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The question is, are pearls removed from shells that still have the

oyster's in them? If so, I can't imagine anyone taking care not to hurt

the oyster.

 

Actually, it's on a list of animal products at

http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info30.html.

 

Sorry, it doesn't sound like you're having a fun Christmas, at least as

far as presents are concerned :(.

 

Honor Chan wrote:

>

> Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that they aren't.

> However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find some more

> information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just got a pearl

> necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at least 30! So

> that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to me because

> she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would really hurt

> her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to discover that

> pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that, perhaps I'll

> just keep it without ever wearing it!

>

> Waiting for good news!

>

> And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked for in my

> previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

>

> Honor

>

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technically speaking, pearls are not vegan...neither the natural nor cultured

variety...

you have to kill the oyster basically to get the pearl out...

not to mention the fact that overfishing of oysters(along with general

overfishing) have made wastelands of different sections of the oceans

fraggle

" Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

 

>Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that they aren't.

>However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find some more

>information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just got a pearl

>necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at least 30! So

>that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to me because

>she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would really hurt

>her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to discover that

>pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that, perhaps I'll

>just keep it without ever wearing it!

>

>Waiting for good news!

>

>And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked for in my

>previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

>

>Honor

>

>_______________

>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

>

>

>

>To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

vegan-network-digest

>

>

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( " DUH! " Honor says to herself) Of course pearls aren't vegan...now I have

to figure out how to nicely return that pearl necklace to my mom without

making her cry...

 

Wish me luck!

 

Honor

 

 

>EBbrewpunx

>vegan-network

>vegan-network

>RE: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:51:24 -0500

>

>

>technically speaking, pearls are not vegan...neither the natural nor

>cultured variety...

>you have to kill the oyster basically to get the pearl out...

>not to mention the fact that overfishing of oysters(along with general

>overfishing) have made wastelands of different sections of the oceans

>fraggle

> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

>

> >Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that they aren't.

> >However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find some

>more

> >information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just got a

>pearl

> >necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at least 30!

>So

> >that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to me

>because

> >she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would really

>hurt

> >her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to discover that

> >pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that, perhaps

>I'll

> >just keep it without ever wearing it!

> >

> >Waiting for good news!

> >

> >And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked for in my

> >previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

> >

> >Honor

> >

> >_______________

> >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

> >

> >

> >

> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

>vegan-network-digest

> >

> >

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no biggie

people still ask me if i eat fish and chicken..

yes, of course i do, from the poultry tree in my backyard...

fraggle

 

 

" Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

 

>( " DUH! " Honor says to herself) Of course pearls aren't vegan...now I have

>to figure out how to nicely return that pearl necklace to my mom without

>making her cry...

>

>Wish me luck!

>

>Honor

>

>

>>EBbrewpunx

>>vegan-network

>>vegan-network

>>RE: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

>>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:51:24 -0500

>>

>>

>>technically speaking, pearls are not vegan...neither the natural nor

>>cultured variety...

>>you have to kill the oyster basically to get the pearl out...

>>not to mention the fact that overfishing of oysters(along with general

>>overfishing) have made wastelands of different sections of the oceans

>>fraggle

>> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

>>

>> >Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that they aren't.

>> >However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find some

>>more

>> >information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just got a

>>pearl

>> >necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at least 30!

>>So

>> >that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to me

>>because

>> >she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would really

>>hurt

>> >her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to discover that

>> >pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that, perhaps

>>I'll

>> >just keep it without ever wearing it!

>> >

>> >Waiting for good news!

>> >

>> >And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked for in my

>> >previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

>> >

>> >Honor

>> >

>> >_______________

>> >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

>>vegan-network-digest

>> >

>> >

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*shrug*

 

It was just possible that some quirk of nature protected the oysters

until after they die and the shell floats from A to B, or becomes

openable, or something.

 

So it wasn't a silly question.

 

EBbrewpunx wrote:

>

> no biggie

> people still ask me if i eat fish and chicken..

> yes, of course i do, from the poultry tree in my backyard...

> fraggle

>

> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

>

> >( " DUH! " Honor says to herself) Of course pearls aren't vegan...now I have

> >to figure out how to nicely return that pearl necklace to my mom without

> >making her cry...

> >

> >Wish me luck!

> >

> >Honor

> >

> >

> >>EBbrewpunx

> >>vegan-network

> >>vegan-network

> >>RE: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

> >>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:51:24 -0500

> >>

> >>

> >>technically speaking, pearls are not vegan...neither the natural nor

> >>cultured variety...

> >>you have to kill the oyster basically to get the pearl out...

