not vegan but fregan!!

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I know people who only eat what is known as 'skipped meat'. at

a (pretty fantastic) party I went to someone brought toffees and

dairy milk chocolate to what was an all-vegan gethering and he

says 'they aren't vegan but they're fregan!!' Which I get the

principal of and indeed, in theory I agree with but the thought of

eating the sweets made me feel really quite ill, being at this stage

in my veganism.

Great idea, shame it makes me want to throw.

Charlie xxx

 

ps-the sperm subject-all my girly friends find it really interesting

too..not a conversation piece I'd advise for a first date/meeting

though!!

[Guest guest]

> Mon, 11 Feb 2002 03:32:07 -0800

> " Priscilla Pelkey " <spiggy

>Re: not vegan but fregan!!

 

>i think the idea of fregan defeats the purpose of being vegan. its all

>economics, supply and demand. if the demand goes down, because of people

>refusing to eat meat, for a while there will be animals that die in vain,

>but eventually as enough people go vegetarian (or vegan) theyll get the

>hint and raise fewer animals. however, if theres always a fregan around

>to consume the meat that would be thrown out, the demand will never go

>down.

 

This arguement doesn't really hold. Yes, supply in the meat industry is

affected largely by demand for meat, but under capitalism it is " effective "

demand that matters. If I have no money in my pocket, no meat producer is going

to care about what I want/demand. My demand has no " effect " .

 

No supermarket is ever going to do a stocktake of a skip, because they have no

interest in finding out what people would consume for free. Take Pret A Manger,

the sandwich chain, who apparently give their leftovers to homeless people. If

all these people turned out to be vegan, do you really think Pret would make any

fewer 'all day breakfast' sarnies and make more houmous ones instead? No, they

base their decisions on what the paying sandwich eater wants. (Of course any

pure as the driven snow homeless vegan wouldn't touch Pret because of McD's

involvement, would they? Of course they would. To be so principled is a

privilege most people can't afford.)

 

>i have some friends who call themselves fregans and they use it

>as an excuse to eat wahtever they want and give in to their cravings

>for flesh and still try to pretend theyre doing soemthing good. my opinion

>of this fregan crap isnt very high.

>spiggy

 

Well, I guess if they're going to " give in " to their flesh cravings, better this

way than a host of others.

 

Jane

 

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Priscilla Pelkey