Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Thanks for some nobly intelligent input on this list Graham. it makes up for mine. Good God ... someone that still actually reads books in this day and age of recycle brain farts that make up most internet discussion ! someting should be done about it ... you'll be in danger of making up a mind of your own soon. i share your sentiments about the sustainability of small communities and have come to question much that i do on that basis. in answer to the other vegan-listas [ rhymes with Sandinistas ] that commented on my " confusion " or " animals first and screw the environment " attitudes. life is a whole lot more complex and the longer you have at it, the more aware you are of its complexities. such it is being a vegan too. when you start off you are sort of supercharged with desire to be pure and a tendancy to fundimentalism or envangelism up a steep learning curve. then once you enter the long haul over the high plains your perpective changes. you dont lose anything, your thoughts and awareness broadens to have to take in the many things you learn on your journey. i think that you have a choice to become more softer and more encompassing or rigid and more hard headed. i guess we have all seen example of both. often i ask myself, what if this big false so called civilisation we live under went pop. how would i get through? it would not be easy the more i was tied into cycles of consumption and artificiality, had become artificially sensitive to certain issue, held fast to impossible standards. I have thought of veganism to be in essence a highly metropolitised activity. a path that sells itself as being ultra natural and yet belongs or flourishes best only in the highly unnatural urban environments of big cities. forget the Tundra, i'd die if i had to go and live in the Midlands or Sunderland. the only place i find that i am catered for or feel comfortable are the big cities. for the record, i did years of wearing sandals and tai chi slippers even in the winter *AND* on motorcycles [ fraggle winches, only those that have kissed tarmac would understand why ... ]. i even had a pair of sandals where the outside edges had worn away because i was going round the corners so fast and low. then i thought, " this is nuts. what if i fall off? " i had a pair of old boots back at home anyway. you see, motorcycles are 100s of times more environmentally friendly than cars *if* you have to burn hydrocarbons. again, it is one of those pay off. the balance between wrapping yourself in a tonne of steel or just wearing an old leather jacket, which is worse? unfortunately i discovered Birkenstocks before vegan shoes were available and now my feet wont even fit into Doc Marten copies because the big toe is not straight enough on them. i have feet shaped feet instead of shoe shaped ones. it always amazes me that with 12 billion feet on the planet, commercial shoe manufacturers still cant make shoes that are feet shaped rather than making feet shoe shaped. and it depressed me when the so called alternative followed en suite with their vegan bootie. in the end, i have to confess that i went and bought a pair of leather shoes but made the effort to find hand made, re-buildable, vegetable died and natural ones because the Birkenstocks let in water and could not be secured. the only vegan Birkenstocks are made from fabric. i make a limit of keep one pair on the go at a time until they die which usually takes about 4 years. interestingly enough, did you know that there are vegetarian Hells Angels in California? and that's a non sequitor if every there was one. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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