Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 I guess you're talking about Ecover, which seems to have replaced Down To Earth as the environmental brand choice in supermarkets. There is another Ecover washing up liquid which does not include milk but that one seems only to be available in health food stores and the like. The amount of milk in it though is probably minuscule, it certainly isn't a case of washing up in milk, and it's probably a lot less sickening that the chemicals you would find in other products. If you have to choose from Sainsbury's self then it's probably the best one to go for. Otherwise why not try looking online for places that sell Bio-D or Ecover products? I think Natural Collection sell Bio-D in 5 litre bottles so you can just buy it once and it will last a good few months (keep existing bottle to top up though, you don't want to keep something that size by your sink!) Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 weird the ecover i purchase here in the colonies doesn't have any milk in it.... maybe we are just dumping it on you brits...we are evil that way you know... fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 >weird Probably, just looked at http://www.ecover.com/ and read what they had to say on their products page: >ECOVER washing-up liquid (1 L, 500 ml) >The washing-up liquid cleans and degreases excellently, without producing >much foam. Thanks to the addition of herb extracts (calendula) and whey, >it is particularly kind and gentle to hands. > >Whey is a by-product of cheese production. It is hardly used at all in >washing agents in our society, but in the Far East it is widely used for >cosmetic purposes, mainly during ceremonies. Whey softens the skin and >prevents it from drying out. These remarkable qualities are the result of >a combination of milk fats, proteins, and lactic acid. Due to its fat >spreading properties, whey also has a cleaning action. Whey is broken down >quickly and completely and in low concentrations it therefore has no >negative effect on the environment. > >In contrast with most other products, the ECOVER washing-up liquid >contains a vegetable detergent based on coconut oil. No mention at all of the milk-less Lemon & Aloe Vera version . Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 Honesty sell Bio-D 5l bottles too. >Mavreela <nec.lists >vegan-network >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] washing up milk >Sat, 25 May 2002 07:36:31 +0100 > >I guess you're talking about Ecover, which seems to have replaced Down To >Earth as the environmental brand choice in supermarkets. There is another >Ecover washing up liquid which does not include milk but that one seems >only to be available in health food stores and the like. > >The amount of milk in it though is probably minuscule, it certainly isn't a >case of washing up in milk, and it's probably a lot less sickening that the >chemicals you would find in other products. If you have to choose from >Sainsbury's self then it's probably the best one to go for. Otherwise why >not try looking online for places that sell Bio-D or Ecover products? I >think Natural Collection sell Bio-D in 5 litre bottles so you can just buy >it once and it will last a good few months (keep existing bottle to top up >though, you don't want to keep something that size by your sink!) > >Michael > > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: >vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 Honesty Cosmetics sell Bio-D 5l bottles too - free delivery on orders over £40 I think. >Mavreela <nec.lists >vegan-network >vegan-network >Re: [100% veg*n ] washing up milk >Sat, 25 May 2002 07:36:31 +0100 > >I guess you're talking about Ecover, which seems to have replaced Down To >Earth as the environmental brand choice in supermarkets. There is another >Ecover washing up liquid which does not include milk but that one seems >only to be available in health food stores and the like. > >The amount of milk in it though is probably minuscule, it certainly isn't a >case of washing up in milk, and it's probably a lot less sickening that the >chemicals you would find in other products. If you have to choose from >Sainsbury's self then it's probably the best one to go for. Otherwise why >not try looking online for places that sell Bio-D or Ecover products? I >think Natural Collection sell Bio-D in 5 litre bottles so you can just buy >it once and it will last a good few months (keep existing bottle to top up >though, you don't want to keep something that size by your sink!) > >Michael > > > > >To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: >vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 Picking up on earlier washing up liquid rant. Ecover Marigold washing up liquid is not vegan as it contains whey. All other products are vegan. I accused Ecover of misleading vegans as the legend on the front of the new pack says " based on plant and mineral ingredients harnessing the power of nature " . I read this and bought some thinking it was vegan, as have other vegans. First reply from Ecover assured me they were not putting profit before ethics and justified whey inclusion in that it allowed people with problem skin to use an eco washing up liquid. Fair point but did not deal with misleading pack issue. 2nd Reply received " Hi Rosanne,thank you for coming back to us with your concern. I have checked your questions with our product manager and our laboratory. Our Product Manager assures me that the packaging and the texts on the packaging are totally conform the standard legislation. Furthermore, our laboratory confirmed that only 0.5% of the ingredients of the Washing Up Liquid Camomille is milk whey.So therefore,99.5% of the Washing up liquid Camomille is in fact 'based on plant and mineral ingredients harnessing the power of nature'. And we would also like to inform you that we are still researching on how to replace the milk whey. Our lab has now found a plant based ingredient that gives the same features as the milk whey, ie. is softer to the hands for people who have skin problems. However, we are still in a testing period and we are hoping that we will be able to launch the innovated Washing Up Liquid Camomille and Marigold in January 2003,without milk whey. So in the mean time, we suggest that you use the Washing Up Liquid with Lemon and Aloe Vera. And by next year, the two versions will have the vegan logo on the packaging. Kind regards, Mieke Desmadryl, ECOVER Belgium " Not sure trading standards would agree that the new pack does not mislead but since they are working on a plant alternative and they do a lot of good overall by taking eco products mainstream, I will forgive them and not take it to trading standards. More important real baddies to batter. Sainsbury's have new " freefrom " ranges including " free from dairy " . I know this doesn't mean vegan but I still think it's a good sign. The more people who question the dairy and health connection and then drop the dairy the better. A dairy free vegetarian might as well go the extra step and become vegan. Keep stirring!! Keep battering!! Rosanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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