Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 > I'm always afraid of overloading in protein from tofu, beans and legumes... >although I know I need it to build the muscles, do you know how much is >appropriate for someone who is on a diet? how old are you Honor? i just ask that because i guess that you are not going to grow upwards any more, even if you are going to grow outwards .... that is part of age and tied up with many issues; sesonal, emotional and physical. the amount od protein eated in the west is way out of proportion with actual needs which can be supplied by a grain based diet.. i just wanted to say that the early nutritional concept of dividing foods into 3 categories of proteins, carbs and fats, is very basic and misleading. for example, did you know that buckwheat has proportionately as much protein in it as steak? grains, eaten in combination with the odd bit of bean or lentil have as much or more available protein at less cost to the body system than meats. the key to healt lies in the proportion of carbs to protein to fats which is approximately 25 to 5 to 1 [ or 5 to 1 and then 5 to 1 again ]. personally, i find the only times i put on weight are when i eat late at night a lot, eat a lot of fats combined with carbs [ e.g. lot of oil on rice, sweet biscuits or sweeties ] or binge on loaf of bread and a pot of pure fruit jam but then i pretty much exclude any sugar and stupid stuff like processed foods, ice creams and things. [ teeth come first in eating ]. Ian raised an important issue of water retention, is it actually fat or is it volume created by water. water in the body comes as a by process of eating too many fast burning carbs, e.g. sugars, sugary things - although i defy anyone to become fat by eating fruit! soya milk is going to go straight through you and cant be blames but you might be taking too many liquids, particularly cold liquids that are bad for the body system. a " fat " body type can also be emotional and comes at a time to emotional stress or as part of a psychological, genetic type. if that is so then you have to rethink your strategy. in my own case, i can see when i go on a bread and strawberry jam binge it is emotional as i go for the same Scottish bread i used to eat as a kid because it reminds or being there as a kid. [ this is confessional not giving advice, i am sure that you know all this stuff. i just do it when i need love, shucks. ] i get stuffed but it seems to drop off quickly when i eat normally. in winter i put on weight because the cold and dark depresses me and i can run around as much as usual. i just accept it. what are you going through and how much are you actually eating? you might need to find clean alternatives to those items that are puffing you up, e.g. rice cakes instead of buscuits. malnurishment in the vegan diet is rare. take care of your vitamins and minerals with a tonic or quality " food state " tablet and then pretty much eat " normally " . I am picking up on your name Chan and guess that you are of oriental origin, you must have a pretty good idea of what is a well balanced diet. my last word of food is always watch sugar. just cut it right out - and dont use artificial sweetners - and then see what happens. that includes hidden sugars in food, alcohol etc too. you might go nuts for a week or two with withdrawal symptoms but stick with it and you body will start to finds its own balance again. it is not about fat but balance. food for thought not a religion. i am interested in alan mcclure's advice as body builders general know more about nurtition than doctors and push the limits! once you have seen the way they lean down to paper thin skin over pure muscle yoy will never look at your own waistline the same way again. but it takes resolve of steel. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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