Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 Hi friends! I am currently in a pretty heated debate in another list and I ask for you advice. How do you respond when omnivores come at you can say, " blah...blah...blah... you eat fruit and vegetables and they are living being sand you have no problem eating them, and that's being hypocritical... blah, blah, blah " . I tried to explain to them about the consciousness and nervous system of plants can not be compared to that of an animal, but they always have some kind of rebuttal about how wrong I am. Some of you are on that other list with me so you know what's going on. Some of them have been very vicious in their comments, which I know is a typical trait of meat eaters, so I'm not surprised with that. But what do you tell them? Peace, -KosmicTyger " I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul... " (from " Invictus " by William Ernest Henley) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 I look at it this way: I couldn't look a cow, or any other animal in the eyes and then kill it just to satisfy my internal organs; but I have no problem about shredding, slicing, scraping, chopping, uprooting, snapping, biting, crunching, shoving into a blender, cooking, burning, and above all eating an aubergine, or any other manner of fruit, vegetable, pulse, seed, nut or bean. Thats just me, call me a tyrant if you want, but I'm not going to ignore the atrocities of the process of cooking. Long live the plant murderers! Which list is that? Jules vegan-network, " KosmicTyger " <KosmicTyger@c...> wrote: > Hi friends! > I am currently in a pretty heated debate in another list and I ask for you advice. > How do you respond when omnivores come at you can say, " blah...blah...blah... you eat fruit and vegetables and they are living being sand you have no problem eating them, and that's being hypocritical... blah, blah, blah " . > I tried to explain to them about the consciousness and nervous system of plants can not be compared to that of an animal, but they always have some kind of rebuttal about how wrong I am. Some of you are on that other list with me so you know what's going on. > Some of them have been very vicious in their comments, which I know is a typical trait of meat eaters, so I'm not surprised with that. But what do you tell them? > > Peace, > -KosmicTyger > > " I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul... " > (from " Invictus " by William Ernest Henley) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 Thanks K and Jules for your input. The list called " Green Witches " . I'm just going to leave it alone though. I'm not going to have a flame war with strangers over the internet because of this. I think the best thing I can do is just ignore those people trying to make trouble because some people just like to stir the pot. I really like what both of you said though and now I know what to say next time. Thanks again! Peace, -KosmicTyger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 on 12/3/02 12:34 am, vegan-network at vegan-network wrote: > " blah...blah...blah... you eat fruit and vegetables etc to be honest friend. my the time it reaches that point it has already gone to far and you had better just walk away and find someone that does want to know. otherwise you are just wasting you energy banging heads together. I sometimes do try just coming in at a completely different angle, like a one liner on the environmental sustainability issue. just agree with them, offer no resistance, keep away from the animal suffering angle and then deliver a single line about a primarily veg*n diet being the only diet that is ecologically sustainable. basically they dont want to know. all the world is not going to become vegetarian. argument is not going to get them there. being an example of cool or nice might impress them, so best just not take their flame bate. rather than evangelise, just be cool or nice and let it be a surprise when they discover you don¹t eat meat. .... and if that does not work you can always go for the gross out factor and remind them that meat is basically half way between grass and shit and that it contains 15% or more urea. " ... have a nice day with your blood, shit and piss burgers. " [ even then, if drunk enough, they will still come back with " yeah, we love them " . ] my apologies to those of a more delicate or evolved nature. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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