> >>not to mention the fact that overfishing of oysters(along with general

> >>overfishing) have made wastelands of different sections of the oceans

> >>fraggle

> >> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

> >>

> >> >Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that they aren't.

> >> >However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find some

> >>more

> >> >information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just got a

> >>pearl

> >> >necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at least 30!

> >>So

> >> >that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to me

> >>because

> >> >she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would really

> >>hurt

> >> >her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to discover that

> >> >pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that, perhaps

> >>I'll

> >> >just keep it without ever wearing it!

> >> >

> >> >Waiting for good news!

> >> >

> >> >And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked for in my

> >> >previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

> >> >

> >> >Honor

> >> >

> >> >_______________

> >> >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

> >>vegan-network-digest

> >> >

> >> >

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oysters are either harvested by professionals , or , are " farmed " in beds

either way..they are cut open by shuckers and the pearl is removed...

 

fraggle

Dr Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald wrote:

 

>*shrug*

>

>It was just possible that some quirk of nature protected the oysters

>until after they die and the shell floats from A to B, or becomes

>openable, or something.

>

>So it wasn't a silly question.

>

>EBbrewpunx wrote:

>>

>> no biggie

>> people still ask me if i eat fish and chicken..

>> yes, of course i do, from the poultry tree in my backyard...

>> fraggle

>>

>> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

>>

>> >( " DUH! " Honor says to herself) Of course pearls aren't vegan...now I have

>> >to figure out how to nicely return that pearl necklace to my mom without

>> >making her cry...

>> >

>> >Wish me luck!

>> >

>> >Honor

>> >

>> >

>> >>EBbrewpunx

>> >>vegan-network

>> >>vegan-network

>> >>RE: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

>> >>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:51:24 -0500

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>technically speaking, pearls are not vegan...neither the natural nor

>> >>cultured variety...

>> >>you have to kill the oyster basically to get the pearl out...

>> >>not to mention the fact that overfishing of oysters(along with general

>> >>overfishing) have made wastelands of different sections of the oceans

>> >>fraggle

>> >> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

>> >>

>> >> >Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that they aren't.

>> >> >However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find some

>> >>more

>> >> >information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just got a

>> >>pearl

>> >> >necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at least 30!

>> >>So

>> >> >that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to me

>> >>because

>> >> >she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would really

>> >>hurt

>> >> >her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to discover that

>> >> >pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that, perhaps

>> >>I'll

>> >> >just keep it without ever wearing it!

>> >> >

>> >> >Waiting for good news!

>> >> >

>> >> >And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked for in my

>> >> >previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

>> >> >

>> >> >Honor

>> >> >

>> >> >_______________

>> >> >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

>> >>vegan-network-digest

>> >> >

>> >> >

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i get the fish one all the time.....

 

it's like " i'm a vegan...no meat poultry eggs milk...butter...nope

nothing from animals..... "

 

" so you still eat fish right? " grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

 

lol

 

casey

 

EBbrewpunx wrote:

>

> no biggie

> people still ask me if i eat fish and chicken..

> yes, of course i do, from the poultry tree in my backyard...

> fraggle

>

> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

>

> >( " DUH! " Honor says to herself) Of course pearls aren't vegan...now I have

> >to figure out how to nicely return that pearl necklace to my mom without

> >making her cry...

> >

> >Wish me luck!

> >

> >Honor

> >

> >

> >>EBbrewpunx

> >>vegan-network

> >>vegan-network

> >>RE: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

> >>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:51:24 -0500

> >>

> >>

> >>technically speaking, pearls are not vegan...neither the natural nor

> >>cultured variety...

> >>you have to kill the oyster basically to get the pearl out...

> >>not to mention the fact that overfishing of oysters(along with general

> >>overfishing) have made wastelands of different sections of the oceans

> >>fraggle

> >> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

> >>

> >> >Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that they aren't.

> >> >However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find some

> >>more

> >> >information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just got a

> >>pearl

> >> >necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at least 30!

> >>So

> >> >that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to me

> >>because

> >> >she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would really

> >>hurt

> >> >her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to discover that

> >> >pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that, perhaps

> >>I'll

> >> >just keep it without ever wearing it!

> >> >

> >> >Waiting for good news!

> >> >

> >> >And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked for in my

> >> >previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

> >> >

> >> >Honor

> >> >

> >> >_______________

> >> >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to:

> >>vegan-network-digest

> >> >

> >> >

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Hey, didn't you know fish are vegetables!!! But on the pearl topic, as

pearls come from animals they cannot be considered vegan.

