Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 not all of these are not vegan (did that make sense) some, most in some cases, of these products are made by companies that test on animals, or have animal ingredients in their production, but, there are alternatives and some manufacturers that do not use animals as for what is available in hong kong, your guess is as good as mine... *shrugs* are you willing to order thru the mail?? fraggle " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: >Perhaps I should have asked this sooner, which of the following are not >vegan? > >Nail polish >Hair Dye (I know this isn't vegan...what is the vegan substitute?) >Hair straightening/curling/perming chemicals (I have no idea what they're >actually called) >Body wax >Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really dumb, but I >honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) > >And another thing: make up. I've nearly memorized the PETA list of animal >testing companies and the list of those that don't animal test, but I don't >know if non-animal-testing means that these companies do not make products >that contain animal-derived ingredients. What make-up products are bound to >contain animal-derived ingredients? > >Thanks everyone! >Honor > > >_______________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 That's another reason why we need a HK vegan shopping guide! Really need to work on that...and what websites (apart from PETA, coz I've already checked it out) have a very complete (or as close to complete as possible) list of animal ingredients and alternatives? Honor >EBbrewpunx >vegan-network >vegan-network >RE: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! >Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:29:34 -0500 > >not all of these are not vegan >(did that make sense) >some, most in some cases, of these products are made by companies that test >on animals, or have animal ingredients in their production, but, there are >alternatives and some manufacturers that do not use animals >as for what is available in hong kong, your guess is as good as mine... >*shrugs* >are you willing to order thru the mail?? > >fraggle > > > " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: > > >Perhaps I should have asked this sooner, which of the following are not > >vegan? > > > >Nail polish > >Hair Dye (I know this isn't vegan...what is the vegan substitute?) > >Hair straightening/curling/perming chemicals (I have no idea what they're > >actually called) > >Body wax > >Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really dumb, but >I > >honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) > > > >And another thing: make up. I've nearly memorized the PETA list of >animal > >testing companies and the list of those that don't animal test, but I >don't > >know if non-animal-testing means that these companies do not make >products > >that contain animal-derived ingredients. What make-up products are bound >to > >contain animal-derived ingredients? > > > >Thanks everyone! > >Honor > > > > > >_______________ > >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: >vegan-network-digest > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 i think ian mentioned one i am not at home, so don't have my links available.. someone out there, a little help!! fraggle " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: >That's another reason why we need a HK vegan shopping guide! Really need to >work on that...and what websites (apart from PETA, coz I've already checked >it out) have a very complete (or as close to complete as possible) list of >animal ingredients and alternatives? > >Honor > > >>EBbrewpunx >>vegan-network >>vegan-network >>RE: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! >>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:29:34 -0500 >> >>not all of these are not vegan >>(did that make sense) >>some, most in some cases, of these products are made by companies that test >>on animals, or have animal ingredients in their production, but, there are >>alternatives and some manufacturers that do not use animals >>as for what is available in hong kong, your guess is as good as mine... >>*shrugs* >>are you willing to order thru the mail?? >> >>fraggle >> >> >> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: >> >> >Perhaps I should have asked this sooner, which of the following are not >> >vegan? >> > >> >Nail polish >> >Hair Dye (I know this isn't vegan...what is the vegan substitute?) >> >Hair straightening/curling/perming chemicals (I have no idea what they're >> >actually called) >> >Body wax >> >Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really dumb, but >>I >> >honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) >> > >> >And another thing: make up. I've nearly memorized the PETA list of >>animal >> >testing companies and the list of those that don't animal test, but I >>don't >> >know if non-animal-testing means that these companies do not make >>products >> >that contain animal-derived ingredients. What make-up products are bound >>to >> >contain animal-derived ingredients? >> > >> >Thanks everyone! >> >Honor >> > >> > >> >_______________ >> >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >> >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx >> > >> > >> > >> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: >>vegan-network-digest >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 > Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really dumb, but I > honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) hi again what country are you in, again? was it hong kong? i get my toiletries from lush, who do a wonderful range of vegan products. you can find out if they have a store near you at http://www.lush.co.uk/pages/whereisl.html good luck sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 www.vegansociety.com is good, but I don't think it spells out the alternatives. Its vegan shopper is very UK based. On the bright side, Honor probably has better access to Soya products than us. I think. Honor, did you grow up drinking soya milk? EBbrewpunx wrote: > > i think ian mentioned one > i am not at home, so don't have my links available.. > someone out there, a little help!! > fraggle > > " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: > > >That's another reason why we need a HK vegan shopping guide! Really need to > >work on that...and what websites (apart from PETA, coz I've already checked > >it out) have a very complete (or as close to complete as possible) list of > >animal ingredients and alternatives? > > > >Honor > > > > > >>EBbrewpunx > >>vegan-network > >>vegan-network > >>RE: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! > >>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:29:34 -0500 > >> > >>not all of these are not vegan > >>(did that make sense) > >>some, most in some cases, of these products are made by companies that test > >>on animals, or have animal ingredients in their production, but, there are > >>alternatives and some manufacturers that do not use animals > >>as for what is available in hong kong, your guess is as good as mine... > >>*shrugs* > >>are you willing to order thru the mail?? > >> > >>fraggle > >> > >> > >> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: > >> > >> >Perhaps I should have asked this sooner, which of the following are not > >> >vegan? > >> > > >> >Nail polish > >> >Hair Dye (I know this isn't vegan...what is the vegan substitute?) > >> >Hair straightening/curling/perming chemicals (I have no idea what they're > >> >actually called) > >> >Body wax > >> >Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really dumb, but > >>I > >> >honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) > >> > > >> >And another thing: make up. I've nearly memorized the PETA list of > >>animal > >> >testing companies and the list of those that don't animal test, but I > >>don't > >> >know if non-animal-testing means that these companies do not make > >>products > >> >that contain animal-derived ingredients. What make-up products are bound > >>to > >> >contain animal-derived ingredients? > >> > > >> >Thanks everyone! > >> >Honor > >> > > >> > > >> >_______________ > >> >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > >> >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: > >>vegan-network-digest > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Oh yeah, I think I know Lush...I believe I have seen it (and even purchased something from it) before when I was still in Singapore. But I don't think that Singapore outlet ships, and Hong Kong is not listed as one of the places the UK store would ship their products to. But I'll probably just fly into Singapore to load up on their products! By the way, does the Body Shop guarantee that it uses no animal ingredients? I have looked at its website, but all it goes on about is its stance against animal testing...and I'm just as puzzled about Aveda... Comments on these two companies anyone (they happen to be the closest I can get to animal-friendly cosmetics here in HK)? Thanks! Honor > " sarah monster " <chocofungi >vegan-network ><vegan-network > >Re: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! >Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:10:39 -0000 > > > Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really dumb, >but I > > honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) > >hi again >what country are you in, again? was it hong kong? >i get my toiletries from lush, who do a wonderful range of vegan products. >you can >find out if they have a store near you at >http://www.lush.co.uk/pages/whereisl.html > >good luck >sarah > _______________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 You're right, we Chinese are big on soya products (actually, there really isn't anything that Chinese aren't big on when it comes to 'food'...). And I did grow up drinking a lot of soy milk, and we do get many kinds of tofu to choose from but that's just as far as it goes when it comes to being vegan here! (When I go into a restaurant and say I'm vegan (or vegetarian, but I do not take dairy products nor eggs), they gladly serve some veggie dish. But once I take the first bite and taste that something is wrong, they also gladly say, " Yes, we first cook that in chicken broth. " or " We fried the vegetables in shrimp paste. " What can we do with these people????!!!!) Honor >Dr Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald >vegan-network >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! >Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:26:53 +0000 > >www.vegansociety.com is good, but I don't think