Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 Hello everyone, I'm looking for help with an arguement about the gm cats which don't spark off allergies. The person i was disscusing this with is a quaker, what does this religion state about animals as food and in other respect. What about messing with 'nature' and gentics? Sorry i'm quite ignorant of religion and would like to know more anne _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 I think the original concept wasnt really about quarkers- it was more an excersice to show that any type of faith relies on dogma- including quaker faith- believe in god without scientific evidence- thats dogma- believe in anything without scientific evidence- is dogma. You can practice a philosophy, of course, without being dogmatic.. for example the difference being... ... id like to believe god exist, and if he does, i think that these guys (quakers, muslims, jew etc) have got it right on and i think the lifestyle they lead is a pretty good one that god would like. or- god exists, theres no doubt about it, thats the way it is and there's no argument and this is the right path to live the way god wants. (of course those are 2 varying extremes) point being, the original post was a question as to finding a church that does not rely on dogma, or consequently, faith. and if there is one, is it still a church? interesting questions. www.churchofbodmod.com ===== Where is this beauty? I search and search and then find, We are the lotus. Om Mani Padme Hum Send Flowers for Valentine's Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 - Mr.Graves > I think the original concept wasnt really about > quarkers- it was more an excersice to show that any > type of faith relies on dogma- including quaker faith- > believe in god without scientific evidence- thats > dogma- believe in anything without scientific > evidence- is dogma. Actually, the challenge was to name a church which encourages its members to think for itself. Quakerism fills that nicely. Lee-Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 I don't think you're getting it, or maybe you just don't want to. Don't take it out on me though, I'm just trying to explain why the wires aren't connecting. One person's concept of church is totally different than anothers. For example: www.churchofbodmod.com Is a legally registered church. They don't do it for me though. Ive never seen a Quaker 'church', but then Ive never gone looking for one, to be fair. Might be interesting to check out though. I hear the Quakers are fairly nice folks. K --- Lady Sappho <ladysappho wrote: > - > Mr.Graves > > > I think the original concept wasnt really about > > quarkers- it was more an excersice to show that > any > > type of faith relies on dogma- including quaker > faith- > > believe in god without scientific evidence- thats > > dogma- believe in anything without scientific > > evidence- is dogma. > > Actually, the challenge was to name a church which > encourages its members to > think for itself. Quakerism fills that nicely. > > Lee-Gwen > > ===== Where is this beauty? I search and search and then find, We are the lotus. Om Mani Padme Hum Send Flowers for Valentine's Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 - Mr.Graves > I don't think you're getting it, or maybe you just > don't want to. Don't take it out on me though, I do feel as though I am missing a huge part of this conversation, but it certainly isn't intentional and I don't feel that I am taking anything out on anyone. > connecting. One person's concept of church is totally > different than anothers. Well, that is true enough. > Is a legally registered church. They don't do it for > me though. Ive never seen a Quaker 'church', but then > Ive never gone looking for one, to be fair. Accurately, it isn't a church (unless one is talking about Orthodox Quakers, I believe), but I did feel that it answered the original question. Anyway, I do feel that this subject is probably pretty much exhausted now. It appears to rest on perception, but that makes sense. Might be > interesting to check out though. I hear the Quakers > are fairly nice folks. Well, I have generally found them to be so, but they are human so there are bound to be some not-so-nice ones too - at least, as perceived by some, if you follow. Lee-Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Actually, Lee-Gwen got it just fine. This all started b/c of one of my quotes that is tagged to the end of my posts. This one to be exact: It is a very rare church indeed that encourages its members to think for themselves in religious matters, or even tolerates this, and in most of them the clergy are quite ready to lay down the law in other fields too. ~ Anne Roe Then Gene asked the group, or me if we could name one. Lee-Gwen named one. I think Unitarian Universalists are another such church from what I have seen/heard. ~ PT ~ One must learn by doing the thing; for though you think you know it, you have no certainty until you try. ~ Sophocles ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Mr.Graves " <sleepingtao> wrote: > > I don't think you're getting it, or maybe you just > don't want to. Don't take it out on me though, I'm > just trying to explain why the wires aren't > connecting. One person's concept of church is totally > different than anothers. > K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 - PT > Then Gene asked the group, or me if we could name one. > Lee-Gwen named one. > I think Unitarian Universalists are another such church from > what I have seen/heard. Actually, just for the sake of accuracy, it was Pixx who first mentioned Quakers. I thought it, but didn't post it. Lee-Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 I agree with you, PT......UU would definitely be another one. Pixx On 18 Feb 2003 at 0:29, ~ P_T ~ patchouli_troll@ wrote: > I think Unitarian Universalists are another such church from > what I have seen/heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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