 

But seriously, I think the issue is complicated for non-veg people by a

couple of factors:

 

1) A lot of people call themselves vegetarian or vegan, yet still

consume fish. This makes the situation tougher for we genuine veg-heads,

who have to continually have to explain that fish, chicken stock etc,

even in the smallest amounts, is NOT acceptable

 

2) According to the kosher laws, fish are categorised along with

vegetables, rather than being categorised as meat. So, for example, it

is okay for a jewish person who keeps kosher to eat fish with a milky

sauce, but not chicken.

 

It's incredibly aggravating, but I think the best we can do is simply

smile and say " no, fishes are animals, don't you think? And I don't eat

animals. "

 

Cheers,

 

Daharja

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http://www.veganforlife.org

http://www.moonspellcoven.com

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--

 

 

 

THOMPSON CASEY wrote:

 

> i get the fish one all the time.....

>

> it's like " i'm a vegan...no meat poultry eggs milk...butter...nope

> nothing from animals..... "

>

> " so you still eat fish right? " grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

>

> lol

>

> casey

>

> EBbrewpunx wrote:

> >

> > no biggie

> > people still ask me if i eat fish and chicken..

> > yes, of course i do, from the poultry tree in my backyard...

> > fraggle

> >

> > " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

> >

> > >( " DUH! " Honor says to herself) Of course pearls aren't vegan...now

> I have

> > >to figure out how to nicely return that pearl necklace to my mom

> without

> > >making her cry...

> > >

> > >Wish me luck!

> > >

> > >Honor

> > >

> > >

> > >>EBbrewpunx

> > >>vegan-network

> > >>vegan-network

> > >>RE: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

> > >>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:51:24 -0500

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>technically speaking, pearls are not vegan...neither the natural

> nor

> > >>cultured variety...

> > >>you have to kill the oyster basically to get the pearl out...

> > >>not to mention the fact that overfishing of oysters(along with

> general

> > >>overfishing) have made wastelands of different sections of the

> oceans

> > >>fraggle

> > >> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote:

> > >>

> > >> >Considering that they come from mollusks, I would think that

> they aren't.

> > >> >However, I have been going through a lot of sites trying to find

> some

> > >>more

> > >> >information on pearls, but I haven't found much so far. I just

> got a

> > >>pearl

> > >> >necklace from my mom (and it isn't just one pearl, it has at

> least 30!

> > >>So

> > >> >that was 30 oysters at least!), she was nervous in giving it to

> me

> > >>because

> > >> >she didn't realize before that I may not want it. But it would

> really

> > >>hurt

> > >> >her to give the necklace back, which is why I'm hoping to

> discover that

> > >> >pearls are vegan! Though I may not have much luck with that,

> perhaps

> > >>I'll

> > >> >just keep it without ever wearing it!

> > >> >

> > >> >Waiting for good news!

> > >> >

> > >> >And by the way, I have found the info I need (the info I asked

> for in my

> > >> >previous e-mail " Shopaholic needs help " ) from a PETA site...

> > >> >

> > >> >Honor

> > >> >

> > >>

> >_______________

> > >> >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

> http://messenger.msn.com

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email

> to:

> > >>vegan-network-digest

> > >> >

> > >> >

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my father asks me that one every year or so when i see him

" so , do you eat fish? " ..ummm..no dad

" chicken " ?

nooo

" eggs? "

yes father, they grow from eggplants..no father, i do not eat any animal or

something that was exploited from an animal

" oh, well, fish isn't an animal "

*groan*

oh weeelll..one gets use to it

ack..pasta boiling over

*runs to kitchen*

fraggle

 

 

In a message dated 12/29/01 2:17:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

veganmunkee writes:

 

<< i get the fish one all the time.....

 

it's like " i'm a vegan...no meat poultry eggs milk...butter...nope

nothing from animals..... "

 

" so you still eat fish right? " grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

 

lol

 

casey >>

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You could always try a bit of sarcasm:

 

" oh, well, fish isn't an animal "

*groan*

" of course you're right, dad - fishes are vegetables, and they grow in

the ground along with the turnips! "

 

My parents went through the whole 'well, you'll still eat fish, won't

you? " thing - it's amazing how dumb people can be sometimes. My mother

still can't understand why I won't eat anything with butter or chicken

stock in it - after all, a little bit of stock won't hurt me, will it?

NO - BUT IT SURE AS HELL HURT THE CHICKEN!!!

 

:-)

 

Dedicated vegans have to be the calmest, most relaxed people in the

world to cope with it all, I'm sure of it!

 

Leanne Daharja XXX

 

EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

> my father asks me that one every year or so when i see him

> " so , do you eat fish? " ..ummm..no dad

> " chicken " ?

