Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Graham wrote: > >but had no problem with eating animal products that would otherwise > >be disposed of as 'waste', eg, would eat ham sandwiches at the end of > >a party that would otherwise be chucked in the bin, eat meat fom > >supermarket skips that would otherwise go for landfill, drink out of > >date milk that would otherwise be chucked, etc. > >In a way, is that not a 'better' approach than seeing such products > >end up as landfill? I suppose it is a 'better' approach...but I've personally gotten to the point where even though I can find a logical reason to finish off non-vegan products, like your reasoning, Graham, the thought of ingesting them, especially meat, gives me the shivers...and, yes, I'm sure I'd puke everything up in a second. I tend to complain to others at the party, " See, you bought so much and you can't even finish the food! It's such a waste! " And a lot of Chinese believe in karma (and 90% of my friends here in HK are Chinese) so I just say, " All this food you were grateful enough to have acquired... and the animals were slaughtered for nothing. You better finish this off... " And it's understood that if they don't eat the food, they may encounter some severe financial difficulty in their life, or next life, that'd make three meals a day impossible. Voila, food is cleared! But I guess this isn't a viable option for you lot! Dee wrote: > So, the remaining 4 were to be made into soup. Farmer left the task of > preparing them to my colleagues because he was too busy to do it himself. > But everyone kept putting it off. I couldn't stand the thought of them being > wasted, so I volunteered to pluck them if I could wear gloves and someone > else boiled them. [everyone was extemely shocked at me!] I'm shocked, too! Although I see what you're saying...as far as adhering to veganism goes, what you did, I personally think, was fine. I would have done the same...but probably cry as I plucked them. >What really annoyed me was that one of my colleagues went out to the supermarket and > bought a chicken! I asked why she had bought that one when there were > already some here. She said it was because she didn't 'know' the one from > the supermarket! I wondered what the hell the difference was! For all she > knew the one covered in cellophane could once have had as much character and > personality as the ones we 'knew'. Usually, people of this sort exhibit the kind of 'compassion,' help me with a better word, that can get them to happily turn to veganism - they 'think' they 'are trying' to help...they just need to be pushed into the right direction. > It's funny that most of them wouldn't eat the 'freshly minced lamb' either. > Again, I think a lot more people would give up meat if they were to see the > animal they are going to eat before it is killed. That's very true for some people...UNLESS these people get their meat directly from wet markets where whole pigs lay on the floor...live chickens are selected and killed on the spot. As you may have guessed, that's what it's like here - people have become desentisized. So they're cool with eating the same chicken that they met when he/she was still alive. > >BTW, I think a better answer would be to ensure that ALL the food at > >such a gathering is suitable for vegans, by and large everybody can > >eat vegan food, so it's the lowest common denominator. An omnivorous > >friend of mine always cooks vegan for gatherings because he knows > >EVERYONE can eat it and there's no fuss about laying on seperate food > >for vegans/veggies/omni's etc- less hassle all round. I don't tend to ask for such an arrangement, but my friends insist that the meal be vegan when I'm around....awwwww....they are really sweet! And at banquets, my relatives make very sure that I have a few vegan dishes to myself, so that no meat-stained chopsticks touch my food. I'm lucky that I don't make the effort to make such requests... Don't mean to brag on and on about how " lucky " I am to be vegan in this region (ack, might as well! teeheehee), but vegetarians and vegans (they can't tell the difference, actually) can be rather revered. Some tend to see our choice to abstain from animal products as somewhat sacrificial (but I go, " No, I honestly don't find caracasses tempting " ) and relate it to Buddhism... I don't bother with explaining how veganism is just plain common sense, coz they really don't listen... Honor > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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