Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 In a message dated 1/19/02 10:45:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, Snowbow writes: << Whether or not you, Chris or Anton LeVay like it, it is a fact that this behaviour was referred to as " satanic " many centuries before Anton LeVay adopted the term for his own political/religious outfit! >> everything was satanic tho!!! dancing around a maypole was satanic, women working was satanic.. depends on the person spouting the talk chevron claims to be environmentally responsible, do you believe them??? fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 Hi Fraggle > little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment progressed) > who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as satanistic as my > left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd have to > beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan) > its all a matter of perspective Whether or not you, Chris or Anton LeVay like it, it is a fact that this behaviour was referred to as " satanic " many centuries before Anton LeVay adopted the term for his own political/religious outfit! BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 Hi Fraggle Just a couple of points here.... > that more of a duelaist credo, which was considered herisy for a long time > satan was lucifer, who rebelled against god, and was cast out, or will be > cast out or..depends on how you read the bible The original term " Satan " , as used in the OT is more of a job title than a name - a bit like a defense lawyer when God is prosecuting, if you see what I mean. To use a terrible pun, it was simply a character who played " Devil's advocate " ! There is no consideration in the OT of " Satan " as a single individual. > the duelist bit began in persia with zorasterism, and spread.. I know little about Zarathustrianism, but the one talk I've been to about it, the person stated that they had many gods - not just two. > the cathars believed there was a good god(who was invisible, and aloof), and > an evil go\d, satan, known as rex mundi, king of the world..he created the > world and everything material, the spirit is pure and belongs to god...and > fer theire troubles, the cathars were slaughtered by the thousands in the > alibgenisis crusade Rex Mundi isn't really comparable with the Christian Satan - he and the other God are absolutely equal - one in charge of the spirit, one in charge of the physical. It's a very different relationship to that of the Christian God / Satan. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 Fraggle & Chris There is one question still unanswered - what do Satanists believe/practice. D o you know. Jo Ah yes, but .... -- " All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. " - Arthur Schopenhauer - <EBbrewpunx Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:12 PM Re: Re: Doctor Dogmeat muzzled by pet lovers > In a message dated 1/19/02 2:49:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Heartwork writes: > > << As far as my understanding goes - the Christian God is split in two - good > and evil, and the evil bit is supposed to be Satan (whereas in Paganism Gods > are complete, and a mixture of good and evil). I am also aware that Satan > was around before the New Testament, so is it this character that is called > upon - and what are his characteristics. >> > > not really > that more of a duelaist credo, which was considered herisy for a long time > satan was lucifer, who rebelled against god, and was cast out, or will be > cast out or..depends on how you read the bible > the duelist bit began in persia with zorasterism, and spread.. > the cathars believed there was a good god(who was invisible, and aloof), and > an evil go\d, satan, known as rex mundi, king of the world..he created the > world and everything material, the spirit is pure and belongs to god...and > fer theire troubles, the cathars were slaughtered by the thousands in the > alibgenisis crusade > see wot you started chris!! > ahahha > oh crap..ok, really going to shave and shower now > bye > cheers > adios > fraggle > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 Fraggle > yeah, and those who follow " islam " fly planes into buildings > are they the true muslims? i think not....... Quite - but what do Satanists do? I'm not accusing them of anything, just wondering what they do. > > little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment progressed) > who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as satanistic as my > left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd have to > beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan) > its all a matter of perspective > > fraggle > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 sorry the message was not directed to me but could you please expand as i work in a pharmacy and have been recommending echinacea as an alternative to the usual nasty medicines. Shelloid - xxx_suicidal_vegan_xxx Saturday, January 19, 2002 9:18 AM Re: Doctor Dogmeat muzzled by pet lovers > It rained here yesterday, and froze solid overnight - couldn't get in the> car door this morning. Elderflower and Lemon tea, and Echinacea is very> good for helping you get over colds.Jo, did you hear about that study last year that linked Echinacea to strokes in women?? Just FYI...Chris XTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment progressed) > who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as satanistic as my > left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd have to > beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan) > its all a matter of perspective > fraggle well,actually...anyone who believes in the xian god is as Satanic as the sacrificial type. True Satanism observes No Gods,No Masters. You are your own god. (Anti)Chris(t) X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 you've been listening to the day glo abortions tooo much chris i am my own god!!! teehee no matter how you slice it, satan is a christian construct tho...he might be a polyglot from other traditions and wot not, but, satan was tossed in as god's adversary and basically became the boogeyman of christianity boi, have we gotten off topic i blame satan fraggle " xxx_suicidal_vegan_xxx " <XBobaFettX wrote: >, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: >> little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment >progressed) >> who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as >satanistic as my >> left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd >have to >> beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan) >> its all a matter of perspective >> fraggle > >well,actually...anyone who believes in the xian god is as Satanic as >the sacrificial type. True Satanism observes No Gods,No Masters. You >are your own god. > >(Anti)Chris(t) X > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 In a message dated 1/21/02 11:53:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, Heartwork writes: << The thing I find strange is that a group of people would give their religion a name that most people would associate with evil >> why not lots of folks take slurs and things meant to ridicule them and use them with pride.. yankees queer punks its a sort of empowerment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 Chris > well,actually...anyone who believes in the xian god is as Satanic as > the sacrificial type. True Satanism observes No Gods,No Masters. You > are your own god. In that case, why do they call them selves Satanists, and associate an idea with themselves? Jo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 Fraggle > no matter how you slice it, satan is a christian construct tho...he might be a polyglot from other traditions and wot not, but, satan was tossed in as god's adversary and basically became the boogeyman of christianity The thing I find strange is that a group of people would give their religion a name that most people would associate with evil. Jo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > you've been listening to the day glo abortions tooo much chris there's a band I havent rocked out in forever..I was hoping you'd catch my Amebix reference in my last post,guess not..oh well. Hail Seitan! Chris X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 > The thing I find strange is that a group of people would give their religion > a name that most people would associate with evil. > > Jo another misconception..satanism is not a religion..a philosophy,most of which can be reshaped into personal tastes. Chris X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 sorry haven't heard amebix in years..and was never into crust core hahahahahahah fraggle In a message dated 1/21/02 11:41:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, XBobaFettX writes: << there's a band I havent rocked out in forever..I was hoping you'd catch my Amebix reference in my last post,guess not..oh well. Hail Seitan! Chris X >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2002 Report Share Posted August 12, 2002 Hi Ian > > lots of folks take slurs and things meant to ridicule them and use them with > " Christian " Christian simply derives from the Greek word for oil. Not sure that it was ever used as a slur! BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release 02/08/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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