Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 > > Veganism is very definately part of my religion. I'm Wiccan, and when I > > initiated I made a vow to eat no animal product ever again. I've since > > re-affirmed that vow each year. Wiccans believe that it is our > > responsibility to think for ourselves, and to " Harm None " , not to > > interfere with the rightsof others, and many Wiccans interpret the " Harm > > None " belief in terms of vegetarianism and veganism. I found this post very interesting Dharja- I'm not quite sure what the distinction between paganism & wican is, but my own pathway is taking me towards something close to anarcho-pagan taoist (or something!). Anyway, my understanding of paganism is that it's about reconnecting with and honouring nature's patterns. The following is an exploration of what this might mean from a permacultural/holistic perspective, and what the implications might be ethically regarding veganism/animal rights... It's extracted from an offlist discussion I'm having with somebody else who s here (vegan network), and is more an 'airing of ideas' than anything 'laid down in stone', and an attempt at articulating some of the thoughts that have been running around in my head lately, so I'd welcome any comments or feedback... " There is a need for a unification of strands or a holistic approach to issues of environmentalism, respect for non human species and human rights. The permaculture ethics of Earthcare, Peoplecare & Fairshares comes closest to a synthesis in my view, although there is of course much debate as to what these all actually mean, and it's healthy that they are open to interpretation. Of course the industrialisation of animal farming (and agriculture in general) is an abomination, and I certainly wouldn't be trying to justify that (and nor would Bill Mollison, author of the 'Permaculture Designer's Manual'), but I don't think that embracing the 'Earthcare' ethic necessarily excludes animals from designed permacultural systems, being that permaculture systems are modelled on observation and replication of natural patterns... The usual Animal Rights arguement seems to run that by eating/using animals we (by 'we' I mean peoplekind in general) are assuming that we are 'superior' to other animals and thus have the 'right' to use them as we see fit, and that this is both arrogance and intrinsically ethically wrong. Perhaps so. But by accepting that we are a part of the earth and it's natural systems, and not apart from it, we need to realise that we are but players within a constant cycle of birth, life, growth, death, and decay... matter and energy is constantly changing state and form... There is no 'superior' or 'inferior', everything has it's part to play and is essential in the order of things... The fox that eats the rabbit does not consider itself 'superior' to that rabbit, just as the rabbit does not consider itself 'superior' to the grass that it grazes. When the fox or rabbit dies or shits, do the worms, bacteria and insects which break down those bodily 'wastes' into soil, humus and nutrients consider themselves 'superior' to the fox? Does the plant which absorbs those nutrients consider itself 'superior' before it too is devoured by the next generation of rabbits??? Just as the idea of 'superiority' is a very human, flawed and narrow construct, so to is the notion that we can stand outside of such cycles, however hard we may try... Our assumption that we are at the 'top' of a 'food chain' (whether vegan or omnivorous), rather than an integral part of a holistic and interconnected web has led us to what can only be described as pathological cultural behaviours like flushing our shit out to sea and burning our dead rather than letting them be returned to the earth for re-absorption. As a (modern) species we truly do only take from the Gaian bank account and never put anything back (same analogy holds for our usage of fossil fuels rather than renewables, and resource usage in general). To me this issue of re-entering the ecosystem, reconnecting with gaia and it's cycles is more crucial than than the vegan/omnivore dichotomy. As I've stated elsewhere, many cultures and peoples have used and coexisted with animals in ways that are sustainable and respectful, and it does seem a little incongruous for somebody like Ben Law, who is truly connected to and supports himself from the woodland he manages, or indeed the pastoral Masai of East africa, to be described as 'animal exploiters' by vegans primarily living on a diet based around over packaged, imported, resource guzzling soya products... I suspect that at the end of the day there is no 'Truth', but many many versions of the truth, and that each of us will find our own once we at least begin the processes of overcoming our alienation and reconnecting, in both a physical and spiritual/ethical sense " Some background; Article I've written on permaculture & veganism http://pages.unisonfree.net/gburnett/essay/veganperm.htm Article I've written on permaculture & food production for 'The Raven' Anarchist quarterly http://pages.unisonfree.net/gburnett/raven/Ravenpc.htm Permaculture for beginners- a graphic guide http://pages.unisonfree.net/gburnett/Perma/ Cheers for now, Graham Burnett www.landandliberty.co.uk Now available- 'Permaculture A Beginner's Guide' also tee shirts- 'Permaculture Manadala' & 'Land Is Liberty- Plant A Seed Today...'Graham Burnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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