Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies in the fridge or live with someone who ate animals outside the home ,without voicing my opinion . We would row all the time . It would be like trying to live with a rapist or serial adulterer @qis.net [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater I for one could never love a meat eater. It seems to me that what you've done, for purposes of convenience, is to completely deny that your mate has no concern whatever for the lives and rights of other sentient beings and no appreciation for --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 05/06/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I say for a change. - Angie Wright vegan-network Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies in the fridge or live with someone who ate animals outside the home ,without voicing my opinion . We would row all the time . It would be like trying to live with a rapist or serial adulterer Angie @qis.net [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater I for one could never love a meat eater. It seems to me that what you've done, for purposes of convenience, is to completely deny that your mate has no concern whatever for the lives and rights of other sentient beings and no appreciation for --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 05/06/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 but it's ok to beat other people up?? I can understand where you are coming from...but you have to accept that most people are brought up to eat meat...people generally are not brought up to rape or be serial adulterers, that is not to say that environment does not affect people (do you really think that serial adultery is on a par with rape....wwoooaahhh!!). Whatever our feelings about meat eating we cannot deny that it is the norm, across the world, and it is our job to educate and influence people about the consequences Not everyone can choose who they love.....should I destroy my 11 year relationship because my partner still eats dairy/eggs while I gave up about 18 months ago? maybe you shouldn't answer that!! Gareth Pashley Periodicals, Dorset House Library Bournemouth University gpashley " Beneath the pavement, the beach " > > kiwi2000 [sMTP:kiwi2000] > Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:08 PM > vegan-network > Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I say for a change. > - > Angie Wright > vegan-network > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM > RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies in the fridge or live > with someone who ate animals outside the home ,without voicing my > opinion . We would row all the time . It would be like trying to live > with a rapist or serial adulterer > > Angie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 We can go punch for punch and whomever is left standing, wins! We seem to keep coming back to that compassion thing. I guess we're stuck with it. Maybe some day...........If I had my own starship I'd put a bunch of animals and vegans aboard and find another planet for us to live on. - Gareth Pashley 'vegan-network ' Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:19 AM RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater but it's ok to beat other people up?? I can understand where you are coming from...but you have to accept that most people are brought up to eat meat...people generally are not brought up to rape or be serial adulterers, that is not to say that environment does not affect people (do you really think that serial adultery is on a par with rape....wwoooaahhh!!). Whatever our feelings about meat eating we cannot deny that it is the norm, across the world, and it is our job to educate and influence people about the consequences Not everyone can choose who they love.....should I destroy my 11 year relationship because my partner still eats dairy/eggs while I gave up about 18 months ago? maybe you shouldn't answer that!! Gareth Pashley Periodicals, Dorset House Library Bournemouth University gpashley " Beneath the pavement, the beach " > > kiwi2000 [sMTP:kiwi2000] > Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:08 PM > vegan-network > Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I say for a change. > - > Angie Wright > vegan-network > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM > RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies in the fridge or live > with someone who ate animals outside the home ,without voicing my > opinion . We would row all the time . It would be like trying to live > with a rapist or serial adulterer > > Angie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 nice idea ;-) i think it's because I remember that I too used to eat meat...and not long ago I made the leap and became vegan after 14 years as a vegetarian, so I guess we can all change...some people find out information for themselves whilst others need their eyes opening. That's why I thought your original post pretty abrasive...but like I said I can see where you are coming from cheerio gareth kiwi2000 vegan-network 7/10/02 3:40 PM Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater We can go punch for punch and whomever is left standing, wins! We seem to keep coming back to that compassion thing. I guess we're stuck with it. Maybe some day...........If I had my own starship I'd put a bunch of animals and vegans aboard and find another planet for us to live on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 oh...admit it, you like it!!! kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote: >Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I say for a change. > - > Angie Wright > vegan-network > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM > RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies in the fridge or live > with someone who ate animals outside the home ,without voicing my > opinion . We would row all the time . It would be like trying to live > with a rapist or serial adulterer > > Angie > > > @qis.net > [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > I for one could never love a meat eater. It seems to me that what > you've done, for purposes of convenience, is to completely deny > that your mate has no concern whatever for the lives and rights of other > sentient beings and no appreciation for > > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 05/06/2002 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 This is a big part of how I feel, too I ate anything for the first 19 years of my life, until I encoutered the idea of where meat comes from, then it took me a few days to eliminate meat. .... and another 2 or 3 years to go vegan It seems wise, imo, to look more at 'where you're going' than 'where you are this instant' Jon - " Gareth Pashley " <gpashley <vegan-network > Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:19 AM RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > but it's ok to beat other people up?? > > I can understand where you are coming from...but you have to accept that > most people are brought up to eat meat...people generally are not brought up > to rape or be serial adulterers, that is not to say that environment does > not affect people (do you really think that serial adultery is on a par with > rape....wwoooaahhh!!). > Whatever our feelings about meat eating we cannot deny that it is the norm, > across the world, and it is our job to educate and influence people about > the consequences > Not everyone can choose who they love.....should I destroy my 11 year > relationship because my partner still eats dairy/eggs while I gave up about > 18 months ago? maybe you shouldn't answer that!! > > Gareth Pashley > Periodicals, Dorset House Library > Bournemouth University > gpashley > > " Beneath the pavement, the beach " > > > > > kiwi2000 [sMTP:kiwi2000] > > Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:08 PM > > vegan-network > > Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > > Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I say for a change. > > - > > Angie Wright > > vegan-network > > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM > > RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > > > > I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies in the fridge or live > > with someone who ate animals outside the home ,without voicing my > > opinion . We would row all the time . It would be like trying to live > > with a rapist or serial adulterer > > > > Angie > > > > > > To to the Digest Mode [ recommended ], send an email to: vegan-network-digest > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 just don't bruise up my pretty face! - EBbrewpunx vegan-network Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:32 AM Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater oh...admit it, you like it!!! kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote: >Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I say for a change. > - > Angie Wright > vegan-network > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM > RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies in the fridge or live > with someone who ate animals outside the home ,without voicing my > opinion . We would row all the time . It would be like trying to live > with a rapist or serial adulterer > > Angie > > > @qis.net > [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > I for one could never love a meat eater. It seems to me that what > you've done, for purposes of convenience, is to completely deny > that your mate has no concern whatever for the lives and rights of other > sentient beings and no appreciation for > > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 05/06/2002 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 On the subject of marrying meat eaters, i married a carnivore 8 yrs ago. My philosophy on the subject of veganism is not to preach about it or push it on to other people but instead allow others to enquire themselves about it. This has in return led to alot of people i know showing an interest in my vegan diet and more importantly an understanding of why i am vegan. Eight yrs on i am still with my husband who is now a vegan himself, also my mother has become a vegetarian and several of my friends have become vegans and vegetarians. Although i hate the idea of carnivores, i do understand that people need to make their own choices. Pushing a belief onto someone usually results into a negative conclusion but instead allow space for others to question and explore the belief you hold, this usually has a positive effect and you gain respect for what you are. --- kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote: > just don't bruise up my pretty face! > - > EBbrewpunx > vegan-network > Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:32 AM > Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > > oh...admit it, you like it!!! > > > kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote: > > >Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I > say for a change. > > - > > Angie Wright > > vegan-network > > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM > > RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat > eater > > > > > > I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies > in the fridge or live > > with someone who ate animals outside the home > ,without voicing my > > opinion . We would row all the time . It would > be like trying to