Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 no, you are not obsessive at all. it is a strange thing but i would rather go hungry or eat dry bread and water. >Phew! Makes me feel better that I'm not the only one who dislikes the >thought of my pots being used for meat. Yippee-I'm not an obsessive weirdo >after all!!! oh. BTW, there may be a problem with many commercially produced breads in that the greasing agents used by factories often contain animal products, the fats that use to make the bread not stick to tins, for the food to roll along the processing chain. usually caveat, they use whatever is cheapest. there is one other issue they folks ought to remember buying supermaket food and that is manufacturers do not have to put the complete ingredients on the package. i think that it is anything less than 2 percent that is not obligatory. of course, you could have 3 items of less than 2 percent which would add up to 6 percent ... the issue of minor items came up with brands defending their " trade secrets " rights not to disclose everything in their products. i am not saying that every product has 1.5 per cent slivers of pork stuck in it but it is something to remember. it is a great reminder that you are doing much more my shopping at little shops that know their stock and buying from small producers who make things by hand in a simple natural process; where you can still call up the actual person that made your grub. hey, any obsessive weirdo macintosh vegans out there? i found a bunch of funny little veggie custom icons for your files and folders john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 There should definetly be a law to make all ingredients show, and all ingredients it comes in contact with and could possibly be contiminated by. They do it for nuts because of allergies. vegan-network, demo <jallan@f...> wrote: > no, you are not obsessive at all. > > it is a strange thing but i would rather go hungry or eat dry bread and > water. > > >Phew! Makes me feel better that I'm not the only one who dislikes the > >thought of my pots being used for meat. Yippee-I'm not an obsessive weirdo > >after all!!! > > oh. BTW, there may be a problem with many commercially produced breads in > that the greasing agents used by factories often contain animal products, > the fats that use to make the bread not stick to tins, for the food to > roll along the processing chain. usually caveat, they use whatever is > cheapest. > > there is one other issue they folks ought to remember buying supermaket > food and that is manufacturers do not have to put the complete > ingredients on the package. i think that it is anything less than 2 > percent that is not obligatory. of course, you could have 3 items of less > than 2 percent which would add up to 6 percent ... > > the issue of minor items came up with brands defending their " trade > secrets " rights not to disclose everything in their products. > > i am not saying that every product has 1.5 per cent slivers of pork stuck > in it but it is something to remember. > > it is a great reminder that you are doing much more my shopping at little > shops that know their stock and buying from small producers who make > things by hand in a simple natural process; where you can still call up > the actual person that made your grub. > > > hey, any obsessive weirdo macintosh vegans out there? > > i found a bunch of funny little veggie custom icons for your files and > folders > > john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 __ >oh. BTW, there may be a problem with many commercially produced breads in >that the greasing agents used by factories often contain animal products, >it is a great reminder that you are doing much more my shopping at little >shops that know their stock and buying from small producers who make >things by hand in a simple natural process; Just as well I prefer to make my own bread then! Whenever it's possible I try to buy from the smaller shops too. I have also stopped buying convenience foods. Most of the ingredients seem to be additives/preservatives/hydrogenated oils and all that crap. I've discovered that cooking fresh ingedients from scratch doesn't take up much time at all [blenders are a wonderful invention!] and then at least you know exactly what you are eating. I know the reason some people won't buy organic is because of the price. I have found that since I mainly buy fresh food, the weekly shopping bill isn't as much as when I used to buy mainly processed foods. I'm not exactly rolling in it myself, but a few extra pence is worth it if you don't want to eat a mouthful of chemicals or don't want to encourage farmers to ruin the environment we live in. Plus organic food tastes nicer. Dee _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2002 Report Share Posted January 16, 2002 vegan-network, demo <jallan@f...> wrote: > i am not saying that every product has 1.5 per cent slivers of > pork stuck > in it but it is something to remember. merkin entomologist friend told me that a certain %age of all grain is " buggy " . what annoyed her most was that there's a government permitted bugs-per-tonne limit, yet some farmers were able to grow grain that was practically bug-free. what happened was that the very- buggy grain was diluted with the bug-less stuff til it averaged out at bang on the government permitted max. trying to work out why some farmers were able to get it right obviously isn't in anyones interest ;-jey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 > and beware of red40 everyone on this list from the US. apparently > red40 covers several different types of red colouring, one of which is > a small gray bug that, if pregnant, when crushed will turn into a fine > looking red powder... The VRG says this isn't so -- http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/faqingredients.htm#red " What is FD & C Red #40 and is it vegan? FD & C Red #40 is 99% coal tar derivatives. We don't know of any animal products in it. For years a rumor has claimed that it is made of cochineal or carmine, but that is not true. " However, you might want to avoid it anyway -- http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~kkaos/add.html " Allura Red AC, also called FD & C Red No. 40. Orange-red colouring used in sweets, drinks and condiments, medications and cosmetics, synthetic. Introduced in the early eighties to replace amaranth which was considered not safe due to conflicting test results. Allura red has also been connected with cancer in mice. Banned in Denmark, Belgium, France, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Austria and Norway 48, 65, 96 " - Cheryl ..................................... http://www.pickleflick.com/bean http://www.livejournal.com/~ratties AIM: triceratops bean " I'm melting! Melting! Oh, what a world! What a world! Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 > wot the heck is wrong with amaranth?? > its a grain fer bacchus sake..wot is wrong with it > *runs to eat bowl of amaranth cereal before he finds out he can't eat it* I don't think there's anything wrong with the grain, only the synthetic, coal tar derived version (which goes by the same name in some places): " Amaranth, purple colouring derived from the small herbaceous plant of the same name. For commercial purposes is a synthetic colourant derived from coal tar, which can provoke asthma, eczema and hyperactivity; it caused birth defects and foetal deaths in some animal tests, possibly also cancer; banned in the USA in 1976, Russia, Austria and Norway and other countries. 40, 48, 96 " - Cheryl ..................................... http://www.pickleflick.com/bean http://www.livejournal.com/~ratties AIM: triceratops bean " I'm melting! Melting! Oh, what a world! What a world! Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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