Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 charlie_elise wrote: > > Okay-so I haven't been vegan very long. I am phasing out all my non- > vegan stuff. I'm not throwing stuff away just to create new waste and > buy new stuff (can't afford it anyway!) I won't buy another pair of That makes sense. I mean, refusing to use your old leather isn't going to help the animals. (As my mother would say ...). > and so on. Does that make me an ass too? Nup. > I don't think there are any rights or wrongs-it's just the way I'm > doing it. IMHO, there are rights and wrongs ... and a purity crusade would definitely be wrong . > ~xCx~ > -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 That's EXACTLY what I'm doing. I don't think that it would benefit any animals if I threw away the jacket I've had for 7 years and bought a new one, or if I all of a sudden threw away all my old make-up. I'll just be making more animal-friendly choices in the future. Anita ----Original Message Follows---- " charlie_elise " <charlie_elise I am phasing out all my non- vegan stuff. I'm not throwing stuff away just to create new waste and buy new stuff (can't afford it anyway!) _______________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 well, we can all be asses together hope you don't get the impression i am coming down on anyone, er saying " you should do this, er shouldn't do this, i am the high almighty blah blah blah.. " cuz, screw that....we are all doing the best we can, and doin' wot we think be right...and, we can all learn from one another...(just don't pick up my spelling habits!!) i was just remarking, even tho i've been veggie..ummm *thinks*..crap..13 years now..and vegan..ummm..6? 7? 8 years? now, i still haven't gotten rid of my leather jacket, ciuz, well, i bloody well can't afford to get a vegan alternative, which cost in the range of $150..will have to soon tho, since, the old one dead skin one is on its last tatters...besides, i feel bad wearin it and, i still ave my original pair of DM's (from 82 er 83), tho i never wear em anymore *shakes feet with vegan DM's gleefully* we all be trying....and we all can help one another..right right right??? fraggle " charlie_elise " <charlie_elise wrote: >Okay-so I haven't been vegan very long. I am phasing out all my non- >vegan stuff. I'm not throwing stuff away just to create new waste and >buy new stuff (can't afford it anyway!) I won't buy another pair of >leather shoes but I'm not getting rid of my DMs until they fall >apart!! I painted some silk scarves years ago and although I don't >wear them very often, I won't throw them away either. I have to admit >since becoming vegan I wear much less makeup-I feel I'm growing out >of it, but again I'm not throwing anything away until it's all used >up. Then I shall buy new products which shall be carefully researched >and so on. Does that make me an ass too? >I don't think there are any rights or wrongs-it's just the way I'm >doing it. > >~xCx~ > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 In a message dated 1/10/02 5:53:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, honor_chan writes: << *sighs* Lonely vegan in HK, Honor >> no reason to be lonely..ya got us!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Seems like this is our confession session or somethin'...well, in that case, I might as well say that I still have quite a few pairs of leather slippers sitting in my shoe cabinet, and a few leather handbags in my wardrobe. I don't use them anymore and I won't get rid of them until I find the right people to give them to (my shoe size is 5 and my handbags are TINY, too, so not a lot of people appreciate them). I've just taken out my down quilt and replaced it with a cotton/polyester one, now trying to find some place I can donate it to... Of course, it would hard to be 100% vegan, we're just all doing the best we can, trying to get as close as we can to live without exploiting non-human animals. When I accidentally buy something is not vegan, I never use it...I always give it to someone in my family - but if you really think about it, wouldn't I be promoting non-vegan goods? Or, wouldn't I just another hypocrite who pushes the blame of using animal products onto non-vegans? It's hard to get away clean... I want more people to become vegan, but a lot of them feel that vegans are just plain deviant (well, considering what the norm is, we are). And it's difficult to get them to connect with us when we are indeed on different ends of the spectrum - should we compromise to bring them in? But how can we promote something that we cannot uphold ourselves? My family hates it when I talk about being animal and earth-friendly, my sister says I make veganism sound like a religion. Of course, I don't make it sound that way, but she chooses to see it that way so that her not becoming vegan is merely " normal " because I am obviously " crazy. " You don't see how tough the road is gonna be (in promoting a lifestyle free/near free of animal exploitation) until you see how confused the SPCA people look when you tell them you're vegan. HUGE question mark on their faces. And then you say, " Remember, your slogan to care for animals? Hello??? So, first of all, dogs and cats aren't the only animals around. If you want to care for all animals, wouldn't it be a good idea not to eat them in the first place? " And they go, " Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. By the way you coming to our charity party? Here's the menu, last year we had this delicious chicken, they're serving it again this year! Remember to tell your friends! " Somebody...help us! Sorry, I kinda digressed! But I just had to release that...people here would think I'm preaching a new religion if I said that to them... *sighs* Lonely vegan in HK, Honor >EBbrewpunx >vegan-network >vegan-network >RE: [100% veg*n ] Leather etc >Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:54:19 -0500 > >well, we can all be asses together > > >hope you don't get the impression i am coming down on anyone, er saying > " you should do this, er shouldn't do this, i am the high almighty blah blah >blah.. " >cuz, screw that....we are all doing the best we can, and doin' wot we think >be right...and, we can all learn from one another...(just don't pick up my >spelling habits!!) >i was just remarking, even tho i've been veggie..ummm *thinks*..crap..13 >years now..and vegan..ummm..6? 7? 8 years? now, i still haven't gotten rid >of my leather jacket, ciuz, well, i bloody well can't afford to get a vegan >alternative, which cost in the range of $150..will have to soon tho, since, >the old one dead skin one is on its last tatters...besides, i feel bad >wearin it >and, i still ave my original pair of DM's (from 82 er 83), tho i never wear >em anymore >*shakes feet with vegan DM's gleefully* >we all be trying....and we all can help one another..right right right??? >fraggle > > > " charlie_elise " <charlie_elise wrote: > > >Okay-so I haven't been vegan very long. I am phasing out all my non- > >vegan stuff. I'm not throwing stuff away just to create new waste and > >buy new stuff (can't afford it anyway!) I won't buy another pair of > >leather shoes but I'm not getting rid of my DMs until they fall > >apart!! I painted some silk scarves years ago and although I don't > >wear them very often, I won't throw them away either. I have to admit > >since becoming vegan I wear much less makeup-I feel I'm growing out > >of it, but again I'm not throwing anything away until it's all used > >up. Then I shall buy new products which shall be carefully researched > >and so on. Does that make me an ass too? > >I don't think there are any rights or wrongs-it's just the way I'm > >doing it. > > > >~xCx~ > > > > > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: >vegan-network-digest > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 ><< *sighs* Lonely vegan in HK, > Honor >> >no reason to be lonely..ya got us!!!! Awwwwwwww....how sweet! thank you! Honor _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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