Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Hi jeyrb, It's a shame that Lush, which seems to be a company genuinely interested in selling products that are vegan, can't get its act together when it comes to making its products low-irritant. The BodyShop are the same. Lush products will often cause problems for many people because they're so highly fragranced. Although ingredients such as lemon, peppermint, clove etc may sound natural and smell nice, they're all known potent skin irritants. I mean, would you put clove oil in your eyes? Yet you're supposed to bathe in Lush products that contain these ingredients, soaking your body's mucous membranes in them! I think the best way to appreciate Lush is to just walk past and enjoy the smell :-) But unless you want sore, itchy, irritated skin, avoid buying Lush products at all costs. Same goes for most of the BodyShop range - they all sound nice and natural, but the whole " natural " front is a facade designed to sell more product, not to provide products that improve your skin. While on this topic, the best products to stick with are simple, unfragranced, uncolored products. Using a plain vegetable based wash for your skin and hair (such bases are available at a lot of chemists, soap, and health shops), and use plain unfragranced sorboline (the type without the added lanolin, which is animal based) and plain unfragranced mineral oil (available from chemists and supermarkets in the medical section) for moisturising. As far as anti-ageing products go, ignore all the products you see in the department stores in the cosmetic section, and go straight to the sunblocks - and look for AT LEAST SPF15+, chemical-based sunblocks that have zinc oxide, avobenzone, titanium dioxide, or Parsol 1789 as the main protective ingredient. Use sunblock daily on all exposed areas of your skin (excluding mucous membranes such as your lips, for which specific sunblocks are available) - this is the only proven way to slow the process of ageing, as something like 95% of visible skin ageing is caused by sun damage. I hope this info is useful, Daharja XXX jeyrb wrote: > i loved the fun lush smells & shapes, until i found myself allergic > to everything i tried, and known others who've been the same. not > sure if there's something particular in their products, or if it's > skin sensitivity to anything other than pure soap > > anybody else like lush, and the little green v's on all the vegan > tings, but not able to use it? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Leanne Daharja Veitch wrote: > > While on this topic, the best products to stick with are simple, > unfragranced, uncolored products. Using a plain vegetable based wash for > your skin and hair (such bases are available at a lot of chemists, soap, > and health shops), and use plain unfragranced sorboline (the type > without the added lanolin, which is animal based) and plain unfragranced > mineral oil (available from chemists and supermarkets in the medical > section) for moisturising. As far as anti-ageing products go, ignore all > the products you see in the department stores in the cosmetic section, > and go straight to the sunblocks - and look for AT LEAST SPF15+, > chemical-based sunblocks that have zinc oxide, avobenzone, titanium > dioxide, or Parsol 1789 as the main protective ingredient. Use sunblock > daily on all exposed areas of your skin (excluding mucous membranes such > as your lips, for which specific sunblocks are available) - this is the > only proven way to slow the process of ageing, as something like 95% of > visible skin ageing is caused by sun damage. Even when one doesn't tan, or in winter? I'm not arguing, simply curious. -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 Do lush cater for hypo-allergenic skin types, as all of the products i have seen of theirs have been highley sented? Just wonfered as its a while since i have been into one of their shops. Hannah - " jeyrb " <jeyrb <vegan-network > Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:05 PM [100% veg*n ] Re: The Body Shop and Lush > i loved the fun lush smells & shapes, until i found myself allergic > to everything i tried, and known others who've been the same. not > sure if there's something particular in their products, or if it's > skin sensitivity to anything other than pure soap > > anybody else like lush, and the little green v's on all the vegan > tings, but not able to use it? > > > > To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Dr Ian McDonald wrote: > Leanne Daharja Veitch wrote: > > > As far as anti-ageing products go, ignore all > > the products you see in the department stores in the cosmetic > section, > > and go straight to the sunblocks - and look for AT LEAST SPF15+, > > chemical-based sunblocks that have zinc oxide, avobenzone, titanium > > dioxide, or Parsol 1789 as the main protective ingredient. Use > sunblock > > daily on all exposed areas of your skin (excluding mucous membranes > such > > as your lips, for which specific sunblocks are available) - this is > the > > only proven way to slow the process of ageing, as something like 95% > of > > visible skin ageing is caused by sun damage. > > Even when one doesn't tan, or in winter? > > I'm not arguing, simply curious. Hi, Yes, even when you don't tan (and no sensible person does on purpose), and even in winter. The majority of skin damage that occurs for most people is day to day exposure - even walking from your car or the bus to your workplace can really add up. Also, depending on where you live, UV radiation can actually be higher in winter than in summer. Most people who get skin cancer have never been " tanners " , and skin cancer certainly can develop just from regular, normal exposure. Your chances increase or decrease depending on a number of factors, such as where you live (I live in Australia, where nearly half the poplation will develop skin cancer at some stage in their lives), race etc. But even the darkest skin tones are only the equivalent of about an SPF 5-6, and skin cancer is becoming more prevalent even in countries such as Canada and throughout Scandinavia. There are heaps of good reasons to protect your skin against sun damage, whether you're interested in preventing visible ageing or not, and skin cancer heads the list for me. One of my workmates lost her father to skin cancer just last year and, believe me, it is NOT a nice way to die. Anyway, most countries have an anti-cancer council that will re-iterate most of what I've just said here, if you're interested in further information. But in the meanwhile, PLEASE wear UVA/UVB sunblock - every day. Leanne Daharja Veitch -- Leanne Daharja Veitch -- http://www.geocities.com/daharja http://www.veganforlife.org http://www.moonspellcoven.com -- " We must be the change we wish to see " - M K Gandhi -- > > > -- > Ian