Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 >And then there are those " vegetarians " who would >still eat anything that is cooked with meat - as >long as they don't actually eat the MEAT. I get >that a lot here in Hong Kong, and it pisses me off >even more when some say, " The chicken's dead already >anyway. " Hmm, I most definitely try to avoid this but sometimes it's hard, especially when travelling and/or speaking a different language. My point of view is that if it doesn't cause any additional harm to animals by my eating it I'm not going to stress about it too much, but I guess I'm a pretty laid-back type of guy :-) This does not mean I'll eat eggs/flesh/dairy under any circumstances. It's just that I'm not so worried about things being cooked together. It's not so much about purity for me. Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 > This reminds me of when I was last home. My mum moved knives between her > (dairy) margarine, and my bread. When I insisted on cleaning the > bread-knife before cutting my slice, her reaction was " Well how does > that help the animals. " This always brings to light my second reason for being vegan (Number One being ethics): It's just fricken yucky. ;] - Cheryl ..................................... http://www.pickleflick.com/bean http://www.livejournal.com/~ratties AIM: triceratops bean " I'm melting! Melting! Oh, what a world! What a world! Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Honor wrote... .... And at restaurants, if I get a dish that >has meat/dairy/eggs in it, I'd return it with a smile and a gentle apology >(that is, in fact, a complaint like, " Oh, dear, I'm so sorry...but I have >to >return this because I think the waiter didn't quite take note that I'm >vegan...so sorry, dear, You'll have to take this back) with as little >sarcasm as possible. I've had someone thinking I am vegan because they think I want to attract attention. If that was the case then I'd probably do that some other way, like dress up as a clown and dance about a McDonalds or something! Well, quite the opposite is true. I get quite embarrassed and do my best to avoid a fuss. And yes, you're right. Being tactful when dealing with the-'accidental' bit of 'scorched corpse' or parts of 'stolen non-human-animal products'-that manage to find their way into our otherwise lovely food in restaurants, etc, is definately the best way of dealing with staff. I think that if we are rude to them they are more likely to contaminate our food further. Sometimes you can tell just from entering a place how helpful they are going to be. If they stand gaping at you and say " Whaat's a veeeeegaaan? " in an extremely vacant fashion, then you know it's best to simply smile politely and calmly head for the nearest exit. They will never understand, so do not waste your time trying to explain what a vegan is. They will probably serve you a bowl of lard and tell you that it's vegan! Ian McDonald writes... .... My mum moved knives between her >(dairy) margarine, and my bread. When I insisted on cleaning the >bread-knife before cutting my slice, her reaction was " Well how does >that help the animals. " > >She's right. Worrying about cross-contamination doesn't really help the >animals, apart from putting a cost on you and the people who might >cross-contaminate. But I am still much much happier without accidental >traces of dairy on my toast. I'm not sure why. I think it's partially >that drawing a clear line in the sand might make it easier to get taken >seriously. I agree that you have to draw a clear line so as to get taken seriously. Letting 'cross-contaminators' see that we will eat a tiny amount of an animal product may make them think that it will be then be okay to throw in a bit more next time they prepare food for us. " I'm sure they won't mind a wee bit of chicken stock in their soup then, since they ate a bit of butter. " But I guess we all draw our own lines and some of us are fussier than others when it comes to cross-contamination. While my main reason for being vegan is to avoid animal suffering, I have to admit that I have become increasingly obsessive with cross-contamination. And although I realise it is wasteful,[ie buttered knife touching bread, but then birds are always looking for food] I could not bring myself to eat even the slightest trace of animal produce. This, for me, came along with the gradual elimination of first meat, then eggs, then milk. I just got fussier to the point I preferred to have separate pots, pans, plates etc. I know this understandably sounds ridiculous to some people, but it's just what I feel most comfortable with in my own home. For some crazy reason I can enjoy food more with the knowledge that the pot/plate has never had a dead animal on it. Well, would anyone use a bed pan to eat out of, even if had been washed in hot soapy water? Bleeee!!! I've seen the way some folk wash dishes and to me there is nothing worse than being served your food complete with someone elses dried minced beef remains from their last meal! Does that make sense to anyone or am I taking the extreme to the extreme? [Of course, I don't insist on separate dishes if I am anywhere other my own home. Then I'd never be taken seriously!] Dee _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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