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vegan-network, Ben <ben@s...> wrote:

> I'm about to sign off I think so I'll take one last opportunity to

make a

> posting.

Have you signed off? I've replied anyway

 

> Avocados are cool, shame they have to come from so far away,

usually by air.

> Quite a few come from Israel and I am trying to boycott Israeli

products.

 

I only said they were my favourite dish, I don't eat them all the

time though, and probably will even less knowing that. They are more

needed in Israel than here.

 

> and coffee fall under the same criticism - and I would agree

(while still

> eating chocolate).

 

I agree with everything you said about smoking, but even though

rollups aren't ethical they are moreso than marlboros for example,

Phillip Morris ( Marlboro company) chucks native africans off their

homelands in Africa to grow tobacco!

I read a worrying report that nicotine is more addictive than

heroin. I'm starting to believe that, today I gave my pouch to a

tramp (cos I'm giving up again) and am already feeling the symptoms

Mainstream chocolate is verry unethical cos the workers at the

bottom of the industrial process in Columbia get paid next to

nothing for extremely long hours work. Plamil is one vegan

chocolate make that is organic, ie probably more ethical.

>

> Anyhow, rant over ;-)

>

> You should be able to find other vegans in kent. There is an

active sab

> group in that part of the world (all vegan (mostly)) and local

contacts in

> the vegan. I am always surprised by hearing about how isolated

some vegans

> feel. There are only 250,000 plus adult vegans in the country

which is a

> fairly small percentage but my social circles are predominately

vegan. I've

> been lucky enough to have lived in vegan households, resource

centers,

> communities for the last 12 years so I don't realise how difficult

it can

> be for other vegans.

I have tried to contact other vegans in the area, maybe haven't

tried hard enough. But am getting to know the people in a local food

shop.

 

> recently also), I have at times had a personal rule about only

sleeping

> with vegans.

 

Veganism has really fucked up my social and sex life. I don't care

though much at the moment (probably tied up with the fact that I

smoke), I spend a lot of time with people I don't like at the moment

because people I don't like are more likely to ask me challenging

questions about veganism, and I have no qualms about telling them

exactly what I think about the meat industry and the whole idea of

being a human carnivore.

I wouldn't mind some real friendships though!

I couldn't have a close friendship or relationship with anyone who

wasn't vegan.

 

> That is after all

> why meat eaters are so upset by vegans - we challenge them even if

we say

> nothing.

 

I've noticed that as well recently. (hehe)

 

Our choices indicate a judgement against them and so they turn to

> the offensive in defence of their way of life.

>

> any way, bed now.. bye all

>

> Ben

>

> P.S. yeah yeah I know I've done this already but...

http://swiops.tincan.co.uk/

> go there. try it out. comments and suggests welcome (but not

spelling

> corrections)

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