we

> can build her a fountain.

 

Not sure of you're meaning here??

 

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vegan-network, Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> wrote:

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> >There was no foul language, and Lesley certainly did not call

anyone rude

> >names.

 

I guess it all depends on what you classify as foul language or rude

names. If someone called me a " child-hating vegan " or a " rabid and

vociferous child-hater " without actually bothering to check if this

might be an accurate description of my views I think I would be quite

upset/angry. Lesley's original post stated that a friend of hers

with a toddler had said she had had to deal with some " intolerant

attitudes " at a London Vegans. These attitudes and the expression of

them at the meeting were left to our imagination and yet no one asked

for more detail. Instead it was assumed that the description

of " child-hating vegans " was mostly accurate. Lesley was not even at

the meeting.

 

I should say that I know Robin and Allison. I do not know what their

views are on children, nor would I wish to comment on them if I did,

if only because they are not list members. I wonder how the

discussion would have gone if they had been.

 

As for John's reasons for showing Lesley a second yellow card, I

suggest you read his " Lesley's Angry Inner Child " post again. In it

he spoke of " unsubstantiated ideas " and " tabloid propaganda " -style

language. Whether anyone agrees with his choice of action or not,

these are his stated reasons and he is the list moderator.

 

It is easy to forget that the words we use are not the things

themselves.

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