Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Daharja wrote... , NEVER trust a salesperson without checking >for yourself. This goes for restaurants, eateries etc too. Too many >times I have asked if a dish is vegan, been answered in the affirmative, >then (in the case of Asian dishes in particular) when I have emphasized >that I am ALLERGIC to chicken and will go into shock if there's chicken >stock in it, been informed that actually, yes, the dish does contain >chicken stock. > >Daharja XXX I have often used the 'I'm allergic to dairy products' line in restaurants etc. I thought that would be safe and hoping the chef would be a little more sympathetic than if I said I was vegan. [usually get a funny look then] I have since found out from a friend who works in a hotel kitchen that the chef will still put a little dairy into the food of people who say they are allergic to dairy. This apparently is because the chef knows that a little bit of dairy will not result in a person having an extreme reaction like a nut allergy. So I have now abandoned that idea...must think of new one or try to stick to places I can trust or at least see how food is prepared. Dee _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Dee Matheson wrote: > I have often used the 'I'm allergic to dairy products' line in > restaurants > etc. I thought that would be safe and hoping the chef would be a > little more > sympathetic than if I said I was vegan. [usually get a funny look > then] > I have since found out from a friend who works in a hotel kitchen that > the > chef will still put a little dairy into the food of people who say > they are > allergic to dairy. This apparently is because the chef knows that a > little > bit of dairy will not result in a person having an extreme reaction > like a > nut allergy. So I have now abandoned that idea...must think of new one > or > try to stick to places I can trust or at least see how food is > prepared. > Dee > I never knew that, although I know for certain when I am fed dairy coz I get the worst stomach cramps ever! It does really annoy me though, that chefs would have the absolute bastardness to do that. I guess that's why, more and more, I've moved to eating at vegan and vegetarian restaurants only - I know that they will respect my choices. But the worst offenders are still asian restaurants, IMHO. So many call a dish vegetarian when it's chock-full of fish and chicken stock! I've been served dishes that reeked of fish, but the waiter have instisted are vegan. When I've sent them back, they've given me really dirty looks. As much as I understand that it can't be easy running a restaurant, these people do have to respect the wishes of their patrons. If they really feel they can't cater to a person's needs they should at least be honest and say so, rather than hoping to get away with lying. GRRR!!!! Daharja XXX (sick of being told that fish isn't an animal and that chicken stock doesn't count!) -- Leanne Daharja Veitch -- http://www.geocities.com/daharja http://www.veganforlife.org http://www.moonspellcoven.com -- " We must be the change we wish to see " - M K Gandhi -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 guess i just be lucky one..there are a bunch of vegan and veggie resturants in my area, so, tisn't hard to find good food eating out 2.. we eat out enough that folks get to know us, chefs actually walk up and discuss wots on the menu, wot we can have, etc sometimes its good to be a lush and drink out alot *giggle* (we tend to drink the same places we eat) plus, there are just certain no-no's..mashed potatoes will have butter(or worse)..thai often has shrimp paste..vietnamese has fish oil...miso has bonito...anything fried has been cooked in the same vegetable oil they fry fish in, etc.. i haven't had many problems..and i can generally tell if they screw me up, cuz i get violently ill....whhhheeeeeee fraggle *stomach growls* fraggle " Dee Matheson " <dmatheson72 wrote: > >Daharja wrote... > >, NEVER trust a salesperson without checking >>for yourself. This goes for restaurants, eateries etc too. Too many >>times I have asked if a dish is vegan, been answered in the affirmative, >>then (in the case of Asian dishes in particular) when I have emphasized >>that I am ALLERGIC to chicken and will go into shock if there's chicken >>stock in it, been informed that actually, yes, the dish does contain >>chicken stock. >> >>Daharja XXX > >I have often used the 'I'm allergic to dairy products' line in restaurants >etc. I thought that would be safe and hoping the chef would be a little more >sympathetic than if I said I was vegan. [usually get a funny look then] >I have since found out from a friend who works in a hotel kitchen that the >chef will still put a little dairy into the food of people who say they are >allergic to dairy. This apparently is because the chef knows that a little >bit of dairy will not result in a person having an extreme reaction like a >nut allergy. So I have now abandoned that idea...must think of new one or >try to stick to places I can trust or at least see how food is prepared. >Dee > >_______________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 >Dee Matheson wrote: > > > I have often used the 'I'm allergic to dairy products' line in > > restaurants > > etc. I thought that would be safe and hoping the chef would be a > > little more > > sympathetic than if I said I was vegan. [usually get a funny look > > then] I get funny looks, too, when I say I'm vegan - not because they immediately think, " Whacko! " but because very, very few people here know what veganism is. So, this is where Honor starts to bribe the waiters/waitresses and salespeople... When I go shopping, I tell the salesperson that I'm vegan. I wait for that puzzled " what-the-heck-is-vegan-? " look, and then I explain what it is (I usually do this on weekdays when all the salespeople in shops are free and thus bored, so I have my way of starting some sorta interesting discussion with them). They all gather around, I advertise veganism, with a very, very friendly smile. And then they'd pick out the things that are vegan and I usually buy the stuff. And at restaurants, if I get a dish that has meat/dairy/eggs in it, I'd return it with a smile and a gentle apology (that is, in fact, a complaint like, " Oh, dear, I'm so sorry...but I have to return this because I think the waiter didn't quite take note that I'm vegan...so sorry, dear, You'll have to take this back) with as little sarcasm as possible. I give them a big tip, waiter is happy about it, he apologizes to me, I apologize to him, and this is where I advertise again. They probably still think I'm weird, but the point is to not let them hate vegans in the first place! At least they wouldn't think vegans = troublesome consumers, eh? Well, it may not be the best way to go about this, but there is the possibility that it'd work. > >But the worst offenders are still asian restaurants, IMHO. So many call >a dish vegetarian when it's chock-full of fish and chicken stock! Gosh, do I get enough of that in HK! Honor _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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