McDonald > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Hi, There's actually no medically defined term known as " hypo-allergenic " - it's a catch-phrase used by the cosmetics industry and is legally meaningless. If a company wanted to, it could put every single irritant it knows of into a product, call it " hypo-allergenic " , and the FDA and similar regulatory bodies would have no control over it at all. So lines such as Clinique and Almay who slap the term " allergy-tested " , " hypo-allergenic " etc on their products are no more likely to be good for sensitive skin than any other products. As far as all cosmetics go, apart from ensuring that the product has no animal ingredients, avoiding anything with fragrance and added colorings is a big step towards reducing irritancy. Fragrance doesn't just mean synthetic ingredients either - essential oils such as peppermint, clove, lavender, geranium, sandalwood etc are all irritants and all fall under the category of " fragrance " . You'll probably find you're allergic to every one of them if you have sensitive skin. As far as I know, every Lush product is highly fragranced and is therefore likely to irritate someone with sensitive skin. Most BodyShop products have added color, many have added fragrance, and whether any particular product is good for your skin or not will vary according to the product. Leanne Daharja Veitch -- http://www.geocities.com/daharja http://www.veganforlife.org http://www.moonspellcoven.com -- " We must be the change we wish to see " - M K Gandhi -- Hannah Beaumont wrote: > Do lush cater for hypo-allergenic skin types, as all of the products > i have > seen of theirs have been highley sented? > > Just wonfered as its a while since i have been into one of their > shops. > > Hannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 speakin' of cosmetics and such...what do you folks use for(shudder to use the term)...deodorant??? of course, yer gonna give me some UK brand and i'll just sit here and scratch my lil head..but, thought i'd ask!!! fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 thanx, but i tired the natural crystal thingee, and fer some reason, it just didn't work *sniff sniff* phew thanx anyways tho! fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Hi, I'm presuming you're writing from the US, so the Australian brand I use (Natio) probably isn't available there. But I *do* know that a lot of health shops sell natural crystal deodorants that work really well. Check out your local health food shop - they should be able to put you on track. Otherwise, vegan cosmetics are available at Vegan Essentials. The URL is http://www.veganessentials.com/products/personalcare/deodorant.asp Leanne Daharja XXX EBbrewpunx wrote: > speakin' of cosmetics and such...what do you folks use for(shudder to > use the > term)...deodorant??? > of course, yer gonna give me some UK brand and i'll just sit here and > scratch > my lil head..but, thought i'd ask!!! > fraggle > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 I better stay away from Lush in that case since my skin allergy took 5 years to recover... Thanks for all the info everyone! Honor >Leanne Daharja Veitch <daharja >vegan-network >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] Re: The Body Shop and Lush >Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:50:09 +1100 > >Hi, > >There's actually no medically defined term known as " hypo-allergenic " - >it's a catch-phrase used by the cosmetics industry and is legally >meaningless. If a company wanted to, it could put every single irritant >it knows of into a product, call it " hypo-allergenic " , and the FDA and >similar regulatory bodies would have no control over it at all. So lines >such as Clinique and Almay who slap the term " allergy-tested " , > " hypo-allergenic " etc on their products are no more likely to be good >for sensitive skin than any other products. > >As far as all cosmetics go, apart from ensuring that the product has no >animal ingredients, avoiding anything with fragrance and added colorings >is a big step towards reducing irritancy. Fragrance doesn't just mean >synthetic ingredients either - essential oils such as peppermint, clove, >lavender, geranium, sandalwood etc are all irritants and all fall under >the category of " fragrance " . You'll probably find you're allergic to >every one of them if you have sensitive skin. > >As far as I know, every Lush product is highly fragranced and is >therefore likely to irritate someone with sensitive skin. Most BodyShop >products have added color, many have added fragrance, and whether any >particular product is good for your skin or not will vary according to >the product. > >Leanne Daharja Veitch >-- >http://www.geocities.com/daharja >http://www.veganforlife.org >http://www.moonspellcoven.com >-- > " We must be the change we wish to see " - M K Gandhi >-- > > > >Hannah Beaumont wrote: > > > Do lush cater for hypo-allergenic skin types, as all of the products > > i have > > seen of theirs have been highley sented? > > > > Just wonfered as its a while since i have been into one of their > > shops. > > > > Hannah > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 how about ummmm...wait i forget let me go look...*runs to her room to bust out the deodorant* TOM'S OF MAINE... not tested on animals....and well iuse the honeysuckle rose.... but i believe they have stuff that doesn't stink lol it's american... casey EBbrewpunx wrote: > > speakin' of cosmetics and such...what do you folks use for(shudder to use the > term)...deodorant??? > of course, yer gonna give me some UK brand and i'll just sit here and scratch > my lil head..but, thought i'd ask!!! > fraggle > > > To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 heard awhile back bad tales about toms..i use to use them all the time, deoderant, ttothpaste..then several folks told me they support hunting in maine, and operation rescue dunno if its true er not, but made me stop buying em, even if i couldn't substantiate it i probably should find out fer sure tho..but until then, i stay away from tom's cheers fraggle (how the heck did i get 395 e-mails again..shhhhheeeesh!) THOMPSON CASEY <veganmunkee wrote: >how about ummmm...wait i forget let me go look...*runs to her room to >bust out the deodorant* TOM'S OF MAINE... not tested on animals....and >well iuse the honeysuckle rose.... but i believe they have stuff that >doesn't stink lol it's american... > > casey > >EBbrewpunx wrote: >> >> speakin' of cosmetics and such...what do you folks use for(shudder to use the >> term)...deodorant??? >> of course, yer gonna give me some UK brand and i'll just sit here and scratch >> my lil head..but, thought i'd ask!!! >> fraggle >> >> >> To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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