> nooo

> " eggs? "

> yes father, they grow from eggplants..no father, i do not eat any

> animal or

> something that was exploited from an animal

> " oh, well, fish isn't an animal "

> *groan*

> oh weeelll..one gets use to it

> ack..pasta boiling over

> *runs to kitchen*

> fraggle

>

>

> In a message dated 12/29/01 2:17:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> veganmunkee writes:

>

> << i get the fish one all the time.....

>

> it's like " i'm a vegan...no meat poultry eggs milk...butter...nope

> nothing from animals..... "

>

> " so you still eat fish right? " grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

>

> lol

>

> casey >>

>

>

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LOL...I get that a lot, too...and I don't think we're alone. Thanks to all

those " vegetarians " who eat chicken and fish!

 

Honor

 

 

>EBbrewpunx

>vegan-network

>vegan-network

>Re: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

>Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:45:13 EST

>

>my father asks me that one every year or so when i see him

> " so , do you eat fish? " ..ummm..no dad

> " chicken " ?

>nooo

> " eggs? "

>yes father, they grow from eggplants..no father, i do not eat any animal or

>something that was exploited from an animal

> " oh, well, fish isn't an animal "

>*groan*

>oh weeelll..one gets use to it

>ack..pasta boiling over

>*runs to kitchen*

>fraggle

>

>

>In a message dated 12/29/01 2:17:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

>veganmunkee writes:

>

><< i get the fish one all the time.....

>

> it's like " i'm a vegan...no meat poultry eggs milk...butter...nope

> nothing from animals..... "

>

> " so you still eat fish right? " grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

>

> lol

>

> casey >>

 

 

 

 

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hahahah i like it...teh fish grow next to the turnips lol

 

casey

 

Leanne Daharja Veitch wrote:

>

> You could always try a bit of sarcasm:

>

> " oh, well, fish isn't an animal "

> *groan*

> " of course you're right, dad - fishes are vegetables, and they grow in

> the ground along with the turnips! "

>

> My parents went through the whole 'well, you'll still eat fish, won't

> you? " thing - it's amazing how dumb people can be sometimes. My mother

> still can't understand why I won't eat anything with butter or chicken

> stock in it - after all, a little bit of stock won't hurt me, will it?

> NO - BUT IT SURE AS HELL HURT THE CHICKEN!!!

>

> :-)

>

> Dedicated vegans have to be the calmest, most relaxed people in the

> world to cope with it all, I'm sure of it!

>

> Leanne Daharja XXX

>

> EBbrewpunx wrote:

>

> > my father asks me that one every year or so when i see him

> > " so , do you eat fish? " ..ummm..no dad

> > " chicken " ?

> > nooo

> > " eggs? "

> > yes father, they grow from eggplants..no father, i do not eat any

> > animal or

> > something that was exploited from an animal

> > " oh, well, fish isn't an animal "

> > *groan*

> > oh weeelll..one gets use to it

> > ack..pasta boiling over

> > *runs to kitchen*

> > fraggle

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 12/29/01 2:17:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> > veganmunkee writes:

> >

> > << i get the fish one all the time.....

> >

> > it's like " i'm a vegan...no meat poultry eggs milk...butter...nope

> > nothing from animals..... "

> >

> > " so you still eat fish right? " grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

> >

> > lol

> >

> > casey >>

> >

> >

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yeha that pisses me off... i hear it all the time...i'm a vegetarian and

i eat chicken and fish though....... i'm like....uhhh you're not a

vegetarian.... their like...yes i am!!! i'm like ummmmmmm ok...

 

casey

 

Honor Chan wrote:

>

> LOL...I get that a lot, too...and I don't think we're alone. Thanks to all

> those " vegetarians " who eat chicken and fish!

>

> Honor

>

> >EBbrewpunx

> >vegan-network

> >vegan-network

> >Re: [100% veg*n ] Are pearls vegan?

> >Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:45:13 EST

> >

> >my father asks me that one every year or so when i see him

> > " so , do you eat fish? " ..ummm..no dad

> > " chicken " ?

> >nooo

> > " eggs? "

> >yes father, they grow from eggplants..no father, i do not eat any animal or

> >something that was exploited from an animal

> > " oh, well, fish isn't an animal "

> >*groan*

> >oh weeelll..one gets use to it

> >ack..pasta boiling over

> >*runs to kitchen*

> >fraggle

> >

> >

> >In a message dated 12/29/01 2:17:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> >veganmunkee writes:

> >

> ><< i get the fish one all the time.....

> >

> > it's like " i'm a vegan...no meat poultry eggs milk...butter...nope

> > nothing from animals..... "

> >

> > " so you still eat fish right? " grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

> >

> > lol

> >

> > casey >>

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