Environmental concern/veganism [100% veg*n ] Digest Number 390

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Hi Fraggle-

 

sorry I responded to Dee before seeing your post- the problem with

Digest mode is that I get everything in big batches. Trouble is being

d to about 9 email lsists my inbox wouldn't be able to cope

otherwise...

 

However hopefully my reply to Dee addresses most of the issues you

raise...

 

 

> i have one question fer ya...you mentioned some book by ben law

(sorry, never heards of the fella...)

 

Check out his book The Woodland Way- A Permaculture Approach To

Woodland Managemnt, just published by Permanent Publications

(www.permaculture.co.uk)- well worth reading even if you don't agree

with the culling bits.

 

....were you labeled rabbits and squirrels " pests " ...please

explain....

> what is a pest...??

 

rabbits, squirrels, deer, etc arn't pests IN THEMSELVES, in this

context I've described them as such when their populations reach

unsustainable levels and they are seriously competing with human

interests, and causing major damage to the woodland ecology largely

becuase their are no brakes to their population levels.

 

To put a slightly different perspective on things, would you have

major problems eating a carrot or lettuce if you knew that the

producer had taken steps to control local slug populations (ie,

killing them) in order to protect those crops? If you grew your own

veg would you have problems with killing slugs yourself that

threatened your crops? having kept allotments and gardens since 1984,

I can tell you that even as a vegan I have no such scruples!

 

 

> and, if ya want to use " overpopulation " as an argument, well, i

might as well go next door and wack off my neighbors..there are a ton

of poor folks living in a little house next door to me....long pig

anyone?

> (i hope to bacchus you can see the tongue in my cheek)

 

absolutely!! Jane- am I person who remotely takes anything or anybody

seriously???? (PS what about the Cardboard Box Protection League?

have you reported me yet for my despicable conduct at the Vegan

Festival??)

 

Cheers,

 

Graham

[Guest guest]

duuhh..that is what neighbors yards are for....they become snail refuggess for

all the unwanted molluscs from yer yard....

well, ok, the empty lot down the street....

 

 

 

 

>To put a slightly different perspective on things, would you have

>major problems eating a carrot or lettuce if you knew that the

>producer had taken steps to control local slug populations (ie,

>killing them) in order to protect those crops? If you grew your own

>veg would you have problems with killing slugs yourself that

>threatened your crops? having kept allotments and gardens since 1984,

>I can tell you that even as a vegan I have no such scruples!

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>> and, if ya want to use " overpopulation " as an argument, well, i

>might as well go next door and wack off my neighbors..there are a ton

>of poor folks living in a little house next door to me....long pig

>anyone?

>> (i hope to bacchus you can see the tongue in my cheek)

>

>absolutely!! Jane- am I person who remotely takes anything or anybody

>seriously???? (PS what about the Cardboard Box Protection League?

>have you reported me yet for my despicable conduct at the Vegan

>Festival??)

>

>Cheers,

>

>Graham

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