live > > with a rapist or serial adulterer > > > > Angie > > > > > > @qis.net > > [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > > > > I for one could never love a meat eater. It > seems to me that what > > you've done, for purposes of convenience, is to > completely deny > > that your mate has no concern whatever for the > lives and rights of other > > sentient beings and no appreciation for > > > > > > --- > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - > Release 05/06/2002 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > To to the Digest Mode [ recommended > ], send an email to: > vegan-network-digest > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 I admire your Saintliness and patience. - dark mistress vegan-network Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:32 PM Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater On the subject of marrying meat eaters, i married a carnivore 8 yrs ago. My philosophy on the subject of veganism is not to preach about it or push it on to other people but instead allow others to enquire themselves about it. This has in return led to alot of people i know showing an interest in my vegan diet and more importantly an understanding of why i am vegan. Eight yrs on i am still with my husband who is now a vegan himself, also my mother has become a vegetarian and several of my friends have become vegans and vegetarians. Although i hate the idea of carnivores, i do understand that people need to make their own choices. Pushing a belief onto someone usually results into a negative conclusion but instead allow space for others to question and explore the belief you hold, this usually has a positive effect and you gain respect for what you are. --- kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote: > just don't bruise up my pretty face! > - > EBbrewpunx > vegan-network > Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:32 AM > Re: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > > oh...admit it, you like it!!! > > > kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote: > > >Thanks! It's nice not to get beaten up for what I > say for a change. > > - > > Angie Wright > > vegan-network > > Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:02 PM > > RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat > eater > > > > > > I'm with you Brad . I couldn't have dead bodies > in the fridge or live > > with someone who ate animals outside the home > ,without voicing my > > opinion . We would row all the time . It would > be like trying to live > > with a rapist or serial adulterer > > > > Angie > > > > > > @qis.net > > [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater > > > > > > I for one could never love a meat eater. It > seems to me that what > > you've done, for purposes of convenience, is to > completely deny > > that your mate has no concern whatever for the > lives and rights of other > > sentient beings and no appreciation for > > > > > > --- > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - > Release 05/06/2002 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > To to the Digest Mode [ recommended > ], send an email to: > vegan-network-digest > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 I could not live with a serial adulterer or a rapist . I did not say whether they were on a par or not . Surely only the victim will really know . However Rape may occur only once and by a stranger perhaps . Serial adultery can go on for years and years by a persons loved one .. Some might say that is worse . I don't know, neither has happened to me .but imo I would find both horrendous I said what I could /or could not do . I've been vegan for 35 years . Every one around me is vegan . Kids/ parents and close friends . Animal eaters are not generally people I know that well . I merely work with them /meet them at the shops etc I agree we need to influence people . No doubt we all do that on a daily basis . Perhaps I have greater control over my emotions . I fall in love with my head first . . But to be honest I don't think I have ever been truely in love because I have always been able to choose. I became vegan at 18yrs before any serious relationships.( wanted to from age 7yrs ) I only stayed with those who could also change Those who couldn't see animal killing as wrong would regard me as too far removed from the norm . And for me ,they were too far removed from my viewpoint. I never said what you should do about your relationship . I wouldn't be so presumptious.. No doubt with encouragement she will get there too . 18 months is still early days. Just keep reminding her of the reasons for you giving up hen' eggs and cow milk Good luck Gareth Pashley [gpashley] 10 July 2002 14:20 'vegan-network ' RE: [100% veg*n ] I married a meat eater but it's ok to beat other people up?? I can understand where you are coming from...but you have to accept that most people are brought up to eat meat...people generally are not brought up to rape or be serial adulterers, that is not to say that environment does not affect people (do you really think that serial adultery is on a par with rape....wwoooaahhh!!). Whatever our feelings about meat eating we cannot deny that it is the norm, across the world, and it is our job to educate and influence people about the consequences Not everyone can choose who they love.....should I destroy my 11 year relationship because my partner still eats dairy/eggs while I gave up about 18 months ago? maybe you shouldn't answer that!! Gareth Pashley Periodicals, Dorset House Library Bournemouth University gpashley " Beneath the pavement, the beach " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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