Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 Well, I don't know if this WILL help, but my reply to those absurdities is to say that by choosing to eat plant-based foods I am making a conscious effort to reduce the negative effects of my existence. Just because we may not be able to live a genuinely, completely cruelty-free (and all that this term implies) lifestyle does not mean that we should say, " O, well, then...I'll just do what I want to do. Who cares? " It's about diminishing one's negative impact. xxk@xx KosmicTyger [KosmicTyger] 11 March 2002 22:05 vegan-network [100% veg*n ] in need of some wisdom... Hi friends! I am currently in a pretty heated debate in another list and I ask for you advice. How do you respond when omnivores come at you can say, " blah...blah...blah... you eat fruit and vegetables and they are living being sand you have no problem eating them, and that's being hypocritical... blah, blah, blah " . I tried to explain to them about the consciousness and nervous system of plants can not be compared to that of an animal, but they always have some kind of rebuttal about how wrong I am. Some of you are on that other list with me so you know what's going on. Some of them have been very vicious in their comments, which I know is a typical trait of meat eaters, so I'm not surprised with that. But what do you tell them? Peace, -KosmicTyger " I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul... " (from " Invictus " by William Ernest Henley) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 to put it bluntly..they don't want an answer to this probably..they want an argument..they are looking for a way out because, to put it simply, its GUILT... " i feel bad inside, and i know this is wrong, so i'll weasel my way out of it by talking in circles " there is no real answer to this question...sure, all life is connected and such but animal husbandry is destroying the world... most of the grain produced in this country(US) goes not feed people, but animals you can not compare an apple and a chicken, you just can't..its silly... its called making as small a footprint as possible and eating further down on the food train and, when they start up with the " i like meat, it tastes good " tell em so does anti-freeze and arsenic...... cheers fraggle " KosmicTyger " <KosmicTyger wrote: >Hi friends! >I am currently in a pretty heated debate in another list and I ask for you advice. >How do you respond when omnivores come at you can say, " blah...blah...blah... you eat fruit and vegetables and they are living being sand you have no problem eating them, and that's being hypocritical... blah, blah, blah " . >I tried to explain to them about the consciousness and nervous system of plants can not be compared to that of an animal, but they always have some kind of rebuttal about how wrong I am. Some of you are on that other list with me so you know what's going on. >Some of them have been very vicious in their comments, which I know is a typical trait of meat eaters, so I'm not surprised with that. But what do you tell them? > >Peace, >-KosmicTyger > > " I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul... " >(from " Invictus " by William Ernest Henley) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 KosmicTyger wrote: > > I tried to explain to them about the consciousness and nervous system of plants can not be compared to that of an animal, but they always have some kind of rebuttal about how wrong I am. Some of you are on that other list with me so you know what's going on. We know animals suffer because they're basically the same as us. They scream and writhe, for example. Plants don't similarly react. " You're talking rubbish and you know you are " may well be the most appropriate rebuttal to their rebuttal. The knockout blow is that vegans kill fewer plants than meat-eaters, because factory farmed animals need many (10-40) times as much plant protein as they provide in animal protein. > Some of them have been very vicious in their comments, which I know is a typical trait of meat eaters, so I'm not surprised with that. But what do you tell them? > > Peace, > -KosmicTyger > > " I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul... " > (from " Invictus " by William Ernest Henley) > Personally, I find it hard not to think of the Oklahoma bomber when I hear that. Pity - it's probably a good poem . -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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