it spells out the >alternatives. Its vegan shopper is very UK based. > >On the bright side, Honor probably has better access to Soya products >than us. I think. Honor, did you grow up drinking soya milk? > >EBbrewpunx wrote: > > > > i think ian mentioned one > > i am not at home, so don't have my links available.. > > someone out there, a little help!! > > fraggle > > > > " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: > > > > >That's another reason why we need a HK vegan shopping guide! Really >need to > > >work on that...and what websites (apart from PETA, coz I've already >checked > > >it out) have a very complete (or as close to complete as possible) list >of > > >animal ingredients and alternatives? > > > > > >Honor > > > > > > > > >>EBbrewpunx > > >>vegan-network > > >>vegan-network > > >>RE: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! > > >>Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:29:34 -0500 > > >> > > >>not all of these are not vegan > > >>(did that make sense) > > >>some, most in some cases, of these products are made by companies that >test > > >>on animals, or have animal ingredients in their production, but, there >are > > >>alternatives and some manufacturers that do not use animals > > >>as for what is available in hong kong, your guess is as good as >mine... > > >>*shrugs* > > >>are you willing to order thru the mail?? > > >> > > >>fraggle > > >> > > >> > > >> " Honor Chan " <honor_chan wrote: > > >> > > >> >Perhaps I should have asked this sooner, which of the following are >not > > >> >vegan? > > >> > > > >> >Nail polish > > >> >Hair Dye (I know this isn't vegan...what is the vegan substitute?) > > >> >Hair straightening/curling/perming chemicals (I have no idea what >they're > > >> >actually called) > > >> >Body wax > > >> >Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really >dumb, but > > >>I > > >> >honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) > > >> > > > >> >And another thing: make up. I've nearly memorized the PETA list of > > >>animal > > >> >testing companies and the list of those that don't animal test, but >I > > >>don't > > >> >know if non-animal-testing means that these companies do not make > > >>products > > >> >that contain animal-derived ingredients. What make-up products are >bound > > >>to > > >> >contain animal-derived ingredients? > > >> > > > >> >Thanks everyone! > > >> >Honor > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >_______________ > > >> >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > >> >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: > > >>vegan-network-digest > > >> > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Unfortunately, neither Aveda nor the Body Shop can guarantee that they don't use animal products. The Body Shop's animal testing policy is full of loopholes, as well, which means that if it's been five years since any of the ingredients was tested, they'll use that ingredient. It sucks. The Body Shop's fair trade policy is admirable, but other than that, they're shite. I'll see what I can find regarding other truly cruelty-free lines which would be available in HK. xxk@xx Honor Chan [honor_chan] 28 December 2001 08:14 vegan-network Re: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! Oh yeah, I think I know Lush...I believe I have seen it (and even purchased something from it) before when I was still in Singapore. But I don't think that Singapore outlet ships, and Hong Kong is not listed as one of the places the UK store would ship their products to. But I'll probably just fly into Singapore to load up on their products! By the way, does the Body Shop guarantee that it uses no animal ingredients? I have looked at its website, but all it goes on about is its stance against animal testing...and I'm just as puzzled about Aveda... Comments on these two companies anyone (they happen to be the closest I can get to animal-friendly cosmetics here in HK)? Thanks! Honor > " sarah monster " <chocofungi >vegan-network ><vegan-network > >Re: [100% veg*n ] Shopaholic needs help! >Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:10:39 -0000 > > > Soap, Shampoo, and other body cleansers (This must sound really dumb, >but I > > honestly don't know...do they still use animal fats???) > >hi again >what country are you in, again? was it hong kong? >i get my toiletries from lush, who do a wonderful range of vegan products. >you can >find out if they have a store near you at >http://www.lush.co.uk/pages/whereisl.html > >good luck >sarah > _______________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 >Unfortunately, neither Aveda nor the Body Shop can guarantee that they >don't >use animal products. The Body Shop's animal testing policy is full of >loopholes, as well, which means that if it's been five years since any of >the ingredients was tested, they'll use that ingredient. It sucks. The >Body Shop's fair trade policy is admirable, but other than that, they're >shite. I completely agree. It does 'trick' a lot of consumers who actually wish to purchase animal-friendly products (myself included!). >I'll see what I can find regarding other truly cruelty-free lines which >would be available in HK. Please! Thank you sooooo much!!! Honor _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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