[100% veg*n ] Worm bins & horse shit...

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Of course there are different ways to tame horses too though. There was

that movie based on the real guy, called the " Horse Whisperer. " And

apparently the guy in real life is even more relaxed and gentle than in the

movie. I heard something on NPR or BBC about this a couple years back. I

still think you are right about the grayness of this area, but at least here

is more info.

 

Alan

 

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" Graham Burnett " <grahamburnett

<vegan-network >

Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:40 PM

[100% veg*n ] Worm bins & horse shit...

 

 

> Hi all,

>

> Following some of the recent discussions of possible vegan 'grey areas' at

this

> list (which BTW I'm very pleased to say have been discused in a pretty

open,

> constructive and non-dogmatic way not always to be experienced on the

great World

> Wide Web!!), I've forwrded this extract from a private post from a fellow

> permaculturist which explores a couple more of those 'tricky areas'- I'd

be

> interested in others' views....

>

> (my comments are the non-quoted bits BTW)

>

> >Found myself wondering what the Vegan position on Wormbins is. Is it

> exploiting the animals for their by product?

>

> Theres no 'hard & fast' vegan line, as much diversity as within

permaculture

> really- some 'hardliners' might say 'no', but I see the relationship as

> non-exploitative- worms are given a healthy diet/environment, none get

harmed when

> harvesting the product (maybe the odd one gets squashed), it's a

sustainable way of

> recycling an element of household waste- whats the problem?

>

> > imagine vegan organic

> eschews horseshit too.

>

> Slightly more complex q. from the strict vegan POV- many would argue that

the horse

> shit is an output from an essentially exploitative relationship- not sure

i agree-

> horsedrawn has to be more sustainable than cars/petrochemical- I see no

reason why

> mutually respectful relations between horses & people can't be sorted

myself- one

> arguement I've heard is that the process of 'breaking in'/taming a hosre

to do the

> will of 'people' is essentially abusive, punishments involving pain unless

the

> horse

> behaves in the desired way to 'teach' it...

>

> Cheers,

>

> Graham

> www.landandliberty.co.